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RE: hypnosis - 2/13/2006 1:48:00 PM   
talltxsub


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RE: hypnosis - 2/13/2006 2:12:23 PM   
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RE: hypnosis - 2/14/2006 8:58:28 AM   
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Status: offline 		I used to have a hypno-master. Unfortunately, he moved away, and I haven't found another. He would hypnotize me and I would be his willing servant. Actually, I was a willing servant before, but this did seem to make me more relaxed, and eager.

I was kept naked, except for a collar, and haddo housework for him. Of course, I was his sex slave too. It never got too wild, but once he had me blow him infront of his str8 roommate. The roomate got hard, but didn't accept my master's offer of use of my mouth. But I would have done him if my master wanted me to. It made me feel like an object to be used. Which I guess was the point.

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RE: hypnosis - 2/14/2006 9:58:43 AM   
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Status: offline 		sounds like it can expand the sluttiness for those of us who already have some of it.

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RE: hypnosis - 2/16/2006 1:46:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		OH Boy did you just open a door!!!

Recently, my DOM was listening to me talk in my sleep. HE decided to try to implant something in my brain. HE tried to see if it would work.

Now, I cannot have any orgasms unless he is there to give them and I cannot have them unless he orders me to have them.

HE gave me 27 in one sitting!!!

I never thought I would ever be hypnotised, but he did it through the power of suggestion. I can't even use my vibrator by myself anymore.

Now, all he has to do is command me anytime and anywhere, and I have orgasms.

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RE: hypnosis - 2/16/2006 2:02:27 PM   
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RE: hypnosis - 2/17/2006 10:06:12 AM   
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RE: hypnosis - 2/18/2006 8:55:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		Somehow...reading the posts here on hypnosis, and the "benefits" it bestows on slaves...opening them up to do things they might not rather do...or would like to do but via hypnosis can "pin the blame" I believe someone wrote, "on another" seems to contradict the entire meaning of being slave.
A slave, a consensual slave, does what he/she does because that is what is in their heart..a willingness to turn over complete control of their being to someone that they trust and want only to serve and maybe even love. The same sort of logic would suggest that taking a nip of bourbon or scotch might also be a good idea.. to sorta loosen up, or maybe smoke a little pot or do a little blow? Really, what is the difference?

Anyway, if that is what makes people happy..that is truly all that matters... but just expressing my own personal views.

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RE: hypnosis - 2/18/2006 9:48:42 PM   
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Somehow...reading the posts here on hypnosis, and the "benefits" it bestows on slaves...opening them up to do things they might not rather do...or would like to do but via hypnosis can "pin the blame" I believe someone wrote, "on another" seems to contradict the entire meaning of being slave.


Hypnosis opens another avenue of control, one that goes beyond the capability of the conscious mind. If a sub wanted to obey something that is "consciously" not possible or would otherwise take a lot of training, particularly trigger-based reaction like orgasm-on-command, hypnosis allow the sub to offer that level of control to their Dom/me. (I have twice heard of orgasm-on-command working without hypnosis, but it's extremely rare, and the training would take a long time.)

Opening up a sub to do something they would not do, or would not choose to, is an even deeper form of control, and may technically be considered non-consentual. Especially if the sub wasn't expecting it, or it changes something from a hard limit to a soft one. But that level of control must be used extremely responsibly, else permanent damage can result.

Personally, I believe the "pin the blame on another" concept is more of a stage hypnosis excuse. It doesn't really apply to a sub who wants to obey.

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RE: hypnosis - 2/18/2006 11:14:47 PM   
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Hypnosis is available on one of My niteflirt lines. It does work, it does lower inhibitions, and you cannot force someone to do something they would not do in a completely conscious state. There is a lot of misinformation regarding hypnosis. It is a good tool, and it does enhance an experience.

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RE: hypnosis - 2/19/2006 6:10:39 AM   
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Status: offline 		To qualify my comments what I will state is that I am a trained and certified hypnotherapist as well as being a psychologist and therapist/counsellor. I understand the use if hypnosis within the scene however I just don't agree with it. If you take the example of using hypnosis to extend a submissive's pain threshold, I prefer to use a longer and slower training method instead of a fast fix method. I reserve the use of hupnosis for those who need it to help them in their daily lives. I do have experience in using hypnosis in combination with drugs to break down the psyche for interrogation purposes (In reality and not play time) and thus am aware of the ease in which some one can be reduced to something less than human.

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RE: hypnosis - 2/19/2006 9:36:36 AM   
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Status: offline 		I would like to second IronBear's statement, and remind all that hypnosis is not something to be taken lightly. When I hypnotize, on the phone, I am able to make an experience much more real for a caller. IRW and phone, I am very careful, and draw some pretty specific lines. I also do not leave any unsafe post-hypnotic suggestions. And I have never used hypnosis to do something along the lines of "increased pain sensation".
This is not something to be casually played with. Know who you are dealing with if you decide to give this a try.

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RE: hypnosis - 2/19/2006 2:22:40 PM   
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I would like to second IronBear's statement, and remind all that hypnosis is not something to be taken lightly.


Thank you. As i read through this thread, i was amazed how flippant this subject was being taken.

ORIGINAL: IronBear
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I understand the use if hypnosis within the scene however I just don't agree with it. If you take the example of using hypnosis to extend a submissive's pain threshold, I prefer to use a longer and slower training method instead of a fast fix method.


I agree. This would seem to be a disservice to anyone. It's not how quickly you can get from point A to B but rather the growth and experiences that occur between A and B.

ORIGINAL: submitchell
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I used to have a hypno-master. Unfortunately, he moved away, and I haven't found another. He would hypnotize me and I would be his willing servant. Actually, I was a willing servant before, but this did seem to make me more relaxed, and eager..


If being more relaxed, eager or to lessen your inhabitions, i would recomend focusing on your own mind (self-hypnosis) before allowing someone else to. Brain wave generator.



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RE: hypnosis - 2/19/2006 9:29:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm not sure everyone was being flippant. There do seem to be those two threads in the concept: The "stage" hypnosis for simple entertainment, which is no less real to the one experiencing it, and the much more private type sought for the purpose of deepening an erotic or fetish experience (or both).

It can, however, be difficult to find one to experience it with, since the risks are inherent in the exploration.

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RE: hypnosis - 2/20/2006 12:48:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		Ok I'm going to kind of just jump in on this... I know before on BDSM topic forum hypnosis was brought up... I made mention there that I was curious myself.. but don't think I'm prone to being hypnotized.

It's been tried by specialist in theropy for victim to violent crimes. To be able to go back and rehash ..... they couldn't get me relaxed enough. Or I couldn't stop laughing.

So how does one go about knowing if they're prone to this... or how does one know if their submissive/slave is "actually" under hypnosis?

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RE: hypnosis - 2/20/2006 2:07:32 AM   
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Status: offline 		I love the idea of hypnotisim, there is something very apealing about giveing up that much control. it is very hard to do and even harder to find someone u trust to do it with.

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RE: hypnosis - 2/20/2006 10:40:03 AM   
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Status: offline 		It seems to me that the whole point of submitting to hypnosis is the enhance the nature of submission. It is giving someone control in a rather deep way, regardless of whether one has the ability to pull themself out of the trance, because you are opening up in a very vulnerable way.

That, of course, is the very appeal of it.

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RE: hypnosis - 3/4/2006 1:36:55 AM   
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Status: offline 		Kenn: Nice reply to the hypnosis line of thought. I'd just like to add my experiences to the fray. It's true that you cannot "make" a person do something they morally feel is wrong.... however.... you can alter that person's perceptions to make them believe that what they are about to do is OK!

Consider a woman under deep hypnosis who would never have sex with anyone other than her own husband... tell her that the next person to come through the door will be her husband, and then go over, open and close the door and address her as her husband!!!! Don't pooh pooh it, I've done it on a dare several times (I did make sure that the husband was OK with it or simply didn't finish the deed, only go so far as to show that it would work)

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RE: hypnosis - 3/4/2006 6:09:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		This sums up hypnosis just fine for me. It concurs with what I've been thinking all along.

http://www.sho.com/site/ptbs/topics.do?topic=hyp

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RE: hypnosis - 3/4/2006 1:00:15 PM   
IronBear


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ORIGINAL: FangsNfeet

This sums up hypnosis just fine for me. It concurs with what I've been thinking all along.

http://www.sho.com/site/ptbs/topics.do?topic=hyp


There is only one problem here Fangs, The site you linked to has the following message:

quote:

sorry

We at Showtime Online express our apologies; however, these pages are intended for access only from within the United States.


Perhaps you may be kind enough to post the guts of what you were refering to????

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