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RE: Intimacy and D/s - 12/17/2008 2:32:33 PM   
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I don't think intimacy is an emotion, fragile or otherwise .......but yes, we have a deeply intimate relationship.

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I agree. I think our emotions (specifically those related to love/bonding/caring/ect) feed into intimacy and allow it to be created and then exist between two or more people, but I wouldn't call intimacy itself an emotion. I suppose that's a mere technicality though, ehh?


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RE: Intimacy and D/s - 12/17/2008 2:34:55 PM   
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I don't think intimacy is an emotion, fragile or otherwise .......but yes, we have a deeply intimate relationship.

agirl



agirl,

Well then how would you describe it? I am always open to counter thoughts.

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RE: Intimacy and D/s - 12/17/2008 2:59:07 PM   
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ORIGINAL: agirl

I don't think intimacy is an emotion, fragile or otherwise .......but yes, we have a deeply intimate relationship.

agirl



agirl,

Well then how would you describe it? I am always open to counter thoughts.

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I think it describes a relationship or situation..ie having a close connection (OED..close familiarity or friendship...). It isn't an *emotion* in and of itself. People IN intimate relationships do tend to share an emotional bond, though.

I don't see it as anything fragile, I have to admit. To achieve it there has to be a fair amount of robustness.

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RE: Intimacy and D/s - 12/17/2008 3:08:34 PM   
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That fragile emotion that allows you to really revel in what you have in the relationship; the sharing without a concern your most private thoughts.

Is it needed in your view?



It is needed and wanted for me.    IMO, both people in the relationship have to want it and need it for it to be there in the relationship.   Both have to feel it.   But it certainly is not needed for everyone nor for every relationship to be satisfying or fulfilling.  

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RE: Intimacy and D/s - 12/17/2008 3:51:44 PM   
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No, I don't have it at present, but I long for it.
Now, it depends one one's needs. As for me, so long there's no emotional bond present, we can't talk about intimacy.

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RE: Intimacy and D/s - 12/17/2008 3:56:49 PM   
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I don't need it.  But I have it.

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RE: Intimacy and D/s - 12/17/2008 4:01:48 PM   
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The deepest...most intimate realtionship/s I ever experienced were those that involved...D/s...M/s dynamics...
 
I was first of all forced to look at myself...the good...bad...and ugly...
 
Then and only then was I able to give all of myself to...someone...
 
Ya...

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RE: Intimacy and D/s - 12/17/2008 4:19:05 PM   
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Intimacy, for me, is a must.  I don't think it's an emotion.  I think it's the way that we expose and share ourselves with our partners.



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RE: Intimacy and D/s - 12/17/2008 4:34:02 PM   
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Intimacy, i want it, need it, and will not live without it in my most intimate relationship.

quote: the sharing without a concern your most private thoughts.

While intimacy is found on many levels, this one is the most desired.  To be able to say what i feel, think, want, or need, knowing it will be heard in love; to know that even if my words are incorrect, it would be understood there is never any harm or meanness meant, would be bliss.

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RE: Intimacy and D/s - 12/17/2008 5:10:54 PM   
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There is intimacy in my relationship.
A deepness share between the both of us, that at times puts us in awe. Breaking past those barriers that have created our own personal prison, which cloaked our pain, as we let in more intimate experiences occur.

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RE: Intimacy and D/s - 12/17/2008 5:12:11 PM   
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I have some relationships that are not intimate, or only barely so, and others that are very.  The relationship with my ex had lots osf sex but little intimacy, the relationship with Sir is more intimate and less sexual.  I have platonic, intimate relationships, with varying degrees of intimacy.

I don't need it in a relationship between me and another person, but were it to be a "partner" type relationship (jeepers that word/phrase took a long time to find) then I need to feel comfortable, and that comfort indicates a degree of intimacy.  (Which does not equate to a need for sex.)

I may not be making sense, it's late.

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RE: Intimacy and D/s - 12/17/2008 5:47:31 PM   
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I will never again involve myself in a relationship that lacks that level of intimacy.  Having now experienced it, I could never go back to that. 

Amen to that.  My sentiments - and Master's - as well.  Having had such amazing intimacy with each other, I'd feel deprived without it.  I wouldn't settle for less.............luci

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RE: Intimacy and D/s - 12/17/2008 6:06:35 PM   
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My relationship is based on emotional transparency, which means true intimacy is our primary concern. Not just me allowing him in, but him allowing me in. I had to have it go both ways. Unless his risk was as great as mine, and his payoff just as large, I could not trust him with my authentic self.

I know there are relationships out there based on solely external things, obedience without any knowledge of how the sub feels, but I couldn't have such a one. I'm in this to be fully known and fully loved.

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RE: Intimacy and D/s - 12/17/2008 6:13:45 PM   
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All of my bdsm relationships except for this last one have had no intimacy.  They all sucked in comparison to the one that has it.  I have been ruined...

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RE: Intimacy and D/s - 12/17/2008 6:40:18 PM   
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I need intimacy above and beyond absolutely anything else in a relationship. Without it I just can't survive.

Imo, it's vital for a healthy relationship.

Unfortunately though time and again and more times than not my experience has been that many run to bdsm and/or d/s to escape intimacy. Many are afraid of it and use this as an excuse to not have to be intimate with anyone. Like I said it's been my experience and one that has had me walk away from it all more times than I can remember.


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RE: Intimacy and D/s - 12/17/2008 7:30:40 PM   
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Since D/S serves as a gateway to close intimacy between me and a girl, if it wasn't present in my relationship, then I would be doing something very wrong.

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RE: Intimacy and D/s - 12/17/2008 7:37:17 PM   
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Do you have it in your relationship? Is it needed in your view?



Yes..  Is it needed?  Well it depends on the type of relationship I want.  To have a deeply loving and trusting relationship.. intimacy would be a must.  But intimacy is not need for me to have power dynamics and/or Erotic play with another person.  But it will not be the path towards a deeply loving and trusting relationship for me.... developing intimacy is that path.

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RE: Intimacy and D/s - 12/17/2008 10:20:29 PM   
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.Do you have it in your relationship? Is it needed in your view?

CP


Jumping in here without reading any of the replies. 

I have to say that in the relationship I want intimacy.  I can play with people without intimacy.  But even as a Dom I like that intimacy that sends the sparks between us.  The moments of intimacy are often what bring people closer.




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RE: Intimacy and D/s - 12/17/2008 10:34:17 PM   
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We do not have a D/s relationship and never will. But yes it's there,  and  intimacy is a requirement in all my relationships.
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ORIGINAL: CelticPrince

It is of course established that the D/s path abounds with the power and erotic factors; but have you ever taken the time to ponder if there is real intimacy involved in the relationship? A relationship can indeed be satisfying to most if the power and eroticism is present but how about intimacy?  That fragile emotion that allows you to really revel in what you have in the relationship; the sharing without a concern your most private thoughts.

Do you have it in your relationship? Is it needed in your view?

CP

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RE: Intimacy and D/s - 12/17/2008 11:00:23 PM   
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All of my bdsm relationships except for this last one have had no intimacy.  They all sucked in comparison to the one that has it.  I have been ruined...


Aileen, I said the same thing, almost verbatim, to a friend just a few days ago!

Before I met my Lord I had a couple of failed attempts at D/s relationships.  Admittedly, I was a true novice, and I see now that D/s play was introduced too early (at least for me), and those relationships ended rather quickly because I felt like I was playing a role.  I was always left feeling unfulfilled and empty.

For me, the intimacy is an absolute must.

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