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ORIGINAL: trealeon

Oh you know, I think I misunderstood the original post. I was thinking it was about public play as in "in the everyday world public" not at like dungeons or sex clubs etc. I've never been to one of those.

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ORIGINAL: pompeii

I'm amazed so many "play in public". I play almost exclusively, in private. What on earth could public play have that private play doesn't (that is erotic)?
Is it that the people watching "makes" it more erotic?
If so, that's just not for me as the whole erotic part is between me and the sub.
I guess if the public eyes make HER feel sexier, then it might be ok. I guess.

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ORIGINAL: mistoferin

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ORIGINAL: trealeon

Oh you know, I think I misunderstood the original post. I was thinking it was about public play as in "in the everyday world public" not at like dungeons or sex clubs etc. I've never been to one of those.

Yes, you misunderstood. But now I have to ask...as we were all talking about clubs and dungeons....and you said that you play harder in public than you do at home...may I ask what you meant and WHERE you meant?

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ORIGINAL: lusciouslips19

Well, like minded people. A safe place thats monitored. Being able to find out someones reputation before you play with them, being able to watch and learn from other people, the great workshops the dungeons have to learn more skills and safety AND all the eqiupment you don't have at home!!!

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ORIGINAL: mistoferin

Um, well...okay. Definitely not for me. I do hope though that you are prepared to deal with the consequences if you ever do get caught.

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ORIGINAL: trealeon


Um... well... everywhere...

My job, her school, the mall, the movies, parks, stores, restaurants, etc. If there is a chance of getting caught... then that's a good place to play.

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ORIGINAL: YourhandMyAss

Personally I think doing sexual stuff at work is really irresponsible and I wonder if it would have been worth it, if you get caught and lost your job Or worse yet got thrown into jail and labled as a sex offender,*  which could happen if you get caught doing sex stuff in parks or where minors are present*  on top of being fired, and then had that on your record next time you looked for a job as well as having a criminal record.

Having a criminal record  expesially one as a sex offender will bar you for life from certain types of jobs.

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ORIGINAL: trealeon

Well as I said... twice actually... it's not for everyone, and our level of play changes based on where we are.

Also in my state, anal sex is illegal... so I'm screwed legally no matter what :).

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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

My understanding is that the legal issue tends to not be *what* you are doing but what you doing where other, nonconsenting and not willing people can be exposed to it. For example: While the cashier can't see what your girl is doing, those who are shorter than her and tend to be looking up can see very clearly and that means big trouble for you.

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ORIGINAL: trealeon

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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

My understanding is that the legal issue tends to not be *what* you are doing but what you doing where other, nonconsenting and not willing people can be exposed to it. For example: While the cashier can't see what your girl is doing, those who are shorter than her and tend to be looking up can see very clearly and that means big trouble for you.

Yes, everything you said is true... except that the comment I made about my state, VA... it is illegal to have anal sex, consensually or non-consensually, public or private. So by legal logic, I break the law quite frequently in the privacy of my own home. That was all I was saying... and I was saying it to be funny... not to make a point.

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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub
My understanding is that the legal issue tends to not be *what* you are doing but what you doing where other, nonconsenting and not willing people can be exposed to it. For example: While the cashier can't see what your girl is doing, those who are shorter than her and tend to be looking up can see very clearly and that means big trouble for you.

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ORIGINAL: mistoferin

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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub
My understanding is that the legal issue tends to not be *what* you are doing but what you doing where other, nonconsenting and not willing people can be exposed to it. For example: While the cashier can't see what your girl is doing, those who are shorter than her and tend to be looking up can see very clearly and that means big trouble for you.

LOL....not to mention that the thought of some chick standing at the food counter of a restaurant groping her genitalia is just beyond gross. If I "happened" to see something like that happening somewhere I would hope that they were REALLY into humiliation play...because I would make REALLY sure they were thoroughly humiliated.

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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub
You've missed my point.

The risks and punishment in having anal sex in your home or among those who have consented to watch are considerably different than what you will face for having exposed unwilling people of varying ages to sexual acts. One is something you are unlikely to be punished for, the other (I think) you should be. Consent, consent, consent. I don't want to see your girl wanking while I'm eating out with my parents and I'm far from a prude. I particularly don't want to see it in a place where I'm likely to take a child who will get a really great view from their height.

Edited to add because I know I'm going to get: Yup, I'm being judgemental. Yes, I've done stuff like you've described. It was fun, I get the thrill. I was young and realize that I was disrespectful to other people's desire to not see or be part of my sexual life. If my thrill is them being there, then I'm involving them without their consent. To me, this will always be out of line.

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ORIGINAL: trealeon

Actually I wasn't going to say you're being judgmental. I was going to say, it's not really relevant because it wasn't what the original poster was asking. I answered the wrong question to begin with.

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Yes we disagree, but it was bound to happen sooner or later that I disagreed with someone, better it happen now while I'm still young.

(See how I use humor to quietly diffuse and end this discussion... I tried before with the anal joke but that didn't work, hopefully it will this time.)

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ORIGINAL: mistoferin

What Aquatic and I are trying to say (I think) is that consent is a very big part of what most people here do, and if you are involving people non-consentually in your kink that is not something that is very often viewed positively and is more likely to be viewed negatively. Consent...it is what seperates us from criminals and sociopaths.

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ORIGINAL: mistoferin

What Aquatic and I are trying to say (I think) is that consent is a very big part of what most people here do, and if you are involving people non-consentually in your kink that is not something that is very often viewed positively and is more likely to be viewed negatively. Consent...it is what seperates us from criminals and sociopaths.

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ORIGINAL: trealeon

Well now, I have never actually heard of these types of "clubs" for group play. Or I may have heard of them but not really known what they were or thought they didn't really exist.

What are they actually like for those who have participated. I have heard people talk about dungeons, but that to me has a different connotation (sparks the idea of things I'm not interested in... heavy bondage, cages, etc.) But this sounds like something different that I may be intersted in?

Info?