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RE: our very own charlotte - 12/24/2008 7:35:36 AM

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I'm not bashing anyone, especially not Charlotte or Stephan.

I think she is a beautiful, beautiful young woman. In my naughty bits, I feel her shoots with Mark Davis and the one on The Story of O were hot, hot, hot.

However, that part of me that feels all nurturing and motherly would share the concerns about any young woman who gets involved in porn. It's not being judgmental, it's just concern.

But sweet Charlotte isn't my concern, so I'll just be jealous of her getting naughty with that hot Mark Davis!

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RE: our very own charlotte - 12/24/2008 7:41:53 AM

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Please somone take MORE photos of the girl.....MARVELOUS!...
What a tasefully done set of pictures and an absolutely lovely young lady!!!!
Bull, if they all showed up at your porn shoots looking like Charlotte, I'd come over just to watch!....

Buy the video.

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RE: our very own charlotte - 12/24/2008 7:52:40 AM

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Why am I seeing such a correlation to the extremists who bomb abortion clinics because abortion is morally wrong in their view?

Really? How so? Explain this please?

You seriously don't see it?

If I don't believe in abortion, I'm going to take things into my own hands, break the law, possibly kill people, and bomb the clinic.

If I don't like my daughter doing a porn shoot, I'm going to take things into my own hands, break the law, possibly kill people, and bomb the studio.

That's not even going into the fact that obviously you did a poor job of raising your daughter, if she has gone so far from the morals you instilled in her. Perhaps holding up a mirror would be better than holding up a torch.

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RE: our very own charlotte - 12/24/2008 8:11:24 AM

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RE: our very own charlotte - 12/24/2008 8:13:16 AM

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You're a liar if you say you are.

You presume to much

Exactly!!

I would actually LOVE to see one of my sisters used like that!

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RE: our very own charlotte - 12/24/2008 8:39:28 AM

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The only thing I know of charlotte is from what she had posted here on the boards and the same applies to Stephann, yet I still give them the benefit of the doubt regarding her the decision to do this photo shoot. I believe that they thoroughly discussed all the repercussions, actual and perceived, before proceeding. What seems to be forgotten in allof this is both people are mature adults and capable of making choices in their own lives. It is damn sad when outsiders make thinly veiled critism disguised as opinions.
Frankly I greatly admire charlotte for having the desire and the courage to follow a desire to model in this style of format. Yes she is a beautiful woman, yet she is also an adult and able to make decisions in an adult manner. Frankly maybe people should actually ask her personally if she felt used, exploited, degraded before assuming that her photo shoot was exploitation.

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RE: our very own charlotte - 12/24/2008 8:40:50 AM

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Charlotte isn't the only CM semi-regular who has done the Kink.com 'Training of O' movie shoot. I won't 'out' them but in fact both of them and their Masters visited with us when one did her last shoot. They used our place to shoot a 'documentary' for Showtime; which, if it ever gets picked up and airs, you'll see a few other CM 'regulars', as 'extras'. beth was wondering around sometimes even dressed in her, under contraction at the time, 'Queen Bee' Halloween custom. Anyway, I'll tell you one thing, talking with them, it's an exhausting experience.

These are good people. I respect them and, take my word for it, they don't need or want their reasons for doing this validated by this forum. My reaction is that they are using their talents and assets to benefit them. It so happens that their activities are a desired commodity and someone is willing to pay them to display them on screen. The movie company does so because many will pay to see it. All is voluntary, or all is exploitation; depending on your rationalization skills and/or personal prejudice.

This 'press' is good marketing for Charlotte and the site. We're very happy for her. We've seen the shoot and it is one of the best 'real' scenes that you can find. Give yourself a holiday gift of a one month subscription and you'll see some very intense and demanding sessions not only involving Charlotte, but all the other people involved. I can only speak for 2 of the woman involved, having met them, but everyone involved with the site appears not to be 'acting'. They appear to be emotionally, as well as physically, involved in what's going on in the scene.

By definition, everyone is exploited. The hypocrisy of saying there is 'good' exploitation and 'bad' exploitation is as ignorant as trying to sort the 'real' submissives from the 'foreployers'.

To charlotte and her Master - HAPPY HOLIDAYS! Hope to see you again soon!

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RE: our very own charlotte - 12/24/2008 8:42:25 AM

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My thoughts are that, Charlotte is an adult and responsible for her own behaviour. She is not a child, she also chose her master. If, in the future, she regrets her participation in the adult industry she holds as much responsibility, if not more, than Stephan does for it.

Would I have my slave to do it? I honestly don't know. I doubt it, but if she expressed a strong desire to do so, and after much discussion I felt her head was in the proper place, I might.

I refuse to pass judgement on the activities of an adult, doing something I neither see as immoral or that is illegal.

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RE: our very own charlotte - 12/24/2008 8:45:35 AM

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In the future, to avoid such problems, perhaps the OP can include explicit guidelines such as "Lie and say something positive even if you don't really mean it" and "Do not post here unless you agree that making this choice is the right one" or "This is for people who only agree with me and will validate my friend."

Absolutely Not! i want opinions and those who think those with opposite opinions from mine or theirs, should stay away is NOT what I want. I have not been one who is disrespectful to those with different opinions. I appreciate and respect those posters and respect their opinion and their right to have it without being made wrong. I'ts their personal opinion and it is welcome.

I will argue my point though...

edited to add: Though when i as the OP started this, it was "check out our beautiful girl and the great job she did".

I had no idea it was going to become a moral discussion. I am way to mindless for that! my posts are usually about nostalgia or supporting others or just for fun!

< Message edited by lusciouslips19 -- 12/24/2008 9:06:27 AM >

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RE: our very own charlotte - 12/24/2008 8:45:40 AM

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I don't find his post to be out of place either. Charlotte's choice and activities were submitted here for comment and scrutiny and that's what they got it. It is a message board for discussion after all.

In the future, to avoid such problems, perhaps the OP can include explicit guidelines such as "Lie and say something positive even if you don't really mean it" and "Do not post here unless you agree that making this choice is the right one" or "This is for people who only agree with me and will validate my friend."

If we tell everyone what to think, then we can avoid such incidents as this where people have opinions we don't like.

::applauds::

I've never been good at the sheeple thing.

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RE: our very own charlotte - 12/24/2008 8:49:06 AM

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ORIGINAL: MadRabbit

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ORIGINAL: xBullx

-fast reply-

Upon further review it appears the slave boy is an attention whore jealous of my friends beautiful slut....

He has managed to make this thread all about his personal and social insecurities....

How pathetic... Let's get on track, his self righteous distraction has gone on long enough.....

Actually, I really don't see that, Bull. Mostly I see a lot of thought policing on your part.

If my friend decided to take part of a German video that involved strangling and killing small cute furry animals like squirrels just for the amusement and entertainment of people, I won't expect everyone who believed making entertainment videos of massacring small animals to be morally apprehensive to give my friend a pat on the back and a good job when I made a post sharing in my friend's new accomplishment.

Apparently, the poster in question found Charlotte's choice to be morally apprehensive and unwise decision and therefore, in keeping with the integrity of those values, was unable to give her a pat on the back. Maybe, like you have suggested, should just "shut up" because his opinion is not the "popular" one here. Or maybe, there is a certain admirable quality to his post since he spoke up about something he didn't agree with.

I don't find his post to be out of place either. Charlotte's choice and activities were submitted here for comment and scrutiny and that's what they got it. It is a message board for discussion after all.

In the future, to avoid such problems, perhaps the OP can include explicit guidelines such as "Lie and say something positive even if you don't really mean it" and "Do not post here unless you agree that making this choice is the right one" or "This is for people who only agree with me and will validate my friend."

If we tell everyone what to think, then we can avoid such incidents as this where people have opinions we don't like.

Bravo, MR - you have articulated what i was feeling. Regardless of the post, there is a "right" of everyone on this site to proclaim their opinion - even if it disagrees with popular thought.

and i understand where he is coming from. Things done in the 20's may come back to haunt you in the 30's, 40's and 50's. Of course, being a libra i also see the other side of the fence - seize the day, live life as if you will die tomorrow, and all that.

if it were me, i would love to do a shoot like that now - in my 50's, but with the body i had in my 20's. Its just a shame that it doesn't work that way.

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anyway, it is fine to feel that it was a mistake for her to do the shoot, and equally fine to feel that it was an adventure - and both viewpoints are correct. but then i don't live in a purely black and white world. There are many shadings in my world.

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RE: our very own charlotte - 12/24/2008 8:51:34 AM

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I always find it funny, when someone makes a post against "thought policing". "Thought policing" is a thought isn't it? To desuade others from doing so is in fact "thought policing"? If not, then isn't it just having an opinion like anyone else? Everyone has the right to post within the guidelines and TOS, but they will also have to defend their opinions as well. That is part and parcel about posting in a public forum, isn't it?

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RE: our very own charlotte - 12/24/2008 9:13:09 AM

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ORIGINAL: OrionTheWolf

I always find it funny, when someone makes a post against "thought policing". "Thought policing" is a thought isn't it? To desuade others from doing so is in fact "thought policing"? If not, then isn't it just having an opinion like anyone else? Everyone has the right to post within the guidelines and TOS, but they will also have to defend their opinions as well. That is part and parcel about posting in a public forum, isn't it?

Fair enough.

If you can point to me where I exactly discouraged or dissuaded Bull from posting his opinions in my post, I will admit to my being a hypocrite.

But, from where I sit, all I see is me making an opinion and commentary regarding his post and some of the attitudes and behaviors in this thread and why I disagree with them.

Bull is more than welcome to post his opinions and I won't be negating them into "social insecurities" or attempting to silence them by stating they are not welcome or appropriate here. I just simply made a summary of what I perceived as going on.

Those were my intentions when I posted that. Your interpretation might be different.

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RE: our very own charlotte - 12/24/2008 9:18:40 AM

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I don't think it's so much about what people have the "right" to do regarding the posting of their thoughts. It's par for the course that someone (or a few) is/are going to have a different opinion than the majority. Posting a negative opinion about the subject matter is one thing. Insulting and/or accusing someone of being "jealous" "insecure" or an "attention whore" because they hold different beliefs is quite another.

I don't think it's so hard to fathom that some people have a positive view about pornography and some do not. To suggest that someone is jealous,self-righteous, insecure,whathaveyou, because they don't think getting into pornography is a wise or moral endeavor, is quite a stretch. I think if this thread was about pornography in general, and not about the "friend" of some of the posters, no one would be down slaveboy's throat for what he said.

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RE: our very own charlotte - 12/24/2008 9:34:23 AM

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ORIGINAL: marie2

FR:

I don't think it's so much about what people have the "right" to do regarding the posting of their thoughts. It's par for the course that someone (or a few) is/are going to have a different opinion than the majority. Posting a negative opinion about the subject matter is one thing. Insulting and/or accusing someone of being "jealous" "insecure" or an "attention whore" because they hold different beliefs is quite another.

I don't think it's so hard to fathom that some people have a positive view about pornography and some do not. To suggest that someone is jealous,self-righteous, insecure,whathaveyou, because they don't think getting into pornography is a wise or moral endeavor, is quite a stretch. I think if this thread was about pornography in general, and not about the "friend" of some of the posters, no one would be down slaveboy's throat for what he said.

What also has to be considered is the high possibility that many posters who have commented on this topic may not be friends, just acquaintance's through association on the boards. From what I see, this has evolved into a debate of sorts of what is or isn't considered porn according to a person's values.

Probably if slaveboy had worded his comments in a less condemning way, then his opinions would not has come across as being accusative in tone. Granted slaveboy has a right to his opinion just as we all do. The fine line to walk is being able to state an opinion in a manner which is non aggressive or less likely to set off a barrage of arguements. It isn't that difficult to extend kudos and compliments to another without having to lie or compromise one's own moral values.

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RE: our very own charlotte - 12/24/2008 9:57:46 AM

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Written and spoken communication are used for persuasion, whether passively or aggressively. I commented only on the passive persuasion of voicing an opinion being the same as an aggressive one, when both are meant to persuade.

The biggest problem I had with the other post was the part that said if you voiced a differing opinion, then the person voicing the differing opinion was a liar.

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ORIGINAL: MadRabbit

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ORIGINAL: OrionTheWolf

I always find it funny, when someone makes a post against "thought policing". "Thought policing" is a thought isn't it? To desuade others from doing so is in fact "thought policing"? If not, then isn't it just having an opinion like anyone else? Everyone has the right to post within the guidelines and TOS, but they will also have to defend their opinions as well. That is part and parcel about posting in a public forum, isn't it?

Fair enough.

If you can point to me where I exactly discouraged or dissuaded Bull from posting his opinions in my post, I will admit to my being a hypocrite.

But, from where I sit, all I see is me making an opinion and commentary regarding his post and some of the attitudes and behaviors in this thread and why I disagree with them.

Bull is more than welcome to post his opinions and I won't be negating them into "social insecurities" or attempting to silence them by stating they are not welcome or appropriate here. I just simply made a summary of what I perceived as going on.

Those were my intentions when I posted that. Your interpretation might be different.

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RE: our very own charlotte - 12/24/2008 10:27:10 AM

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You are not qualified to say who's a liar and who's not. We do not all have t he same values as you do. I'd certainly be OK with someone in my family making porn, and appearing in porn. I'd be like hell hook me up with some of the porn studs please.

Hell I would make porn if I was offered good money too. Plenty of young women go on to have great lives and carers after doing porn, hell look at the hug heffner girls, or playboy bunny girls.

As to you'd never let your daughter do it if you had one, When she's 18 you loose all control of what she does, and she'll do it if she wants, and if you REALLY want to pu sh the issue she could disown you as her father and not speak to you any more because of your nagging.

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ORIGINAL: slaveboyforyou

I have the "right" to give my opinion. I wasn't berating, belittling, and certainly not harrassing anyone. I just think it's not a smart idea to leave a permanent record of your sexual escapades for public consumption. As I said, I wouldn't stand for that if I had a daughter. I wouldn't be proud of any close associate of mine doing that (female or male). I think it's a bad choice for a decent life. I'm sorry you don't understand, but I guess you'd be okay with your wife, sister, mother, take your pick doing that. You're a liar if you say you are.

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RE: our very own charlotte - 12/24/2008 10:38:42 AM

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ORIGINAL: OrionTheWolf

The biggest problem I had with the other post was the part that said if you voiced a differing opinion, then the person voicing the differing opinion was a liar.

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I agree with you. I don't disagree with the substance of the post, but the style and presentation of the writer....needs a little work.

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RE: our very own charlotte - 12/24/2008 11:12:48 AM

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Ok, some pics of a girl in a cage getting drilled and reamed. Cute face, nice ass, right-sized tits, but otherwise very boring. What exactly is the big deal here?

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RE: our very own charlotte - 12/24/2008 11:23:26 AM

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ORIGINAL: celticlord2112

FR

Ok, some pics of a girl in a cage getting drilled and reamed. Cute face, nice ass, right-sized tits, but otherwise very boring. What exactly is the big deal here?

Its pictures from the video. She did a great shoot.

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