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RE: our very own charlotte - 12/24/2008 11:26:38 AM   
popeye1250


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Status: offline 		I don't know what the "big deal" is either, CL.
Ha, Ha, seems that some of the "Liberals" in here are becomming conservative. lol
I though it was tastefully done and very erotic!
*Good job Charlotte!*

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RE: our very own charlotte - 12/24/2008 11:26:57 AM   
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She did a great shoot.

I'll take your word for it.  Personally, porn is rather blase (why watch when you can be doing?).


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RE: our very own charlotte - 12/24/2008 11:30:04 AM   
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I though it was tastefully done and very erotic!

Well, the "taste" bit is up to the individual, but it does seem like she was "well done."

Still, I don't see where it's worth all the fuss.  As I said....."boring".


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RE: our very own charlotte - 12/24/2008 12:25:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		Porn is just about the most unerotic thing I can think of, but since we're talking about this particular shoot, I don't think it's tastefully done, nor do I find it sexually arousing to see a pretty young woman being debased for the sake of cash: but that's my aesthetic values that I express here, not a moral judgment on porn. That charlotte is a name I know from these message boards, and that the decisions that led her to act in these kinds of movies were made public to all of us, makes the whole thing appear even more lurid... to me.

Nobody should have to disguise their opinion in order to placate the Holders of the Standards of True BDSM (Gor subdivision), nor should anyone be insulted for stating their point of view  .

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RE: our very own charlotte - 12/24/2008 12:31:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yes, but in your concern you're not calling every one who feels differently liars, like slave boy was, when he said any one who states they'd be ok with their mother or daughter or wife being in porn are liars. Nor are you making wide and sweeping generalizations about it either.




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ORIGINAL: BRNaughtyAngel

I'm not bashing anyone, especially not Charlotte or Stephan. 

I think she is a beautiful, beautiful young woman.  In my naughty bits, I feel her shoots with Mark Davis and the one on The Story of O were hot, hot, hot.

However, that part of me that feels all nurturing and motherly would share the concerns about any young woman who gets involved in porn.  It's not being judgmental, it's just concern.  

But sweet Charlotte isn't my concern, so I'll just be jealous of her getting naughty with that hot Mark Davis!



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RE: our very own charlotte - 12/24/2008 12:31:55 PM   
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ORIGINAL: slaveboyforyou

I'm sorry to be a naysayer.  But, why don't you just tattoo, "I do not want choices in life."  Honestly, that's the truth.  I'm sorry, but I know how hard life is.  I came to the realization long ago that I would never run for national office.  No fucking biggie; I like my life.  But I am still not on video, and I am know I will never be a Congressman or President. 

So I will not celebrate with you.  Call me a prude, but I think it's a bad choice.  Sorry, I didn't mean to rain on your parade. 


i....am 45.  there are photos of me in various stages of undress floating about the internet, and on different gentlemen's hard-drives.  TheEngineer, who loves, adores, and MARRIED me (wheeeeeeeeeee!!!!!) on monday, has political aspirations.

he knows this.  he doesnt give two rats asses about it.  he's a libetarian and thinks what i chose to do is my own business and no one else's....and will gladly tell anyone this.  on camera even.

yes, its a risk.  but i'm not ashamed of any photos taken of me then nor now.

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RE: our very own charlotte - 12/24/2008 12:38:50 PM   
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ORIGINAL: kittinSol
Nobody should have to disguise their opinion in order to placate the Holders of the Standards of True BDSM (Gor subdivision), nor should anyone be insulted for stating their point of view  .

        Amen to that, sister!  I've agreed with everything you've said in this thread.  slaveboyforyou is someone who tends to say exactly what is on his mind.  I don't always agree with him but I like that he often has a point of view no one else has brought forth.  That's very, very upsetting to some of the usual suspects..............luci

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RE: our very own charlotte - 12/24/2008 12:42:46 PM   
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ORIGINAL: pixidustpet

i....am 45.  there are photos of me in various stages of undress floating about the internet, and on different gentlemen's hard-drives.  TheEngineer, who loves, adores, and MARRIED me (wheeeeeeeeeee!!!!!) on monday, has political aspirations.

he knows this.  he doesnt give two rats asses about it.  he's a libetarian and thinks what i chose to do is my own business and no one else's....and will gladly tell anyone this.  on camera even.


Well, since he's a libertarian, he won't have to worry.  They never get very far.  Sadly, that is.  I am Libertarian as well.  He may not "give two rats asses about it," as you say, but you well know his opponents would and would use your choices to drag him through the mud for it.  That's the usual business of politics right or wrong.  If he was serious competition, they would dredge up whatever they could.  It's happened thousands of times, right or wrong......................luci

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RE: our very own charlotte - 12/24/2008 12:49:59 PM   
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ORIGINAL: slaveluci

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ORIGINAL: pixidustpet

i....am 45.  there are photos of me in various stages of undress floating about the internet, and on different gentlemen's hard-drives.  TheEngineer, who loves, adores, and MARRIED me (wheeeeeeeeeee!!!!!) on monday, has political aspirations.

he knows this.  he doesnt give two rats asses about it.  he's a libetarian and thinks what i chose to do is my own business and no one else's....and will gladly tell anyone this.  on camera even.


Well, since he's a libertarian, he won't have to worry.  They never get very far.  Sadly, that is.  I am Libertarian as well.  He may not "give two rats asses about it," as you say, but you well know his opponents would and would use your choices to drag him through the mud for it.  That's the usual business of politics right or wrong.  If he was serious competition, they would dredge up whatever they could.  It's happened thousands of times, right or wrong......................luci


thank you for the spelling correction, today's been a meltdown kind of day for me and my brain has gone out the window.

he's at local levels....and lost his first election last month. 

my choices *before we met* are something that he's known about all along.  i'm not ashamed of them.  and its not likely that many people would *want* to look at my photos!  childbearing shows, gravity sucks, and time marches on! 

kitten

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RE: our very own charlotte - 12/24/2008 12:59:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		They're movie clips, but if you're not a member you won't see them as movies, just still pictures.

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FR

Ok, some pics of a girl in a cage getting drilled and reamed.  Cute face, nice ass, right-sized tits, but otherwise very boring.  What exactly is the big deal here?


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RE: our very own charlotte - 12/24/2008 1:01:48 PM   
slaveluci


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ORIGINAL: pixidustpet
thank you for the spelling correction, today's been a meltdown kind of day for me and my brain has gone out the window.

Hey, I do understand.  I've spent the day finishing my grocery shopping, baking about 10 dozen cookies of all types, and getting ready to wrap presents.  Plus, I don't think I've ever submitted a post here that hasn't been edited for spelling first.  It never fails that I leave something out...lol
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he's at local levels....and lost his first election last month.   

Oh, sorry to hear that.  It's a tough arena.
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my choices *before we met* are something that he's known about all along.  i'm not ashamed of them.

Sure, I understand and agree that you shouldn't be.  It's just that in politics - when they play dirty - it doesn't seem to matter when things happened or that they weren't anything one was ashamed of.  They get nasty.
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and its not likely that many people would *want* to look at my photos!  childbearing shows, gravity sucks, and time marches on! 

I hear ya, sister..................luci

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RE: our very own charlotte - 12/24/2008 2:00:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		i personally liked the pics.  i don't see how this got turned into a debate about the morality of pornography.  however i must point out- talk of firebombing studios and how no one would want their family involved- such generalizations are false and are usually made to get a response out of people.  while i can accept the fact that not everyone thinks porn is a good thing if one is so inclined and possesses the requisite physical attributes more power to them.  shouldnt we be happy if one finds a job that pays well for something one would do for free?  my Master plays full contact outdoor NFL rules football.  he doesnt get paid.  if he gets hurt our private insurance gets the bill.  he wishes he could get paid... i have very graphic photos on the internet.  i didnt get paid.  i wish i could.   people who dont like it- they can kiss it.  you cant call everyone a liar, because generalizations are almost never true.  and i liked the photos personally, so attagirl!

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RE: our very own charlotte - 12/24/2008 2:21:11 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MadRabbit

Actually, I really don't see that, Bull. Mostly I see a lot of thought policing on your part.



Life seems full of convenience...

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If my friend decided to take part of a German video that involved strangling and killing small cute furry animals like squirrels just for the amusement and entertainment of people, I won't expect everyone who believed making entertainment videos of massacring small animals to be morally apprehensive to give my friend a pat on the back and a good job when I made a post sharing in my friend's new accomplishment.



Yeahhhh, I can sure see the similarity there... Do you help with the clinic protests as well?

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Apparently, the poster in question found Charlotte's choice to be morally apprehensive and unwise decision and therefore, in keeping with the integrity of those values, was unable to give her a pat on the back.



ahhhhhh, a better left unsaid moment then...

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Maybe, like you have suggested, should just "shut up" because his opinion is not the "popular" one here.



First I never said a thing about shutting up. I said move along the dialogue if firebombs and puritan rhetoric was the best he could offer. That was a long ways from shut up. Seems your the one that has an issue with rebuttle or opposed opinion, perhaps you're just in the mood for a high noon gun fight as his stand in.

I'm a long ways from the follow the in crowd kinda fellow so your attempt at stasifaction here just won't fly. If he didn't like his daughter out doing porn all he had to do was start another thread, but he would most likely have got less attention than he did here... But then you know that and so does he and kitten and ..........

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Or maybe, there is a certain admirable quality to his post since he spoke up about something he didn't agree with.



The ole' one man's terrorist is another's freedom fighter.... I'm one of those Gorean types so I'm all for natural selection and letting the will of men prevail. That being said are you sure this angle is a beef you want to take up with me?

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I don't find his post to be out of place either. Charlotte's choice and activities were submitted here for comment and scrutiny and that's what they got it. It is a message board for discussion after all.



As are yours.... I just might invest a bit more time disecting yours...

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In the future, to avoid such problems, perhaps the OP can include explicit guidelines such as "Lie and say something positive even if you don't really mean it" and "Do not post here unless you agree that making this choice is the right one" or "This is for people who only agree with me and will validate my friend."



I suspect those are thoughts to consider.... I don't see them as very sincere on your behalf, you see the sarcasm that is dripping from your verbage leaves your entire text suffering from a lack of credibility.

Unless you might choose to deny me the very right to opinion you seem to be championing for the slave boy.

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If we tell everyone what to think, then we can avoid such incidents as this where people have opinions we don't like.



Opinions are like assholes, everyone seems to be sporting at least one and I do believe excessive disclosure of such is punishable on indecent exposure charges within this rather puritan culture.

I will have to admit though, at times I rather enjoy supressing an annoying opinion or two. But that's just me along with my evil and rather sadistic tendencies... So back to those German Movies about little fuzzy animals....

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RE: our very own charlotte - 12/24/2008 2:40:22 PM   
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Porn is just about the most unerotic thing I can think of, but since we're talking about this particular shoot, I don't think it's tastefully done, nor do I find it sexually arousing to see a pretty young woman being debased for the sake of cash: but that's my aesthetic values that I express here, not a moral judgment on porn. That charlotte is a name I know from these message boards, and that the decisions that led her to act in these kinds of movies were made public to all of us, makes the whole thing appear even more lurid... to me.

Nobody should have to disguise their opinion in order to placate the Holders of the Standards of True BDSM (Gor subdivision), nor should anyone be insulted for stating their point of view  .


Yea, why should a slave get debased for cash when she could get debased for free?

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RE: our very own charlotte - 12/24/2008 2:44:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		You really want to know what it's about, or have you got your earmuffs on, Bull?

It's about sloppy directing, and a lighting director that should be sent back to film school. Unlike others, I wasn't struck by the filmographic quality of this piece of video. It's also about the questionable decision a bloke took to send his chick to the meat market, and how it might affect her in the future. Would she have gone to the meat market had he not told her to? We'll never know, but I knows this for sure: we don't live in a forgiving society, and what happens to someone if they drop out (or are dropped by) the "master/slave" dynamic?

It's NOTHING to do with puritanism: that's just an excuse to try and vaporise those who disagree with the general consensus. Luscious, god bless her, probably never expected for her thread to turn out the way it did, but you know what? It's a good thing it did, because it shows that we can all disagree and remain civil. Right?

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RE: our very own charlotte - 12/24/2008 2:47:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		Interesting discussion.
 
I believe it's her choice when all is said and done and if it leads to whatever later down the line it's not something any of us have to worry about. Maybe she will regret it later when she is older (who knows?), I regret plenty of things but I always would have done them given the choice. If we always only make safe decisions with our future in mind we will end up with just as many regrets for the risks we could have taken but never did. It's not nice to have regrets but you can't avoid them because every decision is a possible regret further down the line and you can't live like that, it's no way to live playing it safe.
 
All you can do is try the things you want to do at the time. Except murder that’s illegal.


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RE: our very own charlotte - 12/24/2008 2:48:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		The negative half of this thread is a pile of horseshit.

Since the majority of society would place what "we" do as WAY WORSE than porn, objecting to this on moral grounds is at best hypocritical and just all around fucked up.

I haven't had the luck to meet either Charlotte and Stephann, but only because of bad luck, they are dear friends of someone I know quite well in real life and they have a better relationship than most of those who post here.  That alone should be enough to eliminate most of the whining and sniveling.

Sadly, it isn't.   I hope this post provides a mirror for the hypocrites to peer into and see themselves.

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RE: our very own charlotte - 12/24/2008 2:49:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		You're right: it's down to choice. Most of the time, we make choices and we keep them personal. When one decides to make a very public decision, rightly or not, they open themselves up to public scrutiny and judgement. It's not always good, but sometimes it leads to... an interesting discussion :-) .

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RE: our very own charlotte - 12/24/2008 2:50:07 PM   
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It's NOTHING to do with puritanism: that's just an excuse to try and vaporise those who disagree with the general consensus. Luscious, god bless her, probably never expected for her thread to turn out the way it did, but you know what? It's a good thing it did, because it shows that we can all disagree and remain civil. Right?


Here, here!

Well actually perhaps civility is maintained cause we don't want to get spanked or be [Awaiting Approval].

But yes, we have all got better at maintaining civility.

No, i didnt expect my thread to turn out this way. But I still enjoy a good debate and love the differing points of view being expressed. makes life more interesting.


By the way, Happy Hannukah you sexy knish!

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RE: our very own charlotte - 12/24/2008 2:52:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		Chanukah sameach, luscious :-) .

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