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RE: Shut the F*&^ up... - 12/24/2008 8:03:46 PM

kiwisub12

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I don't care for swearing. Hopefully any dom in my life is more creative than having to resort to swearing to shock me.
Hearing it from another couple would mildly annoy me because i don't think i should have to listen to it from anyone else, as a spillover from their "conversation".
And i don't consider swearing to be a turn-on in any situation.

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RE: Shut the F*&^ up... - 12/24/2008 9:50:11 PM

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ORIGINAL: ThundersCry

It goes in one ear and out the other...

I`ve heard it most of my adult...life...

However...

Like a few have stated...I hear it out of an adults mouth...directed at an umm...I am going to make it some of my bizz to hang around and observe...or maybe grab the adult by the throat...

My luck...they would be into breath play...

I say old chap, that is a damned good move. Might I suggest that as you grab the throat, your other hand grabs the testicals (glove with spikes wold be a jolly good move too). If you should decide to chock-slam him, you may like to grab the back of his pants to help lifting him and remember to give the bastard a bloody good wedgy too boot. Of course were it a female you grabbed, you could hold her by the throat and bitchslap her to hell and back.

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RE: Shut the F*&^ up... - 12/24/2008 11:10:21 PM

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Umm I haven't seen any one say anything about cussing directed at children, in this thread.

quote:

ORIGINAL: ThundersCry

It goes in one ear and out the other...

I`ve heard it most of my adult...life...

However...

Like a few have stated...I hear it out of an adults mouth...directed at an umm...I am going to make it some of my bizz to hang around and observe...or maybe grab the adult by the throat...

My luck...they would be into breath play...

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RE: Shut the F*&^ up... - 12/25/2008 3:55:31 AM

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I believe that Thunderscry was refering to the situation when and if it was directed thus and not in direct responce to anyone stating that it was. Of course I may well be wrong too..

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RE: Shut the F*&^ up... - 12/25/2008 7:08:46 AM

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I'd be upset by the use of the word fuck, even if it was accompanied by an obviously lustful gesture. He has occasionally said "shut up and kiss me". That only goes over well if he was very relaxed to begin with. If he's been stressed over something, then it comes out with a tone I don't like and don't respond well to.

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RE: Shut the F*&^ up... - 12/25/2008 7:33:12 AM

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ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

for me it would depend entirely n the tone of voice. If it were growled at me in a low, sexy voice, knowing that it indicated a prelude to play, I'd melt.

BUT if it was said in a normal tone, and even HINTED at a dismissal of my words/thoughts/feelings etc... I'd be gone, if not for good, at least for a while.

Greedy summed it up for me...

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RE: Shut the F*&^ up... - 12/25/2008 8:13:19 AM

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I'd be more embarassed that I had inspired that sort of reaction from someone, than upset with them for voicing it. I'd be more likely to be upset with myself, not at them.

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RE: Shut the F*&^ up... - 12/25/2008 9:20:27 AM

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ORIGINAL: CalifChick

In the original referenced post, wasn't it done by text message? (I'm too lazy to go look)

In that context, it would be "game over".

Cali

Text message? People scene via text messages now?

I'm so old...

I can't think of much that is interesting about that idea for me.

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RE: Shut the F*&^ up... - 12/25/2008 10:00:52 AM

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i would tend to agree wth the comments of mm321 and GT. However, for me, a Dom or Domme who needs to use that language and in a load, threatening voice is an indication of a Dom/me who has not or is not in control or does not know how to control. A Dom/me out of control is not appropriate. But i do know that some subs are attracted to violent language. Not my thing.

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RE: Shut the F*&^ up... - 12/25/2008 10:19:58 AM

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I have to agree Context is the key! and really whether it was said out of ANGER. Or playfully... All depends ...

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RE: Shut the F*&^ up... - 12/25/2008 11:53:38 AM

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Well now if we were scening and he said beg me to fuck you ,bitch, slut, or whore, OR he said are you my dirty slutty whore, are you going to beg for my cum, ect ect, I'd totally get into that, Dirty talk, if it's not to cheesy or they don't cross a certain line gets me reving and O'ing nicely.

And of course it revs him up, so even if I am not feeling it at the exact moment I do go along because I want him to O hard too.

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ORIGINAL: kiwisub12

And i don't consider swearing to be a turn-on in any situation.

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RE: Shut the F*&^ up... - 12/25/2008 2:35:49 PM

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ORIGINAL: DomDG

In a recent post it was said that the words implied were used when a sub expressed some concerns to a new potential Dom. I admit that the dom winds up being a domASS in this case.

Many of the respondents said that using those words would be a end to the relationship. So I wonder..

A couple is sitting somewhere, you pick the place. They may have just had dinner or watched a movie or whatever. The sub is talking maybe it's about the weather, the plans for tomorrow, maybe about her period, who knows. The Dom reaches over, grabs a handfull of hair and says, "shut the f#$% up and get over here!"

What's the reaction then?

It wouldnt be the end of the relationship if Master was to say shut the F***k up, but that would mean for me that i am in deep deep trouble. Also, it depends if during a roleplay, then that would make me melt right there

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RE: Shut the F*&^ up... - 12/25/2008 8:17:34 PM

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I've yet to have a relationship where curse words were directed towards me as I tend to stay away from men who I feel would react this way. To have someone tell me to "shut the f up" in public or in private would probably garner a fight or flight response especially as I "usually" know when to shut my mouth. Warning looks are wonderful and tend to work well for me.

If done privately and not during a disagreement, it may be rather exciting.

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RE: Shut the F*&^ up... - 12/25/2008 8:25:06 PM

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This sounds fabulous to me, it could only be better if he pushes my face into his lap and forces me to suck him off "supposedly" against my will!

Yummily,
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RE: Shut the F*&^ up... - 12/25/2008 8:47:40 PM

mc1234

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quote:

ORIGINAL: thetammyjo

Text message? People scene via text messages now?

I'm so old...

I can't think of much that is interesting about that idea for me.

I'm sure some people do scene via text, but the other post was from a submissive who was speaking with a potential dom via text and he told her to 'shut the 'f' up' ...

If said in a sexy, 'I want you now' kinda voice, in private, I'd love it. If said in public or in a dismissive way - it wouldn't work for me at all.

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RE: Shut the F*&^ up... - 12/25/2008 10:26:45 PM

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What I am seeing here is a group of experienced and inexperienced, dominant and submissive people expressing hard limits and acceptable conditions for one expression which is almost certainly the tip of the iceberg of myriad expressions of a similar vein which could be substituted. Not the end of the world but a jolly good exercise for people to revisit some of their limits. Most interesting reading…

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RE: Shut the F*&^ up... - 12/26/2008 7:00:05 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: DomDG

A couple is sitting somewhere, you pick the place. They may have just had dinner or watched a movie or whatever. The sub is talking maybe it's about the weather, the plans for tomorrow, maybe about her period, who knows. The Dom reaches over, grabs a handfull of hair and says, "shut the f#$% up and get over here!"

What's the reaction then?

In response to this scenario, I would probably look at the couple to see if they're getting ready to "throw down" and if so, remove myself from their presence. I've been innocently caught up in a few brawls and will beat a hasty retreat when a situation may lead to violence. Additionally, even if this occurred with a D/s couple, I wouldn't be aware of their dynamic.

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RE: Shut the F*&^ up... - 12/26/2008 8:49:28 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: IronBear

What I am seeing here is a group of experienced and inexperienced, dominant and submissive people expressing hard limits and acceptable conditions for one expression which is almost certainly the tip of the iceberg of myriad expressions of a similar vein which could be substituted. Not the end of the world but a jolly good exercise for people to revisit some of their limits. Most interesting reading…

While I do see your point, IB, this 'one expression' carries a load of meaning behind it when said in a way that is dismissive and angry. I had a dom once tell me that I was a 'worthless piece of shit'. While that may work for some people, that sort of berating, which I think 'shut the F up' falls with, is harmful for me psychologically (takes me to really bad places inside), and hence, that sort of, what I would call humiliation, is a hard limit for me.

It's not really a matter of my saying 'say this, but not that' and lying the groundwork for when he can do so - it's my sharing with him at the start of the relationship what my limits are and explaining why, so he understands; and his acceptance of those limits, of course. It all comes down to his intent, as with many other things in WIITWD.

Just wanted to clarify.

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RE: Shut the F*&^ up... - 12/26/2008 9:05:09 AM

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I think the original thread was started becasue the guy said "shut the fuck up" to her well pre-meeting, and then she met him and he was equally innapropriate then.

For me, I was raised in NYC, and my mother and father both swear like sailors. Words are just stated emotions for them, so fuck meant they were getting frusterated, shit meant something went wrong, dammit meant something either fell or didnt stay where it was supposed to be... it was all pretty predictable and held no more value than them expressing felings verbally in th eshortest amount of words possible.

Now, in context, that scenario would get different reactions from me as well. The way it is stated, if it were in public, the man in question is looking at a lot of cell-phone dialed 911 calls for domestic violence. A hair pull would far more concern me than the words used in a public setting.
In private, if she lets him speak to her that way and it is acceptable in their relationship, that all is well and she realizes she has spoken on too long about herself and bored him. If she is sub and he is dom, then that might not be odd at all.

Language is what you make of it. I can swear from today till tomorrow and Fox couldnt care less. However, were I ever to call him stupid and that would be it for us. I worry less about what is said and more about the motives and assumed impact of the words.

Would the above scanrio from the OP have been more acceptable if he hadnt said "fuck" and had perhaps said "Shut up bitch?", or "Shut your stupid mouth?"

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RE: Shut the F*&^ up... - 12/26/2008 9:23:15 AM

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Greetings..

Under the conditions that you layed out..I'd be shutting the F up, and be paying attention to how Master was beyond that, and take my que's from there. The place has no bearing to me.

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