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RE: disproportionate, much? - 12/29/2008 7:29:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		So the flashpoint between Islam and the Judeo christians, is where it all started, the so called holy lands, and to think Islam started as an offshoot from Christianity, so basically if one goes back far enough, the same initial belief. I wonder, are non Judeo christian/ Islam , just as keen to try to and wage war against each other, or is this their problem only ?

From what I remember of history, and I am searching back a long way here, the mess that is the existing Islamic lands , were lands England, France and Turkey fought over, manipulated and walked away. A lot of the problems of the region can be put at the feet of England, France and Turkey, and now, each of those countries is powerless to sort out the mess.

But the formation of Israel, the eviction of Palestinians from their land to give the WW2 refugees a home, was wrong. Millions died to stop the Nazis in their ambitions of conquest and their pogrom of the Jews, one would think the aggressor vanquished, those that hold the Jewish religion should have gone back to their countries and picked up the pieces, contributed to the rebuilding of the country, if not in funding, but manual graft.  No, it was decided to go and form a new country for these people. So from then on, as Israel has expanded, more land was required, so more Palestinians kicked off their land. So, they fight back, can you blame them ? Rocket attacks on Israel, is an escalation, things in that region have been getting out of hand for too long a time and they have been left to fight it out, with obvious support for each religious community from respective parts of the world, so it can be seen as Israel/ Palestine is the battlefront between Islam and I suppose much of the west.

Can this mess be sorted out, can it, or have things gone too far now ?




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RE: disproportionate, much? - 12/29/2008 7:32:31 PM   
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Israel clearly has "special" friends turning blind eyes to its racist/religious persecution.

I don't see how these "Merchant Bankers" are still in business

Pirate


Why don't you just come right on out of the closet and call them, "heebs."  "Merchant Bankers?"  Are you fucking kidding me? 

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RE: disproportionate, much? - 12/29/2008 7:40:31 PM   
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Israel clearly has "special" friends turning blind eyes to its racist/religious persecution.

I don't see how these "Merchant Bankers" are still in business

Pirate


Why don't you just come right on out of the closet and call them, "heebs."  "Merchant Bankers?"  Are you fucking kidding me? 


Come on slave boy, everyone knows on the High Holy Days we all go down in the basement of the synagogue and roll around in our big piles of money

Actually I saw briefly on the news tonight that Egypt and some of the other moderate Arab nations are quietly supportive of Israel's move against Hamas. 




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RE: disproportionate, much? - 12/29/2008 10:40:59 PM   
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Israel clearly has "special" friends turning blind eyes to its racist/religious persecution.

I don't see how these "Merchant Bankers" are still in business

Pirate


Why don't you just come right on out of the closet and call them, "heebs."  "Merchant Bankers?"  Are you fucking kidding me? 


Ever heard of Cockney rhyming slang ? Do you need this translating ? Your misinformed response is excused due to your dialectic ignorance.

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RE: disproportionate, much? - 12/29/2008 10:54:56 PM   
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Israel clearly has "special" friends turning blind eyes to its racist/religious persecution.

I don't see how these "Merchant Bankers" are still in business

Pirate


Why don't you just come right on out of the closet and call them, "heebs."  "Merchant Bankers?"  Are you fucking kidding me? 


Ever heard of Cockney rhyming slang ? Do you need this translating ? Your misinformed response is excused due to your dialectic ignorance.

Pirate

Uh-huh. It's not incumbent upon SB4U to try and figure out what weird alt-language you are using it's incumbent upon you to communicate clearly.

At any rate, he pegged you.

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RE: disproportionate, much? - 12/29/2008 10:55:18 PM   
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I think that's a fine idea- but what do you do when the rest of the country doesn't want the people from New Jersey either?

Sam


Well, that's the best part of it. We'll send them to Israel!


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RE: disproportionate, much? - 12/29/2008 10:55:22 PM   
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Why don't you just come right on out of the closet and call them, "heebs."  
Are you fucking kidding me? 



Errr ..... perhaps because (unlike many) I am not a racist ????
No , I'm not fucking kidding you
You are of course welcome to rectify your embarassment by either apologising or crawling back into your pit of ignorance ,I have had this term "heebs" translated to me now (unlike you , I did not know what it meant and thought it wise not to comment until I did)
You have an outrageous cheek to suggest that I would call anyone that.

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RE: disproportionate, much? - 12/29/2008 11:01:31 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Hippiekinkster

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ORIGINAL: piratecommander


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Israel clearly has "special" friends turning blind eyes to its racist/religious persecution.

I don't see how these "Merchant Bankers" are still in business

Pirate


Why don't you just come right on out of the closet and call them, "heebs."  "Merchant Bankers?"  Are you fucking kidding me? 


Ever heard of Cockney rhyming slang ? Do you need this translating ? Your misinformed response is excused due to your dialectic ignorance.

Pirate

Uh-huh. It's not incumbent upon SB4U to try and figure out what weird alt-language you are using it's incumbent upon you to communicate clearly.

At any rate, he pegged you.


I happen to know for a fact that Pirate is NOT racist, despite the fact that Cockney rhyming slang doesnt translate HERE. And I have had to translate the phrase 'he pegged you' as well, since that doesnt translate to him. 

Let's chalk this up to differences in phrase interpretation.



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RE: disproportionate, much? - 12/29/2008 11:04:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		FTR:  in Cockney rhyming slang, 'merchant bankers' equals 'wankers'.  Absolutely no connection to any racial stereotyping.

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RE: disproportionate, much? - 12/29/2008 11:15:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'll take your word for it, GT.  Having been to Dachau, and der Haus der Wannsee-Konferenz (where the "Final Solution" was hatched) I have problems with those who take the side of over a billion Moslems over 7 million Israelis.

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RE: disproportionate, much? - 12/29/2008 11:20:48 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Hippiekinkster

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ORIGINAL: piratecommander


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Israel clearly has "special" friends turning blind eyes to its racist/religious persecution.

I don't see how these "Merchant Bankers" are still in business

Pirate


Why don't you just come right on out of the closet and call them, "heebs."  "Merchant Bankers?"  Are you fucking kidding me? 


Ever heard of Cockney rhyming slang ? Do you need this translating ? Your misinformed response is excused due to your dialectic ignorance.

Pirate

Uh-huh. It's not incumbent upon SB4U to try and figure out what weird alt-language you are using it's incumbent upon you to communicate clearly.

At any rate, he pegged you.



Not pegged me ....... completely misjudged me , now since that is the case ....... I wonder why ? (a challenge to the perceptions of anyone "commenting" on WORLD issues surely)
Morbid oversensitivity perhaps ?

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RE: disproportionate, much? - 12/29/2008 11:23:39 PM   
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I'll take your word for it, GT.  Having been to Dachau, and der Haus der Wannsee-Konferenz (where the "Final Solution" was hatched) I have problems with those who take the side of over a billion Moslems over 7 million Israelis.


I hope you are not referring to me

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RE: disproportionate, much? - 12/29/2008 11:24:02 PM   
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RE: disproportionate, much? - 12/29/2008 11:29:08 PM   
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but trust me on this. Pirate is no more racist than I am.

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RE: disproportionate, much? - 12/29/2008 11:33:14 PM   
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Why would you think SlaveBoy is "oversensitive", there, Pirate?


Oversensitive as a "Spanish Inquisitor" if you ask me ......

You on a "Witch Hunt" or what ?

(if so , can everyone join in ? )

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RE: disproportionate, much? - 12/29/2008 11:37:41 PM   
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Why would you think SlaveBoy is "oversensitive", there, Pirate?


Oversensitive as a "Spanish Inquisitor" if you ask me ......

You on a "Witch Hunt" or what ?

(if so , can everyone join in ? )

Pirate
Can you be a little more cryptic?

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RE: disproportionate, much? - 12/29/2008 11:39:10 PM   
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RE: disproportionate, much? - 12/29/2008 11:52:56 PM   
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Ever heard of Cockney rhyming slang ? Do you need this translating ? Your misinformed response is excused due to your dialectic ignorance.

Pirate


I've heard of it, but I'm not from London.  So I'm not familiar with every term in the lingo.  My ignorance of cockney slang comes from the fact that I have no need to learn it.  You are aware that Jews are typically stereotyped as money grubbers and that they control the banking industry?  It's a fairly common accusation lobbed by anti-semites.  So you may understand why I assumed that was what you were inferring.  If you say you're not a racist, I accept that as the truth.  So I will apologize for the misunderstanding. 

Of course, my apology doesn't change the fact that you did call a whole nation of people a derogatory name.  I don't exactly understand why you believe the entirety of Israel to be wankers just because they defend themselves from cowards that hide military facilities in civilian areas, while they lob mortar shells into civillian areas.  You accuse a small country made up of people that have been historically persecuted for thousands of years of racicm juist for defending themselves.  I just don't understand that mentality.  I really don't understand this attitude that comes out of European countries, that somehow the U.S. should drop our friendship with a country we have strong historical ties to. 

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RE: disproportionate, much? - 12/29/2008 11:54:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yes , of course , but that seems an odd request from one who thinks it incumbent on me to communicate "clearly" (which I am interpreting as I see fit)

Also further handbags would spoil the thread , so If you would care to browse into threads gone by , I'm sure you will find enough evidence to convince you that you are wasting your time .

I thought this thread was about a war ?

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(translation of "handbags" available upon request)

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RE: disproportionate, much? - 12/29/2008 11:54:42 PM   
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Folks, we all experience some difficulties in communication because of the medium here (text only) and differences between various languages, slang and cultures.
 
Deep breaths now...

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