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ORIGINAL: SolangeRichards

When any of these threads on crossdressing are posted, a number of people who have no interest in the subject usually chime in just to let you know they have no interest, and it's not unusual for them to drop off some nasty zing about it while opining.

Well said Solange !!! Very true and observant. If the subject is about crossdressing, and they have no interest in, why bother to read into it, much less drop the "negative" comment. 

The crossdressers who come here, much like just about anyone else, have real interest and questions. They deserve better than the left handed "we're just not into that," welcome.

My own exprience is that most women, including lesbians, enjoy playing with crossdressing very much. They are neither threatened nor bored by it. The only women who seen to have a less than friendly attitude are the ones who are religious zealots and think they are heaven's judge, and women who are frankly insecure in their own femininity.

Funny thing is, take the most vanilla woman with no "Domme" notions and get her involved with the crossdressing and you're going to end up with a "dominant" women whether you wanted it, or not. This is their world and they are going to rule it!

As for the women who say they don't want to deal with crossdressers ... well that's just too bad for them ... just wait till they want to borrow your black dress or your red pumps ... lol !

Most women can have as much fun with you crossdressing and you would have witht hem taking an interest in, and participating in, your favorite sport.

Just remember this one simple fact: it is not the female who has issues with crossdressing, it's us. Get past yourself and you'll be most of the way there with most women; straight, lesbian, domme, vanilla, liberal, concervative ... whatever. 

   

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ORIGINAL: cherrytvsissy

Well said Solange !!! Very true and observant. If the subject is about crossdressing, and they have no interest in, why bother to read into it, much less drop the "negative" comment.
The crossdressers who come here, much like just about anyone else, have real interest and questions. They deserve better than the left handed "we're just not into that," welcome.

It's a public forum. People have opinions on the matter. Some of those opinions are less well-informed than others. That's typical of public fora.

My own exprience is that most women, including lesbians, enjoy playing with crossdressing very much. They are neither threatened nor bored by it.

"Most" women? Whereabouts do you hang out? I'm certain that many crossdressers would love to join you there. My experience--and that of most crossdressers I know--has been that most women need to be introduced to the thing in stages, at best. Make your sub wear panties? Slap a little lipstick on him? Maybe. Permit him to present himself in full makeup, wig, and woman costume? Fuggiddaboudit. In fact, many women will never accept a feminised male at any level.

I would further point out that, while some lesbians are OK with crossdressing and beyond--not a few lesbians are partnered with post-op transwomen--a large contingent of lesbians and feminists are incensed by any degree of genderbending, believing that only womyn born womyn are entitled to style themselves, or to claim to be, women. This simply is the fact of the matter. Arguments about this, both from a certain kind of lesbian and a certain kind of feminist, can get quite vicious.

The only women who seen to have a less than friendly attitude are the ones who are religious zealots and think they are heaven's judge, and women who are frankly insecure in their own femininity.

I'm not sure this is a fair assessment. My own sense is that an awful lot of people, not excluding kinky people, are, consciously or not, very protective of the gender binary. I've said this before, and no doubt will return to it; and with apologies to those who just aren't into feminised males--What's patriarchy without constant, anxious monitoring of masculinity?

Funny thing is, take the most vanilla woman with no "Domme" notions and get her involved with the crossdressing and you're going to end up with a "dominant" women whether you wanted it, or not.

That's very true, much to the distress of a large number of vanilla women who want no part of dominating. It works the other way, too, incidentally: My experience is that a woman who involves herself with a crossdresser ends up with a submissive on her hands, whether she wants one or not.

Just remember this one simple fact: it is not the female who has issues with crossdressing, it's us.

I'm sorry, but I have to disagree with this, and most strenuously. The majority of both men and women have issues with crossdressing. Again--what's patriarchy without constant, anxious monitoring of masculinity?

Oh, and before you get your panties in a twist-- I'm a genetic woman partnered with a submissive crossdresser.
 

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

It seems funny to me that "feminization" should automatically imply CD.  Is that the case with you, Erika?  For me, I'd always thought feminization was about a dominant making her sub 'feel female' in a variety of ways, only one of which would involve ordering him to wear women's clothing.  For me, for instance, the most feminizing thing a woman could do to a man is take him with a strap-on. 

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Ah well.  It's not like I'm happy with any *other* part of my life, either.....

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ORIGINAL: pinnipedster

There is some difference too between a sub who crossdresses, and one who wants to be feminized.  Usually the latter is focusing on the process of being forced to be feminine, with at least some humiliation involved.   For others, it's expressing a different side of themselves.

... I really am not that fussy about how it would fit in...

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...I just don't think I could really love someone who didn't accept and preferably embrace that side of me.  Any more than I could stay in a long relationship with a woman who had no kinky side at all, much though I might be attracted to her otherwise.  It's just not something I'm willing to give up permanently...

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...Heck, I've occasionally communicated with dominant women who like the idea of making their sub crossdress -- but only if he doesn't *want* to do so; if he's got past experience at it, then they lose interest...

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...I know when I've talked about this problem with female friends, some of them have suggested looking for a bisexual woman, on the theory that she presumably wouldn't be turned off at the idea of being romantically/sexually involved with another 'woman."  Actual bisexual women I've queried have not particularly seen it that way, though...

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...Ah well.  It's not like I'm happy with any *other* part of my life, either...

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ORIGINAL: E2Sweet

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...Heck, I've occasionally communicated with dominant women who like the idea of making their sub crossdress -- but only if he doesn't *want* to do so; if he's got past experience at it, then they lose interest...

I personally feel those dominants you speak of here are seeking a different sort of feedback and energy from the act of feminization than what you seem to be seeking. It's humiliation and/or degradation play ...

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ORIGINAL:OttersSwim
... I have finally come to peace with the fact that I will never look like Brittney, Lindsay, or Hanna ...

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iwearpanties wrote:
... being as tall as i am at close to 6'8  most Domes / Doms  shy away thinking and saying Hes  to big to be a sub .