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ORIGINAL: MissSepphora1

The point is everyone is whining that Israel closed the border and Palis can't do anything about it.
Well, obviously that IS NOT true.  Palis can get anything they want through Egypt.
So the point of "the wall" closing Palestine like a prison is FAR FROM TRUE.
Anyone still arguing that point should stop.

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The Rafah crossing was opened on 25 November 2005 and operated nearly daily until 25 June 2006. Since that time it has been closed by Israel on 86% of days due to security reasons. It was not opened for the export of goods. In June 2007, the crossing was closed entirely after the Hamas takeover of the Gaza Strip.
The EU Ambassador to Israel said that EUBAM monitors could not return to man the crossing because the legal basis for EUBAM - the November 2005 agreement on movement and access - specified that the terminal was to be manned by the Fatah-aligned Force 17, who were no longer there

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ORIGINAL: KaineD

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ORIGINAL: MissSepphora1

I believe this says it all.  To anyone who doubted Iran is helping Hamas, this is for you.  To anyone who cries poor Palestinians, they are starving in the street, this is for you.  To anyone stating Israel has made it impossible for Palis to trade or bring anything into their country, this is for you.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,482404,00.html

They have pledged $52 million of their own funds to help repair lives, the money divvied up by category. The veiled woman received compensation for her two-story home in the northern town of Beit Lahiya.
Hamas, believed to be funded by donations from the Muslim world and Iran, has promised $52 million in emergency relief. This would include $1,300 for a death in the family, $650 for an injury, $5,200 for a destroyed house and $2,600 for a damaged house, he said, adding that these are not yet compensation payments, which Hamas promises will follow.

The wording of that article is strange, but not surprising seeing as its fox news.  But anyways, I'm not sure I understand your point.  You are saying "To anyone stating Israel has made it impossible for Palis to trade or bring anything into their country, this is for you."  The article states that Hamas were bringing aid, goods, and weaponry through tunnels through the Egyptian border.  So they had to sneak stuff in just to get aid to people.  I'm really not sure what your point is.  It's getting late over here though, maybe I'm tired and I'm just missing the point.

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

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ORIGINAL: MissSepphora1

The point is everyone is whining that Israel closed the border and Palis can't do anything about it.
Well, obviously that IS NOT true.  Palis can get anything they want through Egypt.
So the point of "the wall" closing Palestine like a prison is FAR FROM TRUE.
Anyone still arguing that point should stop.

You have got your facts wrong.

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The Rafah crossing was opened on 25 November 2005 and operated nearly daily until 25 June 2006. Since that time it has been closed by Israel on 86% of days due to security reasons. It was not opened for the export of goods. In June 2007, the crossing was closed entirely after the Hamas takeover of the Gaza Strip.
The EU Ambassador to Israel said that EUBAM monitors could not return to man the crossing because the legal basis for EUBAM - the November 2005 agreement on movement and access - specified that the terminal was to be manned by the Fatah-aligned Force 17, who were no longer there

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rafah_Crossing

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ORIGINAL: Owner59

Any more for what?

Allowing wholesale theft of Arab land?

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ORIGINAL: Owner59

There`s no doubt that this invasion was timed and planned around our election.

I suspect President Obama will disappoint everyone at the table,equally.It won`t be lopsided anymore.

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ORIGINAL: Owner59

Any more for what?

Allowing wholesale theft of Arab land?

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ORIGINAL: OrionTheWolf

You cast doubt on the story and called it BS, and a distraction. You say "core issues", and here say theft of Arab land. So are you saying that the attacks by HAMAS and similar organizations, against civilian targets are justified because of the theft of land? Is that one of the "core issues" you are talking about? You stated earlier that HAMAS should have unrestricted access to weapons they felt they needed to protect themselves, or something along those lines. So do you support the idea of those weapons being used against civilians? Since there seems to be no determent from HAMAS, and other militant organizations on the Arab side, from striking against civilian targets, it seems logical to remove the weapons from them. I am also for what ever is necessary to keep Israel from doing the same.

Will I get direct answers to these questions, this time.

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ORIGINAL: Owner59

Any more for what?

Allowing wholesale theft of Arab land?

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

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ORIGINAL: OrionTheWolf

You cast doubt on the story and called it BS, and a distraction. You say "core issues", and here say theft of Arab land. So are you saying that the attacks by HAMAS and similar organizations, against civilian targets are justified because of the theft of land? Is that one of the "core issues" you are talking about? You stated earlier that HAMAS should have unrestricted access to weapons they felt they needed to protect themselves, or something along those lines. So do you support the idea of those weapons being used against civilians? Since there seems to be no determent from HAMAS, and other militant organizations on the Arab side, from striking against civilian targets, it seems logical to remove the weapons from them. I am also for what ever is necessary to keep Israel from doing the same.

Will I get direct answers to these questions, this time.

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ORIGINAL: Owner59

Any more for what?

Allowing wholesale theft of Arab land?

This war and the entire 'issue' is not about the Palestinians, not about Gaza, not about who created blockades...

THIS IS ABOUT the DESTRUCTION of the state of ISRAEL. One public relations disaster after another created by a press who cares not for Israel.

To Hamas, Hozbellah and most of Arabia, the only thing better than a dead jew is a dead Palestinian they can blame on the jews.

If the Arabs would lay down their arms...there would be no war.

If the Israelis lay down their arms...there would be no Israel.

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

This war and the entire 'issue' is not about the Palestinians, not about Gaza, not about who created blockades...

THIS IS ABOUT the DESTRUCTION of the state of ISRAEL. One public relations disaster after another created by a press who cares not for Israel.

To Hamas, Hozbellah and most of Arabia, the only thing better than a dead jew is a dead Palestinian they can blame on the jews.

If the Arabs would lay down their arms...there would be no war.

If the Israelis lay down their arms...there would be no Israel.

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ORIGINAL: MissSepphora1

And this is for you:

Do you need any more ?

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

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ORIGINAL: MissSepphora1

And this is for you:

Do you need any more ?

You said the Palestinians can get anything through Egypt. They cant, except through tunnels that Israel have said they will bomb.
The fact remains that Israel closed off all legal ways of bringing goods into Palestine.

The stupidity of your comment speaks for itself.

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ORIGINAL: Hippiekinkster

Israel has legal justification for every one of their actions.
http://www.jcpa.org/text/puzzle1.pdf

Over 6000 rocket attacks have been launched into Israel by the Palestinians since August 2005. EVERY SINGLE ATTACK is a war crime.