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ORIGINAL: ALAstella

But it's not just the time and effort spent in the e-mails, the IM chats and the phone calls, there's also the additional expense of stuff such as stockings, clothing, cosmetics, because a lot of guys expect a domme to look the part too.

Then the simple solution is to offer to dominate him in an empty field in your levis. If your not a pro you owe nothing more than you offer.

Many expect to have the scene at her place, so she's got to have the equipment, and that too is an expense, not to mention the cleaning up afterwards.. and for what? To most guys the end of the scene comes when they've shot their wad and like it or not there's an awful lot of women out there who after the scene is over and all the stuff is cleaned up, the make up comes off together with the clothing go to sleep in a cold, empty bed.

Let us not forget that one of the most crucial elements of WIITWD and BDSM is consideration for the other person, and this is essential no matter who you are and what role you assume in WIITWD. Without it you get nowhere.

I disagree. When I look for a submissive I am looking for someone who likes/wants and needs what I like/want and need. My only consideration would be that they are safe, feel safe and the same for me. I need offer nothing more than my voice and my hand

However it appears that there's a lot of people out there who are simply not prepared to show any consideration for others, and I'm sorry, but I for one am not prepared to condemn these women for trying to get a little financial compensation for their time and effort spent with self-centred male submissives who can only think of their dick and what they are into.

Some do and some don't but the majority of submissives that I have met from this and other sites have been polite, considerate, unexpecting and a lot of fun. Its pretty obvious from the pervy mail (before you meet) if its just a bit of selfish titilation they are after.

This is not to say that I agree with the underhand way of trying to exploit a genuine male submissive (which I am assuming the OP is) but I can clearly see both sides here and I can understand quite clearly why some women do seek 'tributes'.

The thing is, its easy to go out and just get sex. Most men don't have to pay for it and anyway they are not or are highly unlikely to get sex from a pro Mistress so why would the ungenuine subs ever fall for someone who was trying to charge them for domination?

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ORIGINAL: footslaveinct
Sometimes the simplest idea is the best, you are absolutely right!

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ORIGINAL: ALAstella
Just for a bit of perspective, the situation you describe in your OP is certainly no worse than that of many women on this site who also build up hopes after e-mails, IM chats and phone calls only to find all that the guy wants is a quick shag and that she means nothing more to him than sex.

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But it's not just the time and effort spent in the e-mails, the IM chats and the phone calls, there's also the additional expense of stuff such as stockings, clothing, cosmetics, because a lot of guys expect a domme to look the part too.

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Many expect to have the scene at her place, so she's got to have the equipment, and that too is an expense, not to mention the cleaning up afterwards.. and for what? To most guys the end of the scene comes when they've shot their wad and like it or not there's an awful lot of women out there who after the scene is over and all the stuff is cleaned up, the make up comes off together with the clothing go to sleep in a cold, empty bed.

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I'm sorry, but I for one am not prepared to condemn these women for trying to get a little financial compensation for their time and effort spent with self-centred male submissives who can only think of their dick and what they are into.

This is not to say that I agree with the underhand way of trying to exploit a genuine male submissive (which I am assuming the OP is) but I can clearly see both sides here and I can understand quite clearly why some women do seek 'tributes'.

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ORIGINAL: CatdeMedici
those that are not pros but have become pros in seeking or gaining tribute or worse just flat trying to con--those aren't what we would define as Pros--but they are pros in fleecing  the unsuspecting sub giving Pros a bad name

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ORIGINAL: footslaveinct

I can see from a lot of the discussion here that there may be several lifestyle dommes that are not pros, but many want to be paid for thier time. I don't know if this stems from bad encounters with insincere subs who were simply looking for kniky sex or what, but unfortunately the sincere subs will suffer for the insincere ones. Anyone can become a little jaded over time.

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ORIGINAL: lobodomslavery

i just think She is being really hard on me. i gave her money a week ago . She knows my position yet She wants more. i think She is being too controlling. not unlike a lot of women out there i have to say.  even in the work place i ve come across plenty of control freaks much to my regret. i just wish She were a little more maternal and sympathetic, women are supposed to be kind and soft not harsh and demanding
kevin

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i just wish She were a little more maternal and sympathetic, women are supposed to be kind and soft not harsh and demanding
kevin