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RE: Pro-dommes - 1/13/2009 5:07:46 PM

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this is the usual chorus to the song, Guiding
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RE: Pro-dommes - 1/13/2009 5:19:23 PM

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Kevin, she knows your situation. She is tired of it all and wants you to go away and this is her way to force you to go away. Or... she is a sick bitch who takes pleasure in giving you reasons to cry. Either way... go away... stop dwelling on it and move on. She is easy to replace from the sounds of it. Now.. work on you and make it so a dominant would want to dominante you. Hell there are chat rooms filled with dominant women who don't want your money... just your ever lasting kneel before the monitor. Find one if that is all you are getting out of this shit.

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RE: Pro-dommes - 1/13/2009 6:05:34 PM

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As in other careers, there are people who are not quite professional but will describe self as a professional to charge money whether or not what they provide merits it. To me, a professional domme is one who provides domination as a professional service. She charges clients who seek her services, which usually occur in the form of a session. I interpret the word professional much like I do in other fields of work.

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ORIGINAL: lobodomslavery
i keep telling her i dont have it, she keeps on saying , there are ways , there are ways, its as if she is trying to devise every conceivable way of getting money out of me, now i know she s kinda pro, but to me thats a bit tough

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i gave her money a week ago

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and i have to say i agree with the OP, if it were sex , i could understand because nobody should sleep with a stranger for nothing but if its just friendship over the internet there should not be a charge.

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i may add did not text her since then or email her or pm her told her i wanted to break it off actually yet She wont let it go, She was back to the tribute issue again today, She wont let me go either

It is not clear whether or not the domme in question is a professional domme. Even if she is, the two do not appear to have a professional and client relationship. I do not see the situation described to be professional domination. I sense it is more a case of financial domination achieved via manipulation more than consent.

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RE: Pro-dommes - 1/13/2009 6:28:59 PM

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ORIGINAL: lobodomslavery
She wont let me go either, Why cant a sub not walk away of his own accord, Does Mistress have the entitlement to fire her sub as well. Must sub stay with Mistress until She decides he can leave

I sense what you mean when you ask the question in boldface type above is whether the domme is the only one who can end the interaction. The answer, of course, is no.

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ORIGINAL: lobodomslavery
for me servants are taken for granted misunderstood and exploited by manipulative dommes. dont get me wrong , some servants are silly and allow themselves to be exploited , they consent to it , they want it

I am afraid what you attribute to other subs is now becoming applicable to you aside from the difference that you do not seek it as some others might. Other than this difference, you are consenting to it. Your description of the domme does bring to question her ethics. However, you are participating in the situation by remaining a participant.

Each you and she are just citizens. It seems she has some type of psychological hold on you, which you need to break. I think support from people here, or a friend whom you can trust might help break this hold. Has she threatened you with, or are you concerned about any hostile action if you stop communicating with her?

If I ask you for money, you will say no. If I continue to ask you for it, you will eventually begin to ignore me. The same approach will work with her. She can continue to take money from you only if you consent to it. Is there a reason why you feel you cannot use this approach with her?

My suggestion is to write a firm and polite email letting her know you wish to no longer interact with her and that you ask she not contact you again--something along the lines of the following.

"I wish to thank you for the time you have given me thus far. I am unable to further continue our interaction. I am not willing to reconsider this position and request that you cease to contact me. I hope you honor this request for no other possibility exists."

After that, you are free to ignore her, block her, mention legal recourse, whatever.

Incidentally, even if she backs off from her demand of tribute, I think you should still walk away. Based on what you have written, I don't think you can give her your trust again. I think you should save your energy and submission for someone who is a better person.

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RE: Pro-dommes - 1/13/2009 6:53:30 PM

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Look for the silver lining.

Not the worn out thread.

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I'm stealing this for my sig.

And she was wearing a bonnet officer, and driving one of them classy carriages.

I never saw it coming officer, she was smooth as silk I tell ya, smooth as silk.

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Mmmmm, smooth is good. At least if you aren't a chia pet .... the computer went pfffft when I wrote that and was trying to add the sig line - better try to swipe it again. So much for smooth. LOL (Channeling Sally Field award acceptance speech "you like my carriage. you really, really like my carriage".)

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RE: Pro-dommes - 1/13/2009 9:51:29 PM

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ORIGINAL: lobodomslavery

the worst thing Lynnxz is that She boasts on Her website that even without the tributes from her slaves , She would never not be living in absolute luxury as She is already very wealthy. Her income is like in the thousands of dollars per month even. and yet She still insists i pay Her even though my income is very much lower, only welfare, thats cruel
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If you don't think Bill Gates should charge you for Windows, by virtue of his wealth, then don't buy it.

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RE: Pro-dommes - 1/13/2009 11:02:24 PM

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Why the hell would a pro Mistress tout for business on a site like this? Its going to take a whole lot of time with a very low return.
I know that there are pro's on here that are on the look out for customers and I only have one thing to say to them. 'Your going to probably get less than a 1% return if that as well as a whole lot of flack, so why the hell don't you go and build yourself a decent web site, advertise locally and get yourself onto the pro Mistress sites or is that too difficult?

I have made the same point, but the pros on this site obviously disagree. I don't know why pro dommes bother with this website because guys that want to meet a pro aren't going to look here. The pros claim they make a lot of money but I'm sure it's not from guys here.

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RE: Pro-dommes - 1/13/2009 11:11:31 PM

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ORIGINAL: lobodomslavery

Why would they want to take the little the sub has.

I think for some dominant women part of the turn on is a money fetish. The like to humiliate men by demanding money. That's OK, but they should just be demanding a token payment.

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RE: Pro-dommes - 1/13/2009 11:29:23 PM

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Fast Reply -

There is a section here in the Forums for professional services if that is what you want.
If not, block, ignore and delete messages for money.

http://www.collarchat.com/forumid_40/tt.htm

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RE: Pro-dommes - 1/14/2009 10:43:33 AM

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Man- this site was said to be welcoming and it sometimes is but mostly not. People are so worried about what other people are doing- I am a pro domme and i come her just to bounce ideas and see whats up- no big deal- chill out-

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RE: Pro-dommes - 1/15/2009 1:46:10 AM

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Should a sub be charged for just talking with a Mistress. Is that fair
kevin

Will you ever give it a rest? You're a real gift Kevin, and I'm shocked that women are wanting to charge you even for merely listening to you, charming as you obviously are. M

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RE: Pro-dommes - 1/16/2009 7:16:12 AM

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Man- this site was said to be welcoming and it sometimes is but mostly not. People are so worried about what other people are doing- I am a pro domme and i come her just to bounce ideas and see whats up- no big deal- chill out-

The post to which you responded was written by a former professional domme. She is not slamming the profession or the participation on these forums by pro dommes, and instead the method of marketing.

As for other posts, the critical comments are aimed not at the profession but at specific behaviors that are unfair or unethical: seeking clients under the guise of a personal relationship, or trying to seek money under the name of dominance from someone who is not interested in the kink of financial domination.

Cheers,

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RE: Pro-dommes - 1/22/2009 4:25:05 AM

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Man- this site was said to be welcoming and it sometimes is but mostly not. People are so worried about what other people are doing- I am a pro domme and i come her just to bounce ideas and see whats up- no big deal- chill out-

I agree. Most of the people on this site are very close minded. They are hostile to anything besides traditional relationships, which is weird since they also get turned on by BDSM. Go figure!

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RE: Pro-dommes - 1/22/2009 4:26:23 AM

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Bill Gates is a billionaire: Windows ain't free.
If you don't think Bill Gates should charge you for Windows, by virtue of his wealth, then don't buy it.

Sweetie, that's why we have Linux!

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RE: Pro-dommes - 1/22/2009 5:44:02 AM

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Man- this site was said to be welcoming and it sometimes is but mostly not. People are so worried about what other people are doing- I am a pro domme and i come her just to bounce ideas and see whats up- no big deal- chill out-

I agree. Most of the people on this site are very close minded. They are hostile to anything besides traditional relationships, which is weird since they also get turned on by BDSM. Go figure!

You are usually hostile towards prodommes... why the sudden change of heart?

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RE: Pro-dommes - 1/22/2009 11:07:36 AM

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ORIGINAL: Lynnxz

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ORIGINAL: azjojoba

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ORIGINAL: MadamBell

Man- this site was said to be welcoming and it sometimes is but mostly not. People are so worried about what other people are doing- I am a pro domme and i come her just to bounce ideas and see whats up- no big deal- chill out-

I agree. Most of the people on this site are very close minded. They are hostile to anything besides traditional relationships, which is weird since they also get turned on by BDSM. Go figure!

You are usually hostile towards prodommes... why the sudden change of heart?

He HAS to agree with folks who are hating on the rest of us!

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RE: Pro-dommes - 1/22/2009 11:31:13 AM

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there are a lot of con men and con women on this site. Buyer beware, or should that be sub beware, amongst them there are people of integrity male and female
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RE: Pro-dommes - 1/23/2009 11:47:17 PM

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You are usually hostile towards prodommes... why the sudden change of heart?

I don't hate pro dommes. If I could afford them I would probably hire them on occasion.

I would rather have a non pro because to me once money changes hands it's just not the same kind of relationship -- I like to know the woman who is dominating me is really enjoying it instead of just doing it for a job.

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RE: Pro-dommes - 1/23/2009 11:49:45 PM

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there are a lot of con men and con women on this site. Buyer beware, or should that be sub beware, amongst them there are people of integrity male and female
kevin

Some of the pro dommes could be cops. That is another risk to consider.

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RE: Pro-dommes - 1/24/2009 6:18:14 AM

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No i wouldnt think so. Cops would not be unorthodox. A cop with a whip. A cop who is a Pro Domme. Nah dont think so. Maybe in fantasy tho
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