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RE: STUPID Subs... - 1/5/2006 11:17:09 PM   
imtempting


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Seems like a typical rave by someone...

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RE: STUPID Subs... - 1/5/2006 11:24:38 PM   
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Im neither for, nor against this type of post, if youve got a spleen that needs venting, then i guess i can go with that.

Fantasy is not reality? really? shit, im dreaming then

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RE: STUPID Subs... - 1/5/2006 11:30:00 PM   
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Carefull if you scratch your head enough people might think ya got flea's or something hehehe. JK

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RE: STUPID Subs... - 1/5/2006 11:31:08 PM   
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but, hey...i could make money with a flea circus...LOL

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RE: STUPID Subs... - 1/5/2006 11:36:45 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: FelinePersuasion

la I leave my height and weight blank just to bug people like you hehehe.




I KNEW IT!!! hee hee hee

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RE: STUPID Subs... - 1/5/2006 11:39:50 PM   
kissntell


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la9... thanks for saying what I'm sure so many of us have been thinking. Searching for a special someone is hard enough without the lil games and antics.

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RE: STUPID Subs... - 1/6/2006 12:13:24 AM   
babybunny


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Nice post.. a good read and a bit of warning. :o

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RE: STUPID Subs... - 1/6/2006 12:29:51 AM   
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It was kind of a fun thing to read the way you wrote in that ticked mode, although I'm not sure there were too many earth rotational, threatening revelations. Easy to dance to and a good beat. I'll read your next one, too.

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RE: STUPID Subs... - 1/6/2006 12:44:52 AM   
samvega


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The only thing I can think of to add to that, is perhaps sub might consider writing a response to doms that try to contact you.

I havent been here very long but out of approx 25 subs I have contacted only one has bothered to write a response.

Often when people describe the pro's of a bdsm lifestyle they often quip the standard of honesty, communication, and respect that is show amongst our kind. Well, a few days on collarme.com will pop that balloon faster than a barrett .50 sniper rifle.

If a sub tells me she's not interested I'm actually quite appreciative that she took the time to say so. This kind of respect and courtesy will go a long way to lighten the mood and ecourage better communication amongst the bdsm community.


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RE: STUPID Subs... - 1/6/2006 12:50:24 AM   
Wolfie648


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Can't we all just get along? :-)

Here's the gig. We have subs/slaves(etc.) with whatever need demands they want.

We have Dom/Dommes/Tops(etc.) with whatever need demands they want.

Once in a blue moon things match up. Someone(s) win the lottery. Grats good for them.

In the mean time wait it out.

D (owner of j)



quote:

... And DICKHEAD Doms!!!


Having been involved in D/s for many years and read many posts/profiles here (as well as on other kink sites) by both Tops and bottoms (or whatever title you prefer), it never ceases to amaze me how absolutely stupid 90% of kinksters are -- here's why...

Both Tops and bottoms whine in their profiles and on these boards about not being able to find someone that's right for them, but they can't see THEY are their own worst enemy -- repeatedly shooting themselves in the foot. Let me break it down:

BOTTOMS: You whine on and on about wanting a very special Dom, yet when one of clear compassion and long term interest in you approaches you, you automatically assume love/compassion = a softer, less kinky, less powerful dynamic. Hey idiot... One has nothing to do with the other. The dynamic is defined by BOTH people (sorry fellow Doms, it's true), and as such, just as water finds its own level, so too do the pair. Does a Master not wish to care for his property? Does a Dom not prize that which he owns? OF COURSE HE DOES!!! Certainly you subs own cars (i.e., property), do you not? Do you never wash them, never put oil in them, wax them, never care for them? OF COURSE YOU DO... So like your car, you become your Master's property and it is NATURAL for him to care for his property -- to preserve it. Caring for something does NOT mean you don't "use" it, just as you will be used by your owner.

Also, what is it with you retards not taking a few minutes to just get to know a Dom/Master that has been both informative in their profile as well as respectful to you in his communications? Are you a friggin mind reader that can just tell what type of person someone is going to be from TYPE on a screen? Are you really this clueless? Maybe he said something in his profile that you took the wrong way... Maybe he wasn't as clear as he could have been... Maybe he's the perfect one for you, but because you read one word the wrong way, then it's off to press that "block" button like a mental patient.

Oh, and as a personal favor, please be so kind as to list the damn CITY you live in your profile. How retarded are you to boldly state, "NOT WILLING TO RELOCATE", and then don't bother listing the friggin city/general area you're not willing to relocate from?!! Oh, and for you bottoms that don't list your height and/or weight, fill it out already -- it's not like we're not gonna find out, ya know? But when you leave it blank, we just think the worst.

TOPS: You bemoan about wanting that special sub/slave to serve you, but what do you offer her besides a high school level discussion of how you're going to use her? Hey idiot... Whether you (or she) care to believe it, she is still a human being with a brain and not a one-dimensional plastic fuck doll. Sure, this type of dynamic would be fun in the short term, but then what? Also, when you speak with the bottoms on here, is it such a difficult concept to grasp that while they may be a sub/slave, that they are not YOUR sub/slave -- so where the Hell do you get off talking to her like she is? Don't you realize how fucking stupid you look, at least to any girl with more than 3 brain cells that aren't fighting?!!

Also, you want to be her Dom/Master and limit her exposure to the real world, exactly how are you going to do that with your $5.25 an hour job at Starbucks, Sparky? She is going to have needs like, you know, food, clothes, insurance, etc. How ya gonna take care of her when you can barely take care of yourself? It never ceases to amaze me how many people whine about being broke, but expect to be a Master to another. Also, why limit your sub/slave from the world? What would happen to her if something happened to you -- don't ya think a responsible person would take this into consideration and ensure she was able to fend for herself in the (I'm sure) unlikely event you two are not together for the rest of your lives? I mean, it's not like she can put "slave" on her resume?!!

And guys... For Christ's sake, STOP CHEATING ON THE LADIES!!! D/s allows those of you who want a "poly" relationship to do so. Have some respect. A Dom/Master is supposed to LEAD, and this is hardly the behavior of a "leader". Keep the damn mouse in the house or at least have the consideration not to disrespect her. You wouldn't want her to cheat on you, so don't cheat on her. Besides, guys like me are getting really PISSED having to repeatedly try and convince the girls on here that not all men cheat.

TOPS & BOTTOMS: How do I say this clearly enough... There is FANTASY and there is REALITY -- WAKE UP AND SMELL THE FRIGGIN COFFEE!!! Hint: "The Story of O" and "Secretary" were MOVIES... They are not real life!!! If any of you think you can participate in D/s all day every day, you're sadly mistaken. Can the dynamic be the backdrop to everything? Sure. But I get so sick and tired of reading these stupid profiles (mostly by the newbies) that think they're gonna be flogged, or flog another, 24/7 -- it ain't gonna happen genius, despite the number of times you rewind your favorite scene in "Story of O", ok?!!

And here's a shocker you folks may not realize, but it's this fantasy nonsense that causes the rudeness so many of you bitch about. Here's how it works:

1. One of the Tops or bottoms shows up in the fora and posts about some "heavy" scene where the bottom is clearly objectified, fucked to the nines, and happily services her Top.

2. The cattle in the fora applaud like monkeys at feeding time at the zoo.

3. The Tops and bottoms see this, and in their communications to each other, the Tops think they need to be this hard-core (or risk being viewed as not Dominant enough), that they need to be unemotional, demanding, etc., and the bottoms think they need to be accepting of being routinely referred to has slut, cunt, whore, etc. when speaking to a Top they just started talking to and that it's normal to talk about the size of the last dildo you had shoved up your ass before the person you're speaking with even knows your name?!!

So in short, what I'm saying is this fantasy nonsense that's being sucked up by both the Tops and the bottoms ENCOURAGES the very unwelcomed behavior so many rail on about in the fora.

Look folks, I'm certainly not stating that everyone here is compatible with one and other, we ALL have our preferences -- God knows I do -- but don't be such retards. We are PEOPLE, not cookie-cutters. If you subs/slaves desire use/objectification or love/compassion or all of the above, don't ya think us Doms/Masters can do both? Unless we're talking about something like scat or extreme abuse or animals or some other act that's embraced by a much smaller number of folks, there's NOTHING two people who WANT to make the relationship/dynamic work won't do.

*Special Note: To you subs/slaves in your 20s & early 30s -- please seek out the subs/slaves in their late 30s and up. They've probably made the same mistakes you're making now. Talk to them and learn that you should be seeking MORE than just being someone's fuck hole. You may not believe this now, but you will later, and by then it will be significantly harder to find that special one. Choose wisely now!!!

Let's PLEASE start 2006 out right this time and hopefully everyone will have someone special come (or better yet, cum) Valentines Day this year, okie dokie?!!


Ok folks... Feel free to FLAME away!!! hee hee hee

(Edited for typos and shtufff...)

< Message edited by la90066 -- 1/5/2006 9:56:34 PM >


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RE: STUPID Subs... - 1/6/2006 2:17:51 AM   
themischievous1


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That was one of the best rants I've ever read on here, LA! I was just wondering; could you arrange to have that rant sent to every dom and sub on this site? It would really help the status quo.

By the way, your profile is also one of the best I've seen on here for dominants, in terms of being factual, informative, and covering all the bases. You have seriously caught on to the fact that many of the bottoms on here desire the complete package/relationship. We deserve it too. Submissives are more than just a piece of hot subservient ass to be taken advantage of.

I'm sure some of the doms would enjoy being taken seriously as well; it's just that so many of them appear to only be concerned with the bedroom aspect of D/s and forget that this is supposed to be about forming a "relationship."

Well, I hope your rant does some good, LA. One can hope.


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RE: STUPID Subs... - 1/6/2006 4:02:34 AM   
BeeQueen


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yeaah.......right.....this sounds like something i wrote......and it amazes me that u didnt get trashed like me....i basically made the same points a cpl of month ago.....and got badly trashed for stating a few truthes.....i mean come on ppl...fantasie is fantasie..and rl is rl.....and the perfect match is when u find a person that goes with you, living ur dream and cares for you. and just as a lil add.....if u think that a fantasiebook is a good methode to find your way of living...i suggest either alice in wonderland or the starwars, that way u at least wont harm anyones health. btw..im true klingon *winks*
happy 2006
Bee

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RE: STUPID Subs... - 1/6/2006 4:16:52 AM   
sweetpettjenny


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Great post....

quote:

ORIGINAL: la90066

... And DICKHEAD Doms!!!


Having been involved in D/s for many years and read many posts/profiles here (as well as on other kink sites) by both Tops and bottoms (or whatever title you prefer), it never ceases to amaze me how absolutely stupid 90% of kinksters are -- here's why...

Both Tops and bottoms whine in their profiles and on these boards about not being able to find someone that's right for them, but they can't see THEY are their own worst enemy -- repeatedly shooting themselves in the foot. Let me break it down:

BOTTOMS: You whine on and on about wanting a very special Dom, yet when one of clear compassion and long term interest in you approaches you, you automatically assume love/compassion = a softer, less kinky, less powerful dynamic. Hey idiot... One has nothing to do with the other. The dynamic is defined by BOTH people (sorry fellow Doms, it's true), and as such, just as water finds its own level, so too do the pair. Does a Master not wish to care for his property? Does a Dom not prize that which he owns? OF COURSE HE DOES!!! Certainly you subs own cars (i.e., property), do you not? Do you never wash them, never put oil in them, wax them, never care for them? OF COURSE YOU DO... So like your car, you become your Master's property and it is NATURAL for him to care for his property -- to preserve it. Caring for something does NOT mean you don't "use" it, just as you will be used by your owner.

Also, what is it with you retards not taking a few minutes to just get to know a Dom/Master that has been both informative in their profile as well as respectful to you in his communications? Are you a friggin mind reader that can just tell what type of person someone is going to be from TYPE on a screen? Are you really this clueless? Maybe he said something in his profile that you took the wrong way... Maybe he wasn't as clear as he could have been... Maybe he's the perfect one for you, but because you read one word the wrong way, then it's off to press that "block" button like a mental patient.

Oh, and as a personal favor, please be so kind as to list the damn CITY you live in your profile. How retarded are you to boldly state, "NOT WILLING TO RELOCATE", and then don't bother listing the friggin city/general area you're not willing to relocate from?!! Oh, and for you bottoms that don't list your height and/or weight, fill it out already -- it's not like we're not gonna find out, ya know? But when you leave it blank, we just think the worst.

TOPS: You bemoan about wanting that special sub/slave to serve you, but what do you offer her besides a high school level discussion of how you're going to use her? Hey idiot... Whether you (or she) care to believe it, she is still a human being with a brain and not a one-dimensional plastic fuck doll. Sure, this type of dynamic would be fun in the short term, but then what? Also, when you speak with the bottoms on here, is it such a difficult concept to grasp that while they may be a sub/slave, that they are not YOUR sub/slave -- so where the Hell do you get off talking to her like she is? Don't you realize how fucking stupid you look, at least to any girl with more than 3 brain cells that aren't fighting?!!

Also, you want to be her Dom/Master and limit her exposure to the real world, exactly how are you going to do that with your $5.25 an hour job at Starbucks, Sparky? She is going to have needs like, you know, food, clothes, insurance, etc. How ya gonna take care of her when you can barely take care of yourself? It never ceases to amaze me how many people whine about being broke, but expect to be a Master to another. Also, why limit your sub/slave from the world? What would happen to her if something happened to you -- don't ya think a responsible person would take this into consideration and ensure she was able to fend for herself in the (I'm sure) unlikely event you two are not together for the rest of your lives? I mean, it's not like she can put "slave" on her resume?!!

And guys... For Christ's sake, STOP CHEATING ON THE LADIES!!! D/s allows those of you who want a "poly" relationship to do so. Have some respect. A Dom/Master is supposed to LEAD, and this is hardly the behavior of a "leader". Keep the damn mouse in the house or at least have the consideration not to disrespect her. You wouldn't want her to cheat on you, so don't cheat on her. Besides, guys like me are getting really PISSED having to repeatedly try and convince the girls on here that not all men cheat.

TOPS & BOTTOMS: How do I say this clearly enough... There is FANTASY and there is REALITY -- WAKE UP AND SMELL THE FRIGGIN COFFEE!!! Hint: "The Story of O" and "Secretary" were MOVIES... They are not real life!!! If any of you think you can participate in D/s all day every day, you're sadly mistaken. Can the dynamic be the backdrop to everything? Sure. But I get so sick and tired of reading these stupid profiles (mostly by the newbies) that think they're gonna be flogged, or flog another, 24/7 -- it ain't gonna happen genius, despite the number of times you rewind your favorite scene in "Story of O", ok?!!

And here's a shocker you folks may not realize, but it's this fantasy nonsense that causes the rudeness so many of you bitch about. Here's how it works:

1. One of the Tops or bottoms shows up in the fora and posts about some "heavy" scene where the bottom is clearly objectified, fucked to the nines, and happily services her Top.

2. The cattle in the fora applaud like monkeys at feeding time at the zoo.

3. The Tops and bottoms see this, and in their communications to each other, the Tops think they need to be this hard-core (or risk being viewed as not Dominant enough), that they need to be unemotional, demanding, etc., and the bottoms think they need to be accepting of being routinely referred to has slut, cunt, whore, etc. when speaking to a Top they just started talking to and that it's normal to talk about the size of the last dildo you had shoved up your ass before the person you're speaking with even knows your name?!!

So in short, what I'm saying is this fantasy nonsense that's being sucked up by both the Tops and the bottoms ENCOURAGES the very unwelcomed behavior so many rail on about in the fora.

Look folks, I'm certainly not stating that everyone here is compatible with one and other, we ALL have our preferences -- God knows I do -- but don't be such retards. We are PEOPLE, not cookie-cutters. If you subs/slaves desire use/objectification or love/compassion or all of the above, don't ya think us Doms/Masters can do both? Unless we're talking about something like scat or extreme abuse or animals or some other act that's embraced by a much smaller number of folks, there's NOTHING two people who WANT to make the relationship/dynamic work won't do.

*Special Note: To you subs/slaves in your 20s & early 30s -- please seek out the subs/slaves in their late 30s and up. They've probably made the same mistakes you're making now. Talk to them and learn that you should be seeking MORE than just being someone's fuck hole. You may not believe this now, but you will later, and by then it will be significantly harder to find that special one. Choose wisely now!!!

Let's PLEASE start 2006 out right this time and hopefully everyone will have someone special come (or better yet, cum) Valentines Day this year, okie dokie?!!


Ok folks... Feel free to FLAME away!!! hee hee hee

(Edited for typos and shtufff...)


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RE: STUPID Subs... - 1/6/2006 5:04:42 AM   
passionfirenmo


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I had to open this post,*Stupid Subs*?
Well I must say,,, Most of what you say is true,,But gee ,, could you Tell us how You really feel???????
LoL,,,Thanks for starting my morning with a laugh,

Have fun Stay well,

passion

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RE: STUPID Subs... - 1/6/2006 6:12:07 AM   
LuckyAlbatross


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quote:

ORIGINAL: samvega
If a sub tells me she's not interested I'm actually quite appreciative that she took the time to say so. This kind of respect and courtesy will go a long way to lighten the mood and ecourage better communication amongst the bdsm community.

No, it won't really.

Now OFFLINE, yes.

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RE: STUPID Subs... - 1/6/2006 6:12:27 AM   
fyreredsub


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ahhhhhhhhh well said, i enjoy brutal honesty

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RE: STUPID Subs... - 1/6/2006 6:14:07 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: BeeQueen

yeaah.......right.....this sounds like something i wrote......and it amazes me that u didnt get trashed like me....i basically made the same points a cpl of month ago.....and got badly trashed for stating a few truthes.....i mean come on ppl...fantasie is fantasie..and rl is rl.....and the perfect match is when u find a person that goes with you, living ur dream and cares for you. and just as a lil add.....if u think that a fantasiebook is a good methode to find your way of living...i suggest either alice in wonderland or the starwars, that way u at least wont harm anyones health. btw..im true klingon *winks*
happy 2006
Bee


One of the reasons is that using excellent English and complete sentences helps in communication online a LOT.


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RE: STUPID Subs... - 1/6/2006 7:37:29 AM   
Chaingang


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Funny how people think the OP's words were so harsh yet wise - all it turns out to be is whining about other people's whining. KISS, just stop whining altogether!

One person's truth is another person's whine...ho hum.

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RE: STUPID Subs... - 1/6/2006 7:41:45 AM   
miticantenslaved


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quote:

One of the reasons is that using excellent English and complete sentences helps in communication online a LOT.


OMG...it duz? *skippes awf two bruch upp awn mi speling and gramer*

~M/miti

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RE: STUPID Subs... - 1/6/2006 8:14:59 AM   
xxblushesxx


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(anybody else having a hard time with collar today?...keep getting knocked off...and...oh...just everything)

Well, the op was obviously looking for attention with that opening line...and he got it.

I am surprised that he finds that most subs feel that if a man is funny and/or sweet he cannot be a 'true' dom. I like 'em sweet and intelligent...makes the edge all that much yummier!

Seems like a lot of what was stated though, truly drew both subs and doms with a broad brush. I don't know if I can agree with that.

Yes, maybe SOME of this has to be said to SOME of the people...but do most of us come across as stupid?!! (don't answer that, I don't even want to know!!) LOL

Well, hope you feel better LA!

*hugs*

Christina

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