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Venatrix -> RE: Tributes and Genuine Dommes (1/19/2009 11:18:38 AM)

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ORIGINAL: bisubboy1

I have been on this site for a few weeks and have written back and forth with a few Dommes. To be blunt it seems like all the Dommes on this site are only interested in milking desperate subs for their money. I am a sincere sub looking for a long term relationship with a real Domme, but I am very skeptical when after one or maybe two emails a woman that knows nothing about me or me about her is asking for a tribute.

How do you separate the real people on this site from the scammers?

Thanks!
b.


My dominance isn't for sale, therefore I don't accept tribute.  That doesn't mean that I don't expect to be treated well, though, as I expect to treat my sub well, too.  I have a lot to offer and I expect a lot in return.  It doesn't necessarily follow that that involves money.

As far as how to sort out those who want money from those who don't goes, you'll have to do the same thing dominant women do when it comes to sorting out the serious subs from the time wasters:  keep trying.




MissSixx -> RE: Tributes and Genuine Dommes (1/19/2009 11:45:43 AM)

Each person is using this site for their own reasons...  I am always up front with what I expect from my subs...

To call them scammers is a bit ridiculous.  How are they scamming you when they tell you what they want from you?  you can say no.  

I will you the best of luck.  Keep in mind that lasting relationships take time to create.

Miss Sixx




bisubboy1 -> RE: Tributes and Genuine Dommes (1/19/2009 12:30:23 PM)

Back again. This time I am about to give up on finding a genuine Domme. I have been emailing back and forth with a Domme and it appears that she is ready to take our relationship to the next level, but she wants to be sure I am serious. She has asked me to make a tribute with a credit card to her payment service. Now she is a professional Domme, but is looking for a personal slave. I am going crazy because can't she think of a thousand other ways for me to prove I am serious? I have been burned so many times before by "Dommes" demanding tribute only to take my money and run.

Thanks in advance for your thoughts?

B.




thishereboi -> RE: Tributes and Genuine Dommes (1/19/2009 12:38:40 PM)

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ORIGINAL: bisubboy1

Back again. This time I am about to give up on finding a genuine Domme. I have been emailing back and forth with a Domme and it appears that she is ready to take our relationship to the next level, but she wants to be sure I am serious. She has asked me to make a tribute with a credit card to her payment service. Now she is a professional Domme, but is looking for a personal slave. I am going crazy because can't she think of a thousand other ways for me to prove I am serious? I have been burned so many times before by "Dommes" demanding tribute only to take my money and run.

Thanks in advance for your thoughts?

B.


http://www.domsubfriends.com/cgi-local/wwwdir/db.cgi?db=org&uid=default&state=ILLINOIS&view_records=View+Records&ww=on

Try meeting people off of the internet. I have met hundreds of Dommes at munches and events and have never had one mention a tribute. It wasn't until I joined CM that I started seeing the trend of "pay me to show your sincere".




PeonForHer -> RE: Tributes and Genuine Dommes (1/19/2009 12:38:45 PM)

Many subs are so wrapped up in their "rights as a sub" and the concept that they do not want to be taken advantage of that they throw a fit at even the mere concept that in a potential *relationship* (two people with mutual affection) they may have LESS rights, or be the one on the other end of power exchange (as Fullfig sort of pointed out - if you want 50/50, it's called VANILLA, boys). 

I can't see that your use of the word "rights" holds, there, A.   Where else, except in D/s, would one talk about "rights that one has the option to surrender or not to surrender"?  "Rights" are enshrined in law, or with some other power behind them.  It makes no real sense to talk of "optional rights", as far as I can see. 

Versus M's view that "if you want 50/50, it's called VANILLA, boys"; at the level of the word "rights" in its proper usage, I think that both parties certainly are equal.  Or they would have to be for me, anyway.  That I'd take as read by the very idea of two people coming together to negotiate whose, and which, desires and needs are going to be treated as the more important.  They come together as equals in that negotiation and they'll always have equal rights. 

I'd assume equal respect for each other's body, mind and soul, too.  That assumption might not have physical or legal power behind it but it would have moral power, instead. 










Lockit -> RE: Tributes and Genuine Dommes (1/19/2009 12:41:37 PM)

Hey now... you are giving up finding a genuine dominant because of a few misleading people?  Stop... think...  Many of us get frustrated finding a partner... many of us go through the lies or misleading or the confused and get upset with the process... but you give up? 

Are you submissive?  Do you feel this is more than kinky sex?  Do you think you can walk away from who you are if you are really submissive?  Or even if you are just kinky?

Why give up?  What does that say about you?  Okay... take a time out.  Chill... stop thinking that submission and relationships with dominants are built in a day... and realize this is the real world... it happens outside of bdsm and you're not doing yourself any favors by quiting in your own life.

Buck up young man!




Venatrix -> RE: Tributes and Genuine Dommes (1/19/2009 12:43:52 PM)

So, what you're looking for is an unequal equal relationship?[:D]




Venatrix -> RE: Tributes and Genuine Dommes (1/19/2009 12:45:22 PM)

Yeah!  If anyone's entitled to give up around here, it is I.  But I'm still here.  Looking.  Sorta.  Kinda.  Maybe.




Lockit -> RE: Tributes and Genuine Dommes (1/19/2009 12:50:06 PM)

I'll see you on that entitlement and add two... one for my illness and son (adult)... (I am allowed a pity party once in a while ya know!)  Soooooo... if anyone has a reason to give up... that would be me... I am just to friggin stubborn to give up on what I might by chance find or hunt... and capture.




PeonForHer -> RE: Tributes and Genuine Dommes (1/19/2009 12:51:19 PM)

Bisubboy,

I think you're about to get ripped off.  I'm afraid I wouldn't trust her an inch.

On this forum, we've all seen many complaints by dominants about subs who'll treat them like nothing more than "wank material".  For the subs, I think the equivalent is dominants who'll treat subs as nothing more than "money-tapping material".   I think the solution for both dominants and subs is the same: treat the other like a person to get to know - make the kink secondary till the kind of relationship you want between you and the other has been established.




PeonForHer -> RE: Tributes and Genuine Dommes (1/19/2009 12:54:54 PM)

So, what you're looking for is an unequal equal relationship?[:D]

When I think your ability with words is equal to mine, I'll let you put words into my mouth, matey.  [;)]

But the answer's, er, "yes", actually.   D/s is full of contradictions - there's just one another to add to the list. 




Lockit -> RE: Tributes and Genuine Dommes (1/19/2009 12:57:18 PM)

Hehe.. nothing to contradict... if you just do what she says!




Venatrix -> RE: Tributes and Genuine Dommes (1/19/2009 12:57:50 PM)

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

When I think your ability with words is equal to mine, I'll let you put words into my mouth, matey.  [;)]



You can count yourself very fortunate indeed if I ever put *anything* in your mouth.




Lockit -> RE: Tributes and Genuine Dommes (1/19/2009 12:58:53 PM)

Is this a matter of his foot in mouth or your boot?  I am confused here! hehe




Venatrix -> RE: Tributes and Genuine Dommes (1/19/2009 1:00:27 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Lockit

I'll see you on that entitlement and add two... one for my illness and son (adult)... (I am allowed a pity party once in a while ya know!)  Soooooo... if anyone has a reason to give up... that would be me... I am just to friggin stubborn to give up on what I might by chance find or hunt... and capture.


Oh, Lockit, I'm so sorry.  Maybe we can encourage some prey to come and lie down at your feet to make it a bit easier on you.  Of course, that kind of doesn't make it prey anymore, but let's not be fussy about definitions at a time like this.




PeonForHer -> RE: Tributes and Genuine Dommes (1/19/2009 1:03:07 PM)

Hehe.. nothing to contradict... if you just do what she says!
 
That'd only be true if she never contradicted herself.  Seeing as she's a woman, though . . . . . .

. . . . . . I can't remember where that thought was going to take me.  Right now, all I've got in my head, for some inexplicable reason, is an image of the world burning.




Venatrix -> RE: Tributes and Genuine Dommes (1/19/2009 1:03:10 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Lockit

Is this a matter of his foot in mouth or your boot?  I am confused here! hehe


You know, now that you mention it, I think we could have hours of amusement with him if his foot were literally in his mouth.  Just the thought of him hopping around on one leg has me laughing my head off.  Of course, that would require a degree of flexibility that he probably doesn't possess.  Time to start those yoga classes, PforH.




LadyHibiscus -> RE: Tributes and Genuine Dommes (1/19/2009 1:03:46 PM)

My whine is bigger than ANYONE else's.  So THERE.  [;)]




PeonForHer -> RE: Tributes and Genuine Dommes (1/19/2009 1:04:26 PM)

Yes!

I love it when a feeder line gets taken up! [:D]




Lockit -> RE: Tributes and Genuine Dommes (1/19/2009 1:06:09 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Venatrix

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lockit

I'll see you on that entitlement and add two... one for my illness and son (adult)... (I am allowed a pity party once in a while ya know!)  Soooooo... if anyone has a reason to give up... that would be me... I am just to friggin stubborn to give up on what I might by chance find or hunt... and capture.


Oh, Lockit, I'm so sorry.  Maybe we can encourage some prey to come and lie down at your feet to make it a bit easier on you.  Of course, that kind of doesn't make it prey anymore, but let's not be fussy about definitions at a time like this.


ROFL... I think I can manage!




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