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azjojoba -> RE: Chastity Devices (1/15/2009 12:04:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: beeble quote: azjojoba wrote: I have always been skeptical about claims that guys would wear these things for more than a couple of days. Even if a domme could find a guy that would do it, what thrill does she get? She gets to control when I get hard, which is more than I can do, even consciously. It works very well with a tease and denial dynamic. But the important thing is that she can let me out whenever she wants so she doesn't lose anything by making me wear the CB. If she wants to play with my cock, she can take it out and do that. If she wants to torment me by making me horny while it's locked up, she can do that, instead. beeble. I can definitely see the fun in that for a session, but I can't see it for days or weeks. Each to their own though, but I jthink there are many more dommes who want to do this then men. It's one of those unfulfilled female fantasies.

Lockit -> RE: Chastity Devices (1/15/2009 12:18:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: azjojoba quote: ORIGINAL: beeble quote: azjojoba wrote: I have always been skeptical about claims that guys would wear these things for more than a couple of days. Even if a domme could find a guy that would do it, what thrill does she get? She gets to control when I get hard, which is more than I can do, even consciously. It works very well with a tease and denial dynamic. But the important thing is that she can let me out whenever she wants so she doesn't lose anything by making me wear the CB. If she wants to play with my cock, she can take it out and do that. If she wants to torment me by making me horny while it's locked up, she can do that, instead. beeble. I can definitely see the fun in that for a session, but I can't see it for days or weeks. Each to their own though, but I jthink there are many more dommes who want to do this then men. It's one of those unfulfilled female fantasies. Who care's if it is? But I dare say... I don't consider that to be worth much in how it actually plays out. First of all... I am not into chastity and only use it when I feel there is a need to bring someone through 'his' need or fantasy or whatever. I hear far more men talking chastity than I do dominant women that I know. How can you expect that your own view on chastity and how men don't really want it or couldn't really want it for longer periods of time than you are able to invision... is rather like saying, everyone is like you are. So what you are basically saying without realizing it is that most the chastity devices are purchased becasue a dominant woman want's them bought and used. How many men own these devices, hoping and waiting to find someone to order them put into them and how many are there that will wear them without a keyholder or order? I have known very many!

Kita -> RE: Chastity Devices (1/15/2009 2:08:44 PM)
quote: azjojoba wrote: I can definitely see the fun in that for a session, but I can't see it for days or weeks. Each to their own though, but I jthink there are many more dommes who want to do this then men. It's one of those unfulfilled female fantasies. You know, before I knew beeble the only employ of chastity devices I knew about was women who wanted to lock away the cock and pretend it wasn't there. They wanted to desexualize the man and turn him into... something else, probably feminize him or something, I guess. Now if that was what tripped their trigger then that's fine and dandy, but I had no interest in that at all. I wanted any cock I was involved with to be hard and achy and wanting to come all the time I admit that I didn't look into chastity devices prior to him. It wasn't my kink or desire. I love frustration and I love somebody not touching themselves because I told them not to. beeble has control and dedication and a degree of obedience that awes me because even if he's not locked away from himself I know he won't touch what belongs to me. So in our case, at least, we went into this the exact opposite way of what you're thinking. He presented it to me as something he was curious about and, after 6 months of being in a relationship with him and knowing him and his obedience to my desires, he was put in one. It's was a massive psychological leap (and I am very into playing with healthy brains) for him to know that his obedience would keep him from taking it off and that he wanted and needed to give himself to me to use as I wished whether it be for pain or pleasure. I've never had to doubt for a second that he's ever lied to me about taking it off or anything of the sort, even though he has one key (which he wants to give to me, but being 4200 miles apart that's not practical at all.) I think some femdoms get off on locking cock away from boys who don't want it locked away and then there's this constant struggle for control. I wouldn't put anyone in one who didn't want it to some degree because I don't want there to be this tension about obedience and unhappiness. I don't want a boy who I have to wonder if he's secretly trying to get out of it, or has gotten out of it. The lack of obedience, commitment and trust would pretty much render the 'relationship' pointless IMO. I personally don't think it'd do much for me for a session. Having somebody in a cb for a couple hours and telling them I own their cock and teasing them about how they aren't allowed to get hard or touch themselves or have pleasure and then taking it off? Well, that would feel kinda silly to me since then he could have all of those. Denying somebody a hard cock that 'all the other boys' have whenever they want, however they want, who get to come if they like? That's hot. I think for a session would be more of a T&D roleplay in my world, and I'm not much for role play. I handle him all the time and I like that even simple things that would make an uncaged boy's cock perk up a bit serve to remind him that he's owned and that that part of his body no longer belongs to him because he gave it to me, lock and key. Edited because I can't count, apparently :)

underskin -> RE: Chastity Devices (1/17/2009 8:39:04 AM)
I personally own a cb6000. It took a few tries to get the right comination of the pins and rings. But I must say it is comfortable after you get it right. AS for the plastic part, I believe that it is made from polycarbonate. That is stronger then plastic. I am probably average in terms of length and girth. As for seeing it under clothes. I have worn it under jeans all the time. You cannot wear skin tight jeans but I am a stockier fellow so no worried there. LOL. But it doesn can a bit of getting used to when you sit down. Don't want to sit on your balls. LOL. But other then that it is great. I have even worn it to thte gym to go to dpin class in. I wore some compression shorts in order to keep things from moving around and more in to the body. But no ill effects of working out with it. So yes it is a good device for me.

beeble -> RE: Chastity Devices (1/17/2009 8:44:58 AM)
quote: underskin wrot: AS for the plastic part, I believe that it is made from polycarbonate. That is stronger then plastic. It is polycarbonate, which is actually a kind of plastic. But, yes, it is very strong and durable: CDs are made of the same stuff, for example. beeble.

pinnipedster -> RE: Chastity Devices (1/17/2009 9:02:50 AM)
I've tried wearing the cb2000 and it doesn't work well for me....anatomic issues. Also I didn't like the bulk, though it wasn't really a problem under normal clothing. (And it serves as a reminder that you're wearing it, which can be a bit of a plus.) My own fantasies mainly deal with chastity devices as part of a long-term feminization thing. I imagine being locked in a belt that also acts as a gaff, to keep things smooth down there, and of course also forces me to sit to pee. In the intense version, I also imagine that I am only released from it when I am bound and blindfolded, so that I never touch or even see my own cock. Doubt I'll ever actually experience anything like this, but hey, you gotta have fantasies. :)

beeble -> RE: Chastity Devices (1/17/2009 9:07:49 AM)
quote: pinnipedster wrote: I've tried wearing the cb2000 and it doesn't work well for me....anatomic issues. Depending on what the anatomical issues were, one of the later CBs might work better for you. quote: Also I didn't like the bulk, though it wasn't really a problem under normal clothing. (And it serves as a reminder that you're wearing it, which can be a bit of a plus.) They are a little bulky, yes. You'd probably want to be wearing briefs, rather than boxers, to give it a bit more support. beeble

harrywazoo -> RE: Chastity Devices (1/17/2009 11:29:20 AM)
I had a cb2000 and found the fit was not good and I couldn't wear it for more than a few days. I now have a cb6000 which is more comfortable. I don't have a Keyholder so I really don't wear it that much, but hopefully one day..... As a practical matter, I don't think long term denial is feasible or even desirable because after long term denial you can lose interest in sex altogether. I would envision using the device not as THE tool but a tool to promote the control of the male orgasm by a Domme, which I personally consider one of the fundamental elements of a Female Dominant Relationship. Ideally this would be in a live in situation where the device would be removed from time to time (and the sub under observance by the Domme to ensure there are no transgressions), for cleaning purposes, teasing, edging, etc. Male chastity should be as much a psychological element as a physical - simply knowing my release is at the total discresion of my Domme and Her using that to further bond our realtionship and ensure I am always ready to please Her as She desires.

beeble -> RE: Chastity Devices (1/17/2009 4:32:13 PM)
quote: harrywazoo wrote: I don't have a Keyholder so I really don't wear it that much, but hopefully one day..... Best of luck in your search! Until you find somebody, be creative! Put the CB on and, each day, roll a die. If it's a five or a six, you can take the CB off; otherwise, it stays on for another day. If you get to take the CB off, roll the die again: that's how many times you have to edge yourself. On the last edge, roll the die again. Unless it's a one or a two, you get to come. On average, that'll let you out every three days and let you come every four or five, though there's still a roughly 17% chance of not being allowed to come for a week and a roughly 3% chance of not being allowed for two weeks. quote: As a practical matter, I don't think long term denial is feasible or even desirable because after long term denial you can lose interest in sex altogether. I don't see the point of `lock it up and throw away the key' chastity, as well as suspecting that it's medically unadvisable. Where's the fun for the Domme in pretending that the guy just doesn't have a cock? beeble.

jonathan -> RE: Chastity Devices (1/17/2009 9:15:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Usako I did a mini search but the only topic I found was from 06 so I decided to try making a new 09 one to get some feedback. I want to learn more about male chastity. And websites that discuss the different use of devices as well as how they function in day-to-day life. How the men react to it, how well they work under clothing, how long they can actually be worn, etc. And perhaps any book titles to look for as back up. http://www.extremerestraints.com/the-cb6000-male-chastity-device_2125.html I know that's the fancy, expensive one but is it really the best? I don't like how it's totally plastic, I was more interested in something you could still touch the skin through. http://www.extremerestraints.com/stallion-guard_9.html This is more something I'd be interested in. The reviews are good but say one can get out of it. Any other recommendations (preferably not expensive nor with any piercings) would be loved. I'm mainly just looking for info or where to find the info but any real life experiences would help too. Google leads you to porn too often when you look for BDSM. And the sex shop sites are ok, but I was wanting to hear actual feedback from current BDSMers. Any "home made" chastity ideas are welcomed as well. What a pain, every time that i verify a link, boom, this page is gone. Why are we still talking about this? CB products, except for the 6000, are not for the pierced. A more or less closed tube is why. If we are really that large, get a Curve. Worked for me until i got the frenum. Some are meant to wear steel, the rest just have to cope. And don't dismss Ms. Lori, there is a new product line that does not require piercings. i like 'em. Link time: http://www.neosteel.de/Nsepmain.htm http://www.chastitytube.com/ http://www.phoenixchastity.com/home.html http://www.chastity-uk.co.uk/links2.htm http://users.pandora.be/carrara/carrara/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cb-3000 Have fun, campers. i love my CB-6000, it accomodates my 3-rung frenum ladder well, just looking for Someone to give me the excuse to buy steel. Go for the Carrera, sweet design. Neosteel for lighter weight. Lady Jester's site at chastity-uk for expierence, also the Yahoo group. Phoenix Chastity is a New Zealand company, similiar stuff to CB, but i think a better design. i like the Talisman.

chastecuckoldsub -> RE: Chastity Devices (1/18/2009 1:26:28 PM)
You raised several good points. I think many men are not really prepared for what "long term" really would be like. My girlfriend is the one that introduced me to chastity. For her, it is a HUGE turnon to own me this way. I never thought I would be in such a relationship, but it has many wonderful benefits too, especially to the dominant. When I first began, I wanted to see (mostly out of ego) how long I could last. I went over 30 days. The first week was really agony. I mean, I was not sleeping well and constantly horny. But about week three, you are right, your sex drive somehow tunes down and that urgency goes away. We found that no more than two weeks tops should go by until I am allowed to cum, and usually at least once a week. Mostly chastity is mental bondage. I am reminded every moment that I am owned and it is a deeply intimate unspoke acknowlegment of my sincere submission to my girlfriend. In addition, chastity has redirected my thinkings from admittedly selfish sexual thinkings and focused it onto considering her needs and pleasures. For me, my pleasure now really comes in providing her pleasure and knowing that I am making and keeping her happy, sexual and othewise. The intensity of the relationship is fantastic and my devotion to her I feel so much more potent than mere words would convey alone. She is the keyholder of my cock and balls, and I would not have it any way. Than all said, what you wrote many men and women need to be realistic about in this kind of relationship. There is hygeine issues. A man should be allowed (watched if not trusted) to wash every day. Chaffing can be an issue too and baby oil maybe needed, especially when being broken into for the first time. There are also clothing considerations. Tight pants, will definitely reveal the worn device if not careful. Also, if traveling, no metal locks but the number plastic "locks" should be used (unless it really is your goal to set off a metal detector!). I have found that being locked up without release for about a week or so without cumming keeps me more horny actually. After that, I agree the body starts to adapt and the sexual tenstion wanes off. When I am milked or allowed to cum, it is that more special and intense, and this kind of bondage can be combined with different types of play. Over time now, I have been trained to actually cum through anal stimulation, something I would never have thought possible or believed if told, let alone believing I would be into with any woman. Such chastity training has really molded me and opened my mind and made me truly embrace true submission whereas before I really was being selfish and not genuine as a submissive. For me now, this is about her and doing it for her and having come to love and crave it for her pleasure. It can be incredibly intense and intimate between a couple if done right and realistically. As for the cb2000, it is a tigher fitting cage. The cb3000 is a bit more loser than the cb6000, which for me fits snugly. But it takes a bit more time perhaps to get used to wearing. I am not a large guy, so I can see how for a larger or endowed man this would be hard. I know a couple of men that cannot fit into the cb6000 or cb3000 because their size is too large even when flacid. But I think most men could fit into a cb3000 well. quote: ORIGINAL: Lockit I am told that the cb6000 isn't the best one for those men who are large. I was told it was smaller than the cb3000 and less comfortable for the larger cock. You can look at the sites that sell them and look for reviews of them. I found you can get a lot of information from the men actually wearing them, all in one shot. I have only seen the cb3000 in person and in use. I won't use a chastity for long term use for a couple of reasons. One, unless the man is being milked, it isn't healthy and could risk cancer. Then there is an aspect of men losing desire for sex altogether and not being able to perform if they are in constant chastity. You can do a search right here at CM where people talk of some form of these things. Have you ever seen a Kali's teeth? lol Just showing a submissive one of these brought up lots of interesting responses! lol http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kali's_teeth_bracelet http://www.stockroom.com/Kalis-Teeth-Chastity-Device---Advanced-P3260.aspx Wicked lil thing! lol

hardbodysub -> RE: Chastity Devices (1/18/2009 5:42:19 PM)
Thanks for those links! I had not heard of the phoenix/sapphire one before.

azjojoba -> RE: Chastity Devices (1/19/2009 12:24:37 AM)
It seems to me that there would be serious health issues wearing one of these things. Jock itch, fungus, rashes, and prostate problems just to name a few. Also in some men's bathrooms having to sit to pee would be bad since the toilet seats are so often covered with pee from misses. Yuck! I actually see no use for women who want to de-sexualize men, but of course everybody is different -- if a man doesn't want his sex they are a perfect pair. I make no judgements even though I don't understand this one. Many women are afraid of their own sexuality so I can understand why they would think it's a cool idea. They fear having orgasms so making their men chaste is one way to deal with their own fears. I also think men that would want to wear one of these things would be happy being Catholic priests, which is OK by me but not very natural. Women who find men that will do this should be very careful with these men. They are probably perverts of some kind and could be dangerous.

pinnipedster -> RE: Chastity Devices (1/19/2009 12:40:42 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: beeble quote: pinnipedster wrote: I've tried wearing the cb2000 and it doesn't work well for me....anatomic issues. Depending on what the anatomical issues were, one of the later CBs might work better for you. Frankly, my scrotum doesn't hang very low most of the time. quote: quote: Also I didn't like the bulk, though it wasn't really a problem under normal clothing. (And it serves as a reminder that you're wearing it, which can be a bit of a plus.) They are a little bulky, yes. You'd probably want to be wearing briefs, rather than boxers, to give it a bit more support. I did wear briefs at the time. Since then I've discovered the joys of boxer briefs and wear those more often; not sure how well they'd work. Probably somewhere in between. As for the "why" I agree that keeping a man locked up all the time for months on end would not generally be a good thing or very effective. For me, these days, as an older guy, I sometimes can go a while without getting sexually excited anyway (whereas 20 years ago....) What I would imagine is a program where I was let out once or twice a week at least briefly for hygienic purposes (cleaning and, if to the taste of the Domme, shaving) and usually allowed to ejaculate somewhere between once and twice a month, adjusted for training purposes. I also imagine a good deal of deliberate teasing/arousal behavior while the device is on. I also imagine the woman removing the device and getting me good and aroused without telling me ahead of time if she's going to allow me to come or not before replacing it....all that kind of thing. If a woman gets off on teasing/denial scenarios, the possibilities seem endless. Using it strictly as punishment would require a different approach. beeble

beeble -> RE: Chastity Devices (1/19/2009 1:57:57 AM)
quote: azjojoba wrote: They are probably perverts of some kind OH MY GOD!!! PERVERTS?!?!? ON THIS SITE?!?!??! SAY IT AIN'T SO!!!!! beeble.

azjojoba -> RE: Chastity Devices (1/19/2009 2:20:39 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lockit I hear far more men talking chastity than I do dominant women that I know. How can you expect that your own view on chastity and how men don't really want it or couldn't really want it for longer periods of time than you are able to invision... is rather like saying, everyone is like you are. So what you are basically saying without realizing it is that most the chastity devices are purchased becasue a dominant woman want's them bought and used. How many men own these devices, hoping and waiting to find someone to order them put into them and how many are there that will wear them without a keyholder or order? I have known very many! Sure, a lot of men talk about chastity because they think that's what dommes want to hear. I believe you that subs bring a chastity device to you for kinky play, but not to wear all the time. Especially for young men these devices would be a very bad idea, and it could hurt them sexually for the rest of their lives. Why would a responsible woman want to do something that risky, and why would a man allow it? I can see women wearing chastity devices because many of them can do with sex for a long time, but even then there hygiene would be a very dangerous thing to deal with.

CdnExplorer -> RE: Chastity Devices (1/19/2009 3:37:09 AM)
There are ways of dealing with the hygiene issues you know. It isn't about desexualizing a guy either. I know a guy who is wearing a cb2000 for the entire year (it went on New Year's Eve). He'll get 24 orgasms for the year, plus however many extra he earns from his domme. This isn't some online thing either, I know her personally and have stayed in her home. The wonders of high pressure water and body wash handle the cleanliness problem. Here's the thing, because the chastity thing is a big turn on for her...it makes her want him. It's only desexualizing if there is a lack of sexual attention. I agree that there can be issues stemming from this type of play. I did a stint of orgasm control / denial years ago, based on willpower, where the experience ended badly. There was a lack of attention for a long while and it did mess with my ability to get aroused, but I recovered from that. In a real relationship a woman who is responsible, and dare I say loves her submissive, can be aware of that and provide the required attention. A man would allow it because it makes him horny and gets his domme off. It's certainly far less dangerous than many of the other things we do in the lifestyle.

azjojoba -> RE: Chastity Devices (1/20/2009 4:25:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: CdnExplorer There are ways of dealing with the hygiene issues you know. It isn't about desexualizing a guy either. I know a guy who is wearing a cb2000 for the entire year (it went on New Year's Eve). He'll get 24 orgasms for the year, plus however many extra he earns from his domme. This isn't some online thing either, I know her personally and have stayed in her home. The wonders of high pressure water and body wash handle the cleanliness problem. Here's the thing, because the chastity thing is a big turn on for her...it makes her want him. It's only desexualizing if there is a lack of sexual attention. I agree that there can be issues stemming from this type of play. I did a stint of orgasm control / denial years ago, based on willpower, where the experience ended badly. There was a lack of attention for a long while and it did mess with my ability to get aroused, but I recovered from that. In a real relationship a woman who is responsible, and dare I say loves her submissive, can be aware of that and provide the required attention. A man would allow it because it makes him horny and gets his domme off. It's certainly far less dangerous than many of the other things we do in the lifestyle. 24 orgasms isn't bad -- it's more than I get from my wife!

Lockit -> RE: Chastity Devices (1/20/2009 5:06:33 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: azjojoba quote: ORIGINAL: Lockit I hear far more men talking chastity than I do dominant women that I know. How can you expect that your own view on chastity and how men don't really want it or couldn't really want it for longer periods of time than you are able to invision... is rather like saying, everyone is like you are. So what you are basically saying without realizing it is that most the chastity devices are purchased becasue a dominant woman want's them bought and used. How many men own these devices, hoping and waiting to find someone to order them put into them and how many are there that will wear them without a keyholder or order? I have known very many! Sure, a lot of men talk about chastity because they think that's what dommes want to hear. I believe you that subs bring a chastity device to you for kinky play, but not to wear all the time. Especially for young men these devices would be a very bad idea, and it could hurt them sexually for the rest of their lives. Why would a responsible woman want to do something that risky, and why would a man allow it? I can see women wearing chastity devices because many of them can do with sex for a long time, but even then there hygiene would be a very dangerous thing to deal with. I feel that long term use of a chastity device could be dangerous in different ways if not done properly... I do not do long term chastity in any form. In fact I rarely use it. But... and that is a big BUT... your take on all of this is so far from anything I can see, imagine or agree with, that I don't know where you get all this opinion... but it really doesn't matter to me. Basically you have some real attitudes in my opinion. Women want men in chastity because they are afraid of orgasm's???? Where the hell do you get that? Opinion... Nothing more. I don't know what women in your world are like... but this woman and most she knows, love their orgasm. As for keeping a man clean while in chastity, it isn't hard to do if one bathes. All it takes is a little research and common sense. You don't have to like chastity... you don't have to agree with it, but your opinions don't seem to line up with how most think or feel. As for men who like chastity... how can you say they are dangerous or could be? Where do you get your data?

rob425 -> RE: Chastity Devices (1/20/2009 8:15:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lockit I feel that long term use of a chastity device could be dangerous in different ways if not done properly... I do not do long term chastity in any form. In fact I rarely use it. But... and that is a big BUT... your take on all of this is so far from anything I can see, imagine or agree with, that I don't know where you get all this opinion... but it really doesn't matter to me. Basically you have some real attitudes in my opinion. Women want men in chastity because they are afraid of orgasm's???? Where the hell do you get that? Opinion... Nothing more. I don't know what women in your world are like... but this woman and most she knows, love their orgasm. As for keeping a man clean while in chastity, it isn't hard to do if one bathes. All it takes is a little research and common sense. You don't have to like chastity... you don't have to agree with it, but your opinions don't seem to line up with how most think or feel. As for men who like chastity... how can you say they are dangerous or could be? Where do you get your data? Thank you Lockit, I am not a fan of someone stating opinion liked its fact. Long term chasitycleaning wise can be easily done. I used a shower massager to get into the device to be extra clean. Also I soak it in a soup solution which is pretty much just the average body wash and mixed with water. And I have been very clean. -------------------------------------------------------------------- It kinda makes me think this azjojoba is afraud of what he doesn't know and would hate to have his wife find out its not as bad as he probably tells...But that is my opinion

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