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RE: Insane situation? - 1/16/2009 12:53:41 PM

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Said sub has no will, rights and cannot make decisions.

I don't know, if I wanted something like this, I'd go chain a muffin in the basement.

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RE: Insane situation? - 1/16/2009 12:56:26 PM

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What would your personal concerns with such a situation be?

Sweet FA.

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If both people had given consent for such a situation and fully looked at the risks involved etc would you deem them insane for going ahead?

No.

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Would you call such a situation extreme?

Not a tad.

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Would you even consider such a situation possible?

Based on the info you gave? There is no answer. There are too many sides to consider. If everything is covered the answer would be yes. If not, then no, it wouldn't be practical.

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RE: Insane situation? - 1/16/2009 1:02:44 PM

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Using fast reply........

What many people are not considering is something like this. Example my basement. I could, with a 15 foot length of chain, chain someone within reach of the following.

Water
Toilet
Door to the out doors in case of emergency
Very comfy king sized bed
View to a beautiful valley and my horse pasture
Three pieces of exercise equipment
Both dirty and, usually, clean laundry waiting to be put away.
and.......given the feline that resides in my house.....a large supply of cat food (not that I, or the cat, wants a slave eating it but.......)
Not to mention, with the pellet stove blasting away like it has been lately, the basement is the coziest place in the house.

Not all basements are damp, dark, dangerous, scary places.

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RE: Insane situation? - 1/16/2009 1:03:43 PM

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i've never heard of anyone doing this sort of thing without first making safety provisions. Usually the key is placed within reach, inside of something like a sealed envelope. (if the sub unlocks themselves for a reason other than an emergency...the breaking of the seal makes it evident) There are also phones within reach, and access to alarm systems etc.

Being chained doesn't mean one is held completely without any concerns for their safety and well being. i think it's odd that so many seem to automatically assume it does.

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RE: Insane situation? - 1/16/2009 1:03:46 PM

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Extreme? That would depend on the condition of the basement, the emotional and physical health of the slave and owner to begin with, the safety measures, the length of time, etc.

Yes of course its possible. I would definitely make sure that safety measures are adequate, such as the slave having access to cell and/or ground line phones, keys to anything locked, and an ax and hacksaw in case of emergency. And I would not leave the slave down there alone all night, that's too long of a time period to go without checking on them. If it were me I would only chain the slave by one ankle, for safety and comfort as well.

The basement could have its own bathroom, a good sound system and cable TV, a comfortable bed, plants, wall to wall carpet and/ or nice flooring...heck some of the best times of my life have been spent in basements that were similarly decked out.

The basement was THE place to be in the whole huge house, when we were kids... It was spacious and inviting. We played endless games down there, it did have its own bathroom and everything you'd want for a comfy hangout...

Have you seen that 70's show?

I haven't seen the other thread but come on, the slave might have a chain long enough to move freely around the entire basement, and there could be a bathroom and mini refrigerator, etc.- All the amenities. Go ahead, chain me down there with a good pile of books to read, high speed internet and a remote for the cable TV, and some exercise equipment, while you go pay the bills for a while. Thats not torture, but I'll act miffed if you want me to.

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RE: Insane situation? - 1/16/2009 1:19:20 PM

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I can pay rent.

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RE: Insane situation? - 1/16/2009 1:23:06 PM

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I think the sub is in need of serious help... the dom is a lowlife to take advantage of the subs mental state. I know I will get a lot of flack for saying this...but at least to me this situation is not or should not be part of the lifestyle. Both of them have problems that need to be addressed before it they participate in an arrangement.

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RE: Insane situation? - 1/16/2009 1:33:55 PM

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I suppose it depends on the situation. If it's a nice big basement with a bathroom and a phone and a treadmill and some entertainment/mental stimulation, and the chain's long enough for them to walk around the room, I wouldn't think it was insane. A little extreme or unusual maybe, and a pain in the butt for the Dom, but not insane. But I don't think that's what people generally mean by that fantasy....

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RE: Insane situation? - 1/16/2009 1:49:00 PM

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I can pay rent.

Cool! Before this thread is over I will have a whole harem down there!

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RE: Insane situation? - 1/16/2009 2:06:28 PM

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What would your personal concerns with such a situation be?

If both people had given consent for such a situation and fully looked at the risks involved etc would you deem them insane for going ahead?

Would you call such a situation extreme?

Would you even consider such a situation possible?

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1.I would not consider a situation like this
2.Not insane,but def have issues
3.Yes,any sub that would submit to that type of treatment is on the extreme end of a degradation fetish
4.Yes,it's possible.Many abused kids have been found in the same type of environment.

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RE: Insane situation? - 1/16/2009 2:55:29 PM

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

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I can pay rent.

Cool! Before this thread is over I will have a whole harem down there!

TMI.....*nervous* mine would never be able to accomodate that many guests....
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RE: Insane situation? - 1/16/2009 3:14:33 PM

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What would your personal concerns with such a situation be?

I need to be surrounded by people in my life - friends, family. I wouldn't be healthy psychologically if removed from society in this way. I'd be bored to tears. As far as physically, it doesn't appeal at all, unless it's like LadyT's basement.

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If both people had given consent for such a situation and fully looked at the risks involved etc would you deem them insane for going ahead?

I agree with RedMagic - there's something off about someone wanting to be removed from life in this way. You don't mention the time period that is agreed upon, so I assume it is indefinite.

Also, this reminds me of the movie Castaway with Tom Hanks. The dom would become like Wilson, the volleyball, did to Hanks' character - she'd become so incredibly dependent upon that one person for everything in her life, and I just don't view that as healthy.

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Would you call such a situation extreme?

Yep.

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Would you even consider such a situation possible?

Yep.

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RE: Insane situation? - 1/16/2009 3:19:03 PM

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If both people had given consent for such a situation and fully looked at the risks involved etc would you deem them insane for going ahead?

Nope, not insane.

Would you call such a situation extreme?

Yeah.

Would you even consider such a situation possible?

Yes, if all sorts of outside world interferences and possible things had been accounted for.

Actually it sounds like a lot of fun and pretty damn hot. I don't think I'd want to do it forever but if someone did, then that's their choice. In my scenario it would get boring pretty fast if all they did was live in the basement and never leave. If I could go down and beat them periodically that would make it less boring. Who am I to say if it's insane or not, considering some of my desires. I personally don't believe people should live like that, I think we should have greater goals in life and actually accomplish things, but if someone really wants to I'm not going to say they shouldn't or are wrong.

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RE: Insane situation? - 1/16/2009 3:21:44 PM

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To me leaving anyone bound or in insolation for very long periods is unhealthy. Assuming the Dominant has to leave the house at some point the sub would be helpless should anything happen and I can't help but think it is mentally and emotionally unhealthy for both parties to go to this extreme. My favorite thing is to bind a slave in the back of my closet and this dosen't even sound good to me!

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RE: Insane situation? - 1/16/2009 3:50:06 PM

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Someone did mention the idea of a key being accessible to the sub but in a sealed envelope so tampering would be obvious. With that precaution I would think the situation would be okay for a limited period of time. Without that I feel there would be serious safety issues. Aside from the house catching on fire what if the sub became injured? A simple cut could become a serious issue if the sub had nothing to bandage it with.

Personaly I would no engage in such an arrangement for any extended term. I feel sorry for dogs that I see chained out in their yards all day when no one pays attention to them.

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RE: Insane situation? - 1/16/2009 3:55:04 PM

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What would your personal concerns with such a situation be?
****None, as I'd not consent to such a situation on either side of the kneel. As a theoretical matter, I would be concerned about the overall timeframe of said experiment/scenario/whatever one wishes to call it; I would think it reasonable to have a finite timespan if undertaken. Long-term natural light deprivation will lead to physical and mental health issues. It is not clear of the D-type would be in the house at all times; I have grave concerns about the person being left unattended.

If both people had given consent for such a situation and fully looked at the risks involved etc would you deem them insane for going ahead?
****I don't think I have adequate information to make that call. Certainly not my cup of tea but that doesn't make it inherently insane.

Would you call such a situation extreme?
****What information I have strikes me as an extreme scenario but more information would help with a clearer determination

Would you even consider such a situation possible?
****Sure, people have been holed up places for years and years, though I can't say I've heard of one where consent was involved. If a person consented to such a scenario for a long-term (Going to throw out a timeframe here: over a month), I would look waaaaaaaaaaaay askance at it (And, tuly, at even less than a month, it doesn't thrill me on a number of levels). That having been said, if someone wants to be chained up in a basement and another wishes to be their keeper, as long as the effects of that don't become a burden on the system, I'm not sure that I particularly care.

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RE: Insane situation? - 1/16/2009 4:00:35 PM

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I can pay rent.

Cool! Before this thread is over I will have a whole harem down there!

TMI.....*nervous* mine would never be able to accomodate that many guests....
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RE: Insane situation? - 1/16/2009 4:32:52 PM

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What would your personal concerns with such a situation be?

If would need to know more information about the specific situation before I knew whether it was any of my business. Most importantly, as others have pointed out, how long are we talking here? A week? Indefinitely? Permanently?

If both people had given consent for such a situation and fully looked at the risks involved etc would you deem them insane for going ahead?

Well, if it was a permanent situation, I would consider it a little bit nuts I suppose. Because no, that's just not healthy.

But if you're talking about anything from indefinitely up to a few weeks, no, I wouldn't. I've lived under somewhat similar circumstances, and the only thing I regret about it is that I'm no longer in such a relationship. Again, though, I can't really evaluate the issue objectively without knowing more about the conditions of the confinement. But in principle, no, anything short of permanent captivity would not necessarily be insane.

Would you call such a situation extreme?

Sure. But there's nothing wrong with extreme. Extreme's fun. Extreme's hot. Extreme is good.

Would you even consider such a situation possible?

Again, how long we talkin' here? Forever and ever amen? I supppose it's possible, but not really practical. Lesser periods, for weeks or even momths, sure - it's both possible and practical.

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RE: Insane situation? - 1/16/2009 4:41:17 PM

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It is not something I would ever consider doing...I need human contact on a regular basis. I think it could be harmful to the mental state of the chained person. Even a plush, beautiful basement with nice cozy things would become mundane after awhile. I would resent not being able to be social with anyone other than my Master. A big part of my submissiveness is wanting to wait on and do things for Him~~I couldn't do that chained aways from Him. I try really hard not to judge another's kink, if it is consenting and is what they BOTH want, fine. But for me...no.

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RE: Insane situation? - 1/16/2009 4:51:49 PM

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In a similiar message I recieved the slave might have axcess to food and water if the owners felt like doing so. The slave may or may not recieve medical care if needed, it was expected for the slave to suffer mental dissorders from long term isolation, locked cage in a locked room for weeks too months. And so on.

I believe this is a waste of life, if one was to agree to such a life I feel it better to donate their body to science, to donate their organs and blood to someone who would like to live. But to those who would agree then my hats off to you, enjoy, and if nothing else I will rest sound knowing you will not have the option to breed and pollute the world with more waste.

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