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RE: Any good roleplay rape experiences? - 1/17/2009 11:32:00 AM   
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As the 'victim' in such a roleplay, you ought to be heavily, heavily comfortable in areas of physical manipulation, pain threshold and plain and simple self-understanding if you plan to do this in any interaction that is casual and not already built on a relationship of utmost trust.

Maybe people have had experiences go well with situation where limits and parameters were set beforehand...but that, to me, seems kind of pointless to the point of the act. the intent is to suffer a complete loss of control. The limits shouldn't lie in predetermined physical barriers...which is why I say that it's best approached if you (as the victim) have very high limits (emotionally, sexually and pain-oriented). Or you approach this roleplay with someone you already have a sufficiently devout trust in that you'd happily obey them in the first place (in which case, the rape play is just a carnal, aggressive physical and sexual manifestation of that dynamic).

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RE: Any good roleplay rape experiences? - 1/17/2009 12:22:20 PM   
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I can definately see both sides of the coin... wanting the 'raper' to be someone new to your face to face life to add an element of reality to the situation... as well as for the 'raper' to be someone you know well and trust, for both physical and emotional safety reasons... both make complete sense...

Personally I would not be willing to play the role of a 'raper' with someone I didn't know thoroughly nor would I be willing to do it as a first sexual experience with the person. I would be too concerned that the experinece wouldn't digest well and there would be someone walking around viewing me as an actual raper.

Personally, after playing the role of a 'raper', I would need to offer extensive aftercare to ensure the experience was taken well and to help that happen...

I agree wholeheartedly with the above opinions that one should know themselves very well, be very solid in their self acceptance... and to add, I doubt it would be a good idea for someone who had actually been raped to try this with someone new (maybe even not with someone familiar)...

All in all... I feel rape is such an intense reality I wouldn't be comfortable enacting it too realisticly... but maybe I'm just being a softy...

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RE: Any good roleplay rape experiences? - 1/17/2009 3:45:26 PM   
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ORIGINAL: rednicky

I actually haven't read any real ones...ever. It's a fantasy I would really like to try one day but I want to hear some good experiences from people. Like how women deal with the clenching so they don't get hurt. Since it's a popular fantasy, If people wouldn't mind posting their stories and telling how they managed to do it without too much difficulty, I would really appreciate it.

i have been hurt bad in a non-consensual situation...i would say it was sexual assault. i hurt, felt filthy and demoralised and ashamed....so there's a total distinction inside my head/body. Even as one who defines myself as slave, there still remains a clear diseinction. Indeed i have a vary clear understanding of what, when and how i consent. i have also been date raped and taken years to recall that because of drugs so rape does not figure in my fantasies. Neing taken in rough sex does but the fantasy is always with the person i choose so that's not rape..........


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RE: Any good roleplay rape experiences? - 1/17/2009 8:15:00 PM   
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I did a rape scene with a Master not long after we began scening together. I think it was the third or fourth time we were meeting in person, though we had extensive online contact. In the scenario I was to be "sleeping" in a hotel room, resting before giving a professional presentation, so I was wearing business clothing as I napped on the bed. The only things I knew ahead of time were the instructions I'd been given as to how to set up the room, that my outfit had to be disposable, and that I would be permitted to see, speak and fight back (if I wished). Usually we play without safewords and I am not allowed to see nor speak to him unless he gives explicit permission, which he almost never does.

I arrived more than two hours early and set up the room, which involved laying out all of the toys and having cold beer and water ready. I was not sure exactly when he would arrive, so I had to be prepared in case he was early. I lay down on the bed fully clothed, and actually did doze off, so I didn't hear him when he quietly let himself into the room and took up the rope. The next thing I knew, I was being hogtied, blindfolded and gagged and my clothes were being cut off.

It was an incredible scene which lasted four hours and is on the top of my all-time greatest hits list.  And I'd expected to fight back, but as soon as I felt his hands and that knife, I melted right into subspace and did whatever he wished.


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RE: Any good roleplay rape experiences? - 1/18/2009 6:08:33 AM   
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I've never participated in anything of the sorts. I will admit to having fantasized about being gang-raped by females wearing strapons, but doubt if I could handle such abuse in RT. I guess to have it be realistic, the participants would have to be people that I don't know, and supervised "silently" by someone I do, and trust. 

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RE: Any good roleplay rape experiences? - 1/18/2009 7:56:45 AM   
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This is a very, VERY sensitive area.

So let us begin with a few boundaries.

First, IMNSHO Non-Consentual Attacks (NCA) should be met with ripping off the offending article of the attacker, popping it in a glass of bleach, microwaving it on high for ... oh, say 5 minutes, then grinding the remnants up and making the - by now, I should think QUITE-sorry - attacker eat it.

Yes, I DO have a sadistic streak. What gave it away ?
It is usually reserved for those who attempt to prey on the weak.

So, if NCAs can include the R-Word, should the R-Word be used as a term for forced play ?

The important thing - and it IS an important thing - is that it is known by all parties in the Play involved that there is a universe of difference between NCA and ForcePlay.

ForcePlay, by definition starts with either violence, mock-violence or the threat of violence. The nature of the play will vary, hopefully to the mutual satisfaction of all participants. There is no reason the Play cannot end with a very different tone. Kindness, caring and comfort for the 'victim', allowing her to come back down (or back up) from the emotional experience is not excluded from the scene.

Good experience starts with exhaustive preparation, research, time and attention to detail.
During the experience (speaking as the Dominant part), you need to be in complete control of yourself, the girl, the environment and that one thing that will blindside you if you are not paying attention to situational awareness.

The 'during' above starts when you first catch sight of the girl prior to the Play starting and does not end until she is genuinely returned to her normal level of daily control and in a safe vanilla environment.

Complete control of yourself includes absolute knowledge of how much force you are exerting, where and how, at ALL times. Control of the girl means that if she becomes frightened enough to bolt (and she WILL be frightened), you can ensure she does not trip over an electrical cord, slip on tiles, stumble on the stairs ... without being in a position to break her fall, ensuring she does not get hurt.
Control of the environment means knowing who and what is around you. Remember, her safety and comfort are your priority and your responsibility.

What ?
You thought this was for your benefit ???
In this kind of play, her needs come first.

Her needs will almost ALWAYS include discretion.
Which takes us back to the environment.
Last thing either of you need is a concerned citizen calling the local constabulary.
It IS a difficult thing to explain for either of you should you have to account for it.

As for the blindsiding ...
The only way to avoid that is to stay alert.

You can stop reading now.
What follows is My worldview - or a part of it - and is not to be imposed on yours.
YMMV. YKMNNBMK.

Your milage may vary.
Your Kink may not necessarily be My Kink.
And Vice Versa.

For those of you who have read My profile, you will be aware of My feelings on the matter. One part of My kink - Only One ... - involves forced play. And yes, this is requested a number of times a year by differing women.

I offer a Request-Only service.
I am not even sure if the word 'service' is appropriate. Let us say that I have the profile as shown, and let any who are interested approach Me.

The paradox is this; for the scene to work, it must be realistic. To be realistic, it must be believeable. To be believeable, there must be a sense of complete lack of control on the part of the "victim".

And right there is the crux.
There must be a sense of complete lack of control.
The girl must feel that she is powerless or else she will feel she is co-operating.

Is the girl in control of whether this happens ?
Absolutely.
Does the girl outline her limits and hard boundaries ?
Clearly and unambiguously.
Does the girl have control of what is happening during the Play ?
No. She does not.

Questions put to Me are typically;
"What happens if I try to scream ?"
"Can I fight back ?"
"What if I hurt you ?"

My answer is typically a paraphrase of;
"Do you need this to feel real ?"

If the answer is No, then they are looking for Rough Sex and that is a different matter. The Interview - I'll get to that in a minute - ends then and there and I advise the girl in question along other lines.

If the answer is Yes, then;
"Yes, you can try to scream ... fight back too, if it seems right for you at the time. As for hurting Me, if you need this to feel as if it is real then you need to be able to feel that you must do what you have to ... so, by all means, try."

So back to the whole believable issue.
Some girls contact Me and request that we get to know one another over coffee / drinks / vanilla visits etc. before ANY play.
I advise them that this is unlikely to work. The simple reason is that by the time they get to know Me, as BB King would say, the thrill is gone.

Trust is absolutely essential.
For them.
For Me.
I have to trust them to not be a psycho-knife-wielding-man-hating-bunny-boiling-tranny-weightlifter called Igor (or Igora).
She has to trust that I will make her actual safety first amongst all things for as long as she is in My power.
She also has to trust that I will make her security and discretion absolute after we conclude the session.

The matter of trust then, must be made up without getting to know the WHOLE person of the "Forcer".
After all, the girl who comes looking for ForcePlay generally doesn't want the 'Forcer'. She wants the experience.
And afterwards, she will not wish to stay with the 'Forcer'.
It would diminish the intensity of the time and the experience.

She wants the experience.
She wants the memory.

Think of it like a holiday romance.
With bruises.
Or not.

Anyway, back on track. Pay attention down at the back, class. The good bit is coming.

What the girl needs to know is can she trust Me.
The answer must come from within her.
So we talk. Mails. IMs. Phone conversations. Exchange of photographs.
Well, I say exchange ... but I do not give out photos of Me.

Don't snort. Remember ?
It must feel real to work.
Part of that is the un-knowing.
Hence I could be anyone.

When she feels she is ready, we undertake an interview.
Remember the comment above ?
This is it.
The phone interview is similar to a Voight-Kampff test.
Look it up, if you feel you need to.
Don't snigger ... the guy might have been a Dick but he knew his shit.

I ask a series of questions under a number of sections. The questions are carefully screened and cross-referenced. The answers given and the manner in which the answers are given are then assessed. They allow Me to gain an understanding of the girls' state of mind and psychological strength.

Yes, I have psychological training.
No, you don't need to know from where or to what level.

Why do I need this ?
Well, let Me put it this way.
Remember Igor ?

I have not met him yet.

Bruises are not mandatory. In fact, they need to be specifically requested if required.
But they heal.
Psychological "bruising" does not mend as quickly or as well.

Let us imagine a hypothetical girl called Marigold.
Why 'Marigold' ?
Because it is unusual enough to avoid any conflict with any persona on here.
If there IS a Marigold, I apologise and blame poor research. [smiles]

Marigold has had a fantasy for years about being forced.
She has thought about it and dreamed of it.
Some long, lazy morning in bed have been improved greatly by her imaginations of it.
Some late nights, incessant tossing and turning and an inability to sleep have been quietened by thoughts of it.
Marigold, in a search to fulfill her longing, finds My profile one day.
She genuinely WANTS to know what it is like.
She feels that she really REALLY needs to know what it is like.

The thing is ... maybe she cannot handle what she thinks she is ready for.
THAT is why I developed the VK test.
It lets Me determine if it is a GO/NO GO
It lets Me determine what she needs, and how far she can go.

What I can offer is not for everyone.
It is an incredibly intense experience.

Now, we are almost at the end.
I suggest that you wait 15 minutes before you post a response.
Think again about what you are about to write.

Remember, YKINMK.
And Vice Versa.

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RE: Any good roleplay rape experiences? - 1/18/2009 8:04:21 AM   
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The only time I was forcibly made to have sex was when I lost my virginity at 18.  He took something I wasn't ready to give, but I was in a situation I could not get out of.  He didn't beat me, but he did hold my wrists so tight I was bruised.  Thinking back on what I know now and what I have learned I blamed myself for a long time for being somewhere I shouldn't have.  If someone enjoys the "rape" fantasy, that is fine with me, but it is not for me so much.  I think as long as everything is agreed upon beforehand, then there is nothing wrong with having that fantasy.  It is just not for me.  Good luck to you.

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RE: Any good roleplay rape experiences? - 1/18/2009 9:30:20 AM   
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Well blackcords, I liked the post. But you made it seem like there could only be one type of rape (i.e sneaking up on the victim, beating her in the back of the head, threatening to hurt her if she does not comply, ripping off clothes, etc...). I don't find that kind of rape appealing.

I like to think of myself as a confident, extroverted person. But when I'm around guys I like, I freeze up. Especially when flirting is involved. And I'd like an experience where someone takes advantage of my "deer-caught-in-headlights" trance. For this to happen, I would HAVE to get to know my 'attacker'. Because I've got to know him well enough for him to get close enough to even do anything without me turning into 'Igora'.

The rape I think about is that "almost ready but not quite" rape. It usually happens between girlfriends and boyfriends. You're going out with someone you really reeeaaallly like, but you're still not at that point where you're ready to go all the way. Yea you mess around. Sure you make out a bit. But you're not ready to take it all the way. And then one night, while making out, you notice that your boyfriend isn't stopping like he usually does. He's going for your jean buttons and zipper. You move to stop him but then he brushes your hand away. You start to struggle but he easily overpowers you. He's not rough. He's actually quite loving in what he's doing. And he's talking you through the entire thing. "It's okay baby. Shhhh. Yea don't cry. It's okay. I'll take care of you. You're my girl, remember?" A scene like this would require that you knew the person because it keeps you from actually ripping out his eyes and shoving them up his own ass. If the rapist is a stranger in which you have no feelings for then...well I'd feel sorry for the fella who dares cross me in that way. But if it's someone you care about somewhat, you don't really want to hurt them. You just want them to stop. You especially don't want to hurt them if they're being kind and gentle towards you during the rape, kissing you gently yet firming to muffle your yelps as he penetrates you for the first time. Still keeping your pleasure in mind. It's not like he's just sticking it in. He's trying to arouse YOU as well. Fingering, massaging boobs, giving hickies, rubbing all over.

Anyways, blackcords, you don't really mention much when it comes to this. Though your screening process is thorough and understandable, it's downright unnecessary in my case.

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RE: Any good roleplay rape experiences? - 1/18/2009 9:52:25 AM   
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And right there is the crux.
There must be a sense of complete lack of control.
The girl must feel that she is powerless or else she will feel she is co-operating.
I've thought about this too, and the best solution I've come up with is to negotiate such a forceplay scene through a third party if you are absolutely intent on attempting this.

That makes the whole thing a bit more complicated, but then maybe it ought to be.

I have had bad experiences with it myself, a certain woman would constantly try to push my buttons to get me to lose control, and it became a sort of power struggle, since if I did lose control, she would win and could play the victim - I maintained control, but needless to say, several of her other targets did not, and some paid dearly for it.

Another time, I had a new newish girlfriend come out of a blackout in the middle of sex, totally freaking out until I told her "shit girl, you seduced me!" - not the best way for a first time, that didn't last and it still bothers me.

Thing is, I had no idea at the time she was Blacked out, prone to same after drinking what I would have called at the time, a moderate amount of alcohol, and on medication for behavioral issues - this is something you should tell someone - I just avoid offering any body anything to drink at all anymore, or at least more than one, and prefer to steer clear of alcoholics in general as a personal matter, and since, w/regard to this discussion, any consent is technically withdrawn with the withdrawal of consciousness - determining that with some people isn't always easy unfortunately. If you do act drunk, I may suggest you masturbate in front of me if you're very insistent, nothing worse than a mean drunk, but I ain't touching you until we know each other a whole lot better.

As you can see, I have a gift for landing women with hidden issues, and I always worried about it after that, kinda ruined drunk sex for me.

I have, a couple of other times, back in my drinking days, come out of a Blackout myself in the middle of sex, mainly regretting I didn't remember more, so having issues myself probably didn't help, so in any case, if you're going to go to all this trouble, you ought to be able to remember it.

Just for the record, Three is my hard limit these days if the conversation is good, but I normally stop at one for the icebreaker - it does diminish your ability to accurately read body language and think everybody is your friend - or enemy, as the case may be.

It is a very touchy subject I've done some thinking and research on the subject as it has come up in various forms, including, as many women relate in here, that the real thing does not tend to bring up pleasant memories, and I have friends that have been raped, one even killed, and I resist trivializing the issue; I like the term forceplay a lot better.

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RE: Any good roleplay rape experiences? - 1/19/2009 9:21:53 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: rednicky

Well blackcords, I liked the post. But you made it seem like there could only be one type of rape (i.e sneaking up on the victim, beating her in the back of the head, threatening to hurt her if she does not comply, ripping off clothes, etc...). I don't find that kind of rape appealing.

I like to think of myself as a confident, extroverted person. But when I'm around guys I like, I freeze up. Especially when flirting is involved. And I'd like an experience where someone takes advantage of my "deer-caught-in-headlights" trance. For this to happen, I would HAVE to get to know my 'attacker'. Because I've got to know him well enough for him to get close enough to even do anything without me turning into 'Igora'.

The rape I think about is that "almost ready but not quite" rape. It usually happens between girlfriends and boyfriends. You're going out with someone you really reeeaaallly like, but you're still not at that point where you're ready to go all the way. Yea you mess around. Sure you make out a bit. But you're not ready to take it all the way. And then one night, while making out, you notice that your boyfriend isn't stopping like he usually does. He's going for your jean buttons and zipper. You move to stop him but then he brushes your hand away. You start to struggle but he easily overpowers you. He's not rough. He's actually quite loving in what he's doing. And he's talking you through the entire thing. "It's okay baby. Shhhh. Yea don't cry. It's okay. I'll take care of you. You're my girl, remember?" A scene like this would require that you knew the person because it keeps you from actually ripping out his eyes and shoving them up his own ass. If the rapist is a stranger in which you have no feelings for then...well I'd feel sorry for the fella who dares cross me in that way. But if it's someone you care about somewhat, you don't really want to hurt them. You just want them to stop. You especially don't want to hurt them if they're being kind and gentle towards you during the rape, kissing you gently yet firming to muffle your yelps as he penetrates you for the first time. Still keeping your pleasure in mind. It's not like he's just sticking it in. He's trying to arouse YOU as well. Fingering, massaging boobs, giving hickies, rubbing all over.

Anyways, blackcords, you don't really mention much when it comes to this. Though your screening process is thorough and understandable, it's downright unnecessary in my case.


rednicky, I also found blackcords post fascinating and specific to one kind of experience he is candidly explicit about. What you describe troubles me when you use the term "rape" with no qualifier, despite blackcords saying he does ForcePlay and others recoiling at the unqualified term "rape" (which, incidently is not about BDSM, nor is it about sex, it is about violence.)

It sounds like what you are looking for is not rape but what some call "role play rape" or some call "forced fantasy" or some may call "consensual non consensual acts." Words matter alot on this topic. IMHO your description casually blurs the understanding of trust and safety in what you say between him and you, perhaps intentionally to heighten the fantasized thrill, but I would suggest it would not be wise to minimize or blur those. They must be factored in mindfully, in my view.

I prefer talking about this as "role play abduction" or "role play kidnapping," and if it smooths out some hard edges to ensure trust and safety, then so be it; you can always pump it back up again by using the imagination of your mind to re-inject "danger" and "not knowing what will happen next."

Finally, it seems the fantasy you crave is done in private and not in public or semi-public and that is very very important.

Being careful ensures you can repeat your fantasy again and again. Joy!! Not being careful may ensure more danger and perhaps a never-again experience you will long regret.

you choose.



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RE: Any good roleplay rape experiences? - 1/20/2009 6:32:41 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: rednicky

I actually haven't read any real ones...ever. It's a fantasy I would really like to try one day but I want to hear some good experiences from people. Like how women deal with the clenching so they don't get hurt. Since it's a popular fantasy, If people wouldn't mind posting their stories and telling how they managed to do it without too much difficulty, I would really appreciate it.


i feel compelled to respond to this.  i was like many many others on here, raped for real.  Infact i have been raped twice.  Both were a long time ago now, but even so...

i have a wonderful Master and it is only because He knows me so well that i asked Him to help me try to get rid of my demons.  After i asked Him, he took a long while to think about it.  Wwe talked about what i was asking Him to do, which was in essence to rape me.  The reason i felt i needed it was to take back some control over situations i had no control over.  In my head, if i played this in a scene, rather than the hideousness of the real thing, then i could take back the control those evil people had over me for so many years...  The only thing Wwe wouldn't do would be to try and recreate anything similar in situation, or lead up, to what had happened to me before.  It would be purely the act itself and nothing more.

When Wwe had spoken about it enough, He agreed.  i will not go into detail here because of other folks' feelings, but it was real enough and i was genuinely scared, the most of me convinced this was real.  However, there was another smaller part of me that knew deep down i was safe.  As soon as that difference registered in my mind i started to enjoy what He was doing to me...to the point of actually having an orgasm.

i really would like to say one more thing however.  Far from me being traumatised again by what Wwe did, i felt liberated and purged.  That was on my side.  However things on His side of the fence were different and it took a while before He could look at me, let alone talk to me.  It had a powerful effect on both of Uus, in ways neither of Uus really expected, so this is not something that should ever be undertaken lightly.  i am so glad Wwe did this, but i could never have asked, or gone through with it, with anyone other than my Master.

Hope that helps?

gabrielle x

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RE: Any good roleplay rape experiences? - 1/20/2009 4:16:40 PM   
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This is my hard limit. i cannot advice you on this. I would probaby try to kill anyone trying to rape me. It is a fantasy that people do have though, and I always assume they never been through it. I glad they never have.

It is not something you would want to relieve again. I will stop here. This not a good place for my head to be

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RE: Any good roleplay rape experiences? - 1/20/2009 4:54:16 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: GabrielleSlave

quote:

ORIGINAL: rednicky

I actually haven't read any real ones...ever. It's a fantasy I would really like to try one day but I want to hear some good experiences from people. Like how women deal with the clenching so they don't get hurt. Since it's a popular fantasy, If people wouldn't mind posting their stories and telling how they managed to do it without too much difficulty, I would really appreciate it.


i feel compelled to respond to this.  i was like many many others on here, raped for real.  Infact i have been raped twice.  Both were a long time ago now, but even so...

i have a wonderful Master and it is only because He knows me so well that i asked Him to help me try to get rid of my demons.  After i asked Him, he took a long while to think about it.  Wwe talked about what i was asking Him to do, which was in essence to rape me.  The reason i felt i needed it was to take back some control over situations i had no control over.  In my head, if i played this in a scene, rather than the hideousness of the real thing, then i could take back the control those evil people had over me for so many years...  The only thing Wwe wouldn't do would be to try and recreate anything similar in situation, or lead up, to what had happened to me before.  It would be purely the act itself and nothing more.

When Wwe had spoken about it enough, He agreed.  i will not go into detail here because of other folks' feelings, but it was real enough and i was genuinely scared, the most of me convinced this was real.  However, there was another smaller part of me that knew deep down i was safe.  As soon as that difference registered in my mind i started to enjoy what He was doing to me...to the point of actually having an orgasm.

i really would like to say one more thing however.  Far from me being traumatised again by what Wwe did, i felt liberated and purged.  That was on my side.  However things on His side of the fence were different and it took a while before He could look at me, let alone talk to me.  It had a powerful effect on both of Uus, in ways neither of Uus really expected, so this is not something that should ever be undertaken lightly.  i am so glad Wwe did this, but i could never have asked, or gone through with it, with anyone other than my Master.

Hope that helps?

gabrielle x



gabrielle, I must honor your courage in doing what you did. For you, I have the strong sense that this was a very smart thing to do. Reading through your message, I was about to wonder what affect this had on your Master and then you answered that. For some reason, I instantly understood that doing this would also have a powerful affect on him, if he cared about you as you indicated. I would be interested in his words on this, if you determine it fits within this thread.

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RE: Any good roleplay rape experiences? - 1/21/2009 4:51:04 AM   
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the use of it as a "therapeutic device" is one of those things that, on one particular day, i can totally get. and then on another day, i don't get it at all.
it stands in my brain as something "fun," in this bizarre facination with weird events in my past.
which is why i don't think i'll ever talk to him about it with any seriousness.
i trust him alot, but i do'nt have any idea how either of us would react to it, and i'm not sure i trust my own judgement about it.
and some bizarre facinations should remain facinations only.
i dunno.
then of course tomorrow i'll be all "omgz this is so tewtally sumthing i wanna dew!"
fickle fickle

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RE: Any good roleplay rape experiences? - 1/22/2009 6:19:12 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MasterLark

gabrielle, I must honor your courage in doing what you did. For you, I have the strong sense that this was a very smart thing to do. Reading through your message, I was about to wonder what affect this had on your Master and then you answered that. For some reason, I instantly understood that doing this would also have a powerful affect on him, if he cared about you as you indicated. I would be interested in his words on this, if you determine it fits within this thread.


Thankyou for your words.  It was a difficult thing for Uus to deal with afterwards.  He initially felt that somehow i was, what's the word -  tainted in a way.  He found it easier to get me to ground than He thought it would be...but then He is bigger and stronger than i am.  i think He was also shocked at how it made Him feel during the actual act.  i did struggle, i did fight Him, but i think He liked that.  He had told me that He would have to not feel, or think as Himself and to become someone else in order to do this.  i am used to needing time after a scene, to come back to earth, but He doesn't seem to need this time.  On that occasion He really did need time. 

It has in retrospect, made Uus stronger and more open to talking about other things in Oour lives.  It has reinforced trust and made play more flexible and varied.  It has empowered me beyond anything i could have imagined and i am much happier and more content because of it.  Yes, it all could have gone disasterously wrong; Wwe were prepared to go to counselling, but that didn't happen.  What Wwe did will not be right for other people, i am thinking that perhaps i am in a minority of people who would need to deal with their past in such a direct way.  But i have to repeat again, that i am lucky.  i have a partner, my Master, who i trust with my life, my heart and my mind.  i could never have asked anyone else to do this for me.  i love Him more because of it.

gabrielle x

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RE: Any good roleplay rape experiences? - 1/26/2009 12:02:49 AM   
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maybe a fuw tips on role play "forced play" you well find one do not like the "R" word even here

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RE: Any good roleplay rape experiences? - 1/26/2009 8:34:08 AM   
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I've been with a few women who liked rough sex, it can be a pretty fine line what is and what is not consent - I dunno, for me the eyes have it, there is a certain look that says "fuck me", even while she's trying to scratch your eyes out, and another that says "I wish I were somewhere else" - unless there is some prior arrangement, if I get that second look, I'll have to pass. My instincts have not failed me yet in this department, other than the incident I already mentioned.

Point being, there is rough sex, which is sort of spontaneous, there's forceplay, which is usually negotiated in some way, and then there's rape - I'd say don't flirt with that edge unless you're ready to deal with the consequences.

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RE: Any good roleplay rape experiences? - 1/26/2009 9:13:24 AM   
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I think you're good, rape may not attract some people, but then we're talking about a different kind of rape. Is it rape you are after - violence - or forced, involuntary sex? I think few people harbouring the rape fantasy actually kick on having the crap beaten out of them.

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RE: Any good roleplay rape experiences? - 1/26/2009 9:45:02 AM   
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I'd have to disagree, I don't think anybody likes having the crap beaten out of them, although there are some that might get used to it - ships company used to brawl like a bunch of complete maniacs out of sheer boredom, and they usually had a few bumps and bruises, but that's a little different than requiring medical attention.

Nah, as far as I'm concerned for a woman that fantasizes about it, it's about passion, being swept up in the moment, even Vanilla's love their bodice rippers, to be overwhelmed, taken - not about getting hurt.

In fact, humans have certain problems with sexuality: we evolved as brachiators, then at some point evolved into bipedal hominids, which meant some very dramatic changes in pelvic structure and that in turn apparently affected behavior.

At around the same time, it seems that the females lost estrus, and this would have been very confusing - most other organisms, animals, etc., work on a pretty strict schedule: the females go into estrus at certain times, when they're fertile, and most of them accept sperm donations at this time from any number of suitors - in fact they have virtually no control over this, they go into heat and they get busy, period, there is no thinking about it, no decisions to make, it's compulsive, and male behavior is equally compulsive: the female assumes the position (presents), and the males fall over themselves to get to her. And it can get pretty rowdy - ever seen cat's fuck? You don't always know if they're fucking or trying to kill each other. Bonobos's are one exception and it may be the reason we are so closely related is that our common ancestors shared some similar preadaptations that allowed them to adapt better to the loss of estrus and hormonally controlled/scheduled compulsive sexual activity.

After the females lost estrus, it was a whole new ball game, pretty much everything humans do sexually is "unnatural" in the strictest sense of the word, what we have instead are a number of strategies that have been successful in getting around the whole estrus thing - rape, unfortunately, is one of those strategies - the global statistics on it are an eye opener, and it's one of theose things that cuts acros all cultural lines: i.e., a certain percentage of men just seem to be born rapists, others may be opportunists, wheras the majority usually choose one of the social arrangements we've evolved that don't require the use of force, and institutions that create social incentives to maintain them, but they may still crave the emotional release of passionate sex on occasion.

i.e., estrus, and the sort of sexual frenzy it entails is not necessarily gone entirely, it's just submerged and sublimated. Dominance and submission works in sex the same way it works in fighting, it keeps things from going too far before somebody ends up getting hurt, otherwise we'd all be limping around nursing our wounds, which would not be good for group fitness.

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RE: Any good roleplay rape experiences? - 1/27/2009 9:04:30 AM   
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when i think about it, sometimes it's the violence of it that gets me going, sometimes it's just the force. i dunno. maybe with the masochism, the idea of being hurt IS excited to some degree
it's an odd thing to fantasize about (but what isn't atlleast somewhat odd in the world)
but eh, it is what it is.

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