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RE: What kind of fish would be good for someone who thi... - 1/17/2009 6:39:15 AM   
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I love love fish, cooked or not. Have tried many varieties but the mildest fish I have ever had that just literly melts in your mouth is Basa.  Can be hard to find its hit or miss at grocery stores. 

First time I tried it I was wishing more was bought.  Its a very very light white fish and is hands down the mildest I have ever tried.

I dont think there is freshwater/ or seafood I met that I havent liked.

Sushi fresh salmon is to die for tastes like butter. I find it more heavy tasting once its cooked.

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RE: What kind of fish would be good for someone who thi... - 1/17/2009 6:52:00 AM   
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The Red Lobster is great for deep fried fish, (and their buns are to die for) but if you want grilled fish I wouldnt try it there.  I could eat fish every day of the week and I couldnt get down a piece of their salmon.  I dont think many restaurants can cook fish well unless laden with sauces that cover the taste.  They have to be cooked very quickly and anything longer makes them tastes like rubber or leather.  Also, fresh fish shouldnt stink...so if it smells....just pass.

The easiest way to cook fish (not most shell fish) is on the barbecue.  Buy a cedar plank at your grocery store, a salmon filet and a few spices and you will be amazed.    Unfortunately its so darn cold here its almost impossible to barbecue....hopefully only 2 more months!

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RE: What kind of fish would be good for someone who thi... - 1/17/2009 6:59:35 AM   
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Dunno how related this is being lobster, but the things do swim around in the ocean.......

A few years ago I went to a restaraunt and had the surf-n-turf. The lobster was served in the shell, but it had been grilled over a high flame it seems. It did not affect the meat to any great degree but it did make it fall right out of the shell making it easier to eat. It also enhanced the flavor a bit.

I like to cook, as such I like to put meat in the food. The thing is, fish can be difficult. I can't fathom a good way to make fish stew or fish soup. The way I like it is breaded and deep fried. Once in a great while some other way. It just does not stick in my head.

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RE: What kind of fish would be good for someone who thi... - 1/17/2009 7:51:34 AM   
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oh for the love of God....its just a freaking piece of fish.
Try Grouper.....and get over it..!!
Talk about picky....fuck.


Different fishes have different flavors and strengths. My mom always cooked Talapia because it has a very mild fish taste. It seems that this thread has upset you. Not sure why, but I hope you get over it. Maybe you should take a break from the internet for a while and calm down.

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RE: What kind of fish would be good for someone who thi... - 1/17/2009 7:56:49 AM   
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Have you ever tried the california rolls...they are made with cooked crab, not raw fish and taste awesome.

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RE: What kind of fish would be good for someone who thi... - 1/17/2009 8:01:41 AM   
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The only experience I have ever had with eating fish was my moms cooking, and I Realize she's not the greatest cook so the sampling of fish I hated when she forced me to eat it as a child, isn't always such an accurate image of fish.

The main problem with fish, I have is most the kind she cooks stinks, the house smells horrible for weeks, it tastes about as fishy as it stinks, and they look absolutely gross, when they come from the fish department.




I would recommend tuna.  It's quite "meat like" so a good way to test out your taste for fish.

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RE: What kind of fish would be good for someone who thi... - 1/17/2009 8:18:12 AM   
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The garbage they dole out at Red Lobster is not the way to eat healthy seafood. I applaud you for wanting to try, and good for you for trying something that you think you don't like. Living on the coast of Maine I eat fresh seafood at least three times a week, and halibut is a snow white, mild and firm textured fish that takes marvelously to just sauteing in a pan with some olive oil, garlic, salt and pepper and fresh dill if you like it. Right at the end if you want to throw in a splash of white wine and some capers, but you don't have to. It does add a nice sauce to pour over the fish though. The key thing with fish is don't overcook it, nothing ruins a nice piece of fish worse than overcooking it.  Halibut is so yummy, mild and sweet. Another great fish for non fish lovers is haddock, very mild and white fleshed as well. I usually poach that, or stuff it and bake it in the oven. When you start doing things like deep fried heavy sauces etc. you are ruining the point of the health benefits of the fish. Lemon squeezed on fish gives it a nice aroma and taste as well.

Another one of my favorites is to take swordfish steaks, brush them with olive oil, and whatever herbs you like, or even brush a little bit of mustard on them, wrap them in tin foil pouches and throw them on the grill with some veggies. Easy, quick and little clean up. Start with some of these and if want actual detailed recipes email me I'll write them down, I have tons of fish recipes I love to cook and seafood is my favorite.  Just keep trying, and cut back on the fried saucy stuff, I think you might be surprised. Oh, and I have a low fat crab cake recipe that is out of this world, and baked not fried with a lemon remoulade *kind of like a lighter lower fat tartar sauce. With a spinach salad, and a nice glass of wine, it is a really light and yummy dinner.   

Oh and what ArcticMaestro said about salmon is absolutely true. That is a stronger flavored fish, I did not used to care for it ut my ex-husband loved it so I tried all kinds of ways and now I love it. They make a marinade called Very Very Teriyaki, that makes a really good sweetish glaze and gives the salmon a nice caramelized finish. It is sold right in the grocery store in the marinade section, if you see some try it. But really, don't go to Red Lobster for a good example of real and fresh seafood. It's like going to Mickey D's for good beef. 


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I happen to love Red Lobster, Course I do only get their captain morgans coconut fried jumbo shrimp and their endless cheddar bay biskets, so I can't really comment on other meals, but other people in my family have loved it too. It's the only reason I go frankly lol.  I have a few places I go for one meal and one meal only though.

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I would imagine that the salmon at Red Lobster is pretty nasty.  Most of thier food is.  It relativley unskilled people Frying or baking frozen portions of stuff.  Go to a real restaurant.  Salmon comes in a wide variety.  I would imagine RL has South American farm raised salmon, which is just nasty.  A fresh wild red or king Salmon, is the way to go. 



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RE: What kind of fish would be good for someone who thi... - 1/17/2009 8:26:11 AM   
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The easiest way to cook fish (not most shell fish) is on the barbecue.  Buy a cedar plank at your grocery store, a salmon filet and a few spices and you will be amazed.    Unfortunately its so darn cold here its almost impossible to barbecue....hopefully only 2 more months!


to cook shellfish on the bbq....

first you have to have a grill with a lid.  then, get your coals started and let them get ashy on the outsides of the briquettes.  set the grid on there, put the oysters, clams, whathaveyou on the grill and shut the lid for a few minutes.  when the wee little shells all pop open, they're done.   easy-peasy steamed!

i like them with a bit of lemon juice, although i know a lot of people go for a bit of hot sauce also.

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RE: What kind of fish would be good for someone who thi... - 1/17/2009 8:36:32 AM   
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I am not very fond of most fish.  I absolutely love grilled tilapia.  There is a restaurant near here that has me hooked.  The only other fish I have really found that I can stand is fried catfish.  I guess that's just my southern roots showing. 


The bad news about "farm raised" Tilapia:

http://chefyoji.wordpress.com/2008/07/12/tilapia-is-rich-in-bad-omega-6-fatty-acid/

Information about tuna treated with carbon monoxide to preserve the red color of fresh tuna:

http://www.ava.gov.sg/NR/rdonlyres/5E5B37CA-FA8E-4DFF-9D76-2BCC138F757D/14980/CarbonMonoxideTreatedTuna1.pdf


And for people who are unaware about the risk of eating canned albacore tuna and mercury:

http://cbs2.com/consumer/Tuna.Mercury.Albacore.2.513029.html


Fish and seafood are  good choices in a healthy diet but it is important to be an informed consumer.


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RE: What kind of fish would be good for someone who thi... - 1/17/2009 8:49:57 AM   
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Absolutely. A fish monger is going to have far far superior product than a grocery store. I have been buying fish from my local guy for twenty years, and they ship too. I send my sister a care package for christmas every year because she is stationed in Oklahoma and is sooooo missing fresh Maine seafood. Plus this place carries everything, like 60 products, check out the list. He also has some recipes on here.  One other thing I forgot to recommend for a fish "newie" is scallops, very mild and sweet, and super easy to saute and serve with just some couscous or rice and a salad and it an easy but elegant meal. Most "non-fish" people really like scallops.      

http://www.jessmarket.com/index.html



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That is a very very good tip about smelling it, I can probably ask Daddy to do that too, since he likes fish and knows what a good fresh fish should smell like, I'd imagain!

I am looking for fish markets and stuff around town here in Sacramento, I figure maybe fish markets, I'll have better luck than in a grocery store* maybe I don't know about these things though*

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  Salmon has very little fishy taste if it's fresh.  It's nasty if it's sat around for a while.  Go to the fish area of the meat department and if they have salmon, ask the butcher to put a piece of it on some butcher paper and then take it from him and smell it.  If it smells like fish, it's not fresh.  And don't be embarrassed to ask to smell it.....

Good luck with your fish eating adventure......just try the shark first..... 



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RE: What kind of fish would be good for someone who thi... - 1/17/2009 10:34:39 AM   
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I luuurve fish, every once in a while we go have fresh shashimi (sp?) at a sushi place near here- it's just the cuts of fish, no rice or anything.

Tuna Tilapia are pretty mild fishies, Salmon is a little strong, but if you get it fresh it's amazing.

Also, I'd be a bad southerner if I didn't love fresh fried catfish... omg good!


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RE: What kind of fish would be good for someone who thi... - 1/17/2009 10:59:06 AM   
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I love canned Tuna Fish, we get the bumble bee tuna brand, and of course we do have them in sandwhiches with mayo in it and sweet pickles and onions.

Is regular tuna anything like canned tuna?
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I would recommend tuna.  It's quite "meat like" so a good way to test out your taste for fish.


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RE: What kind of fish would be good for someone who thi... - 1/17/2009 11:02:18 AM   
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Its like the difference between a good piece of steak and a can of dog food.  The fish that goes into cans is the worstof the catch.

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RE: What kind of fish would be good for someone who thi... - 1/17/2009 11:04:18 AM   
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I think that can be said about any kind of meat, My mom cooks a roast every few months, but she cooks it in very high heat and does not cover it, and with out fail the roast is always dry and over cooked and kind of flavorless.


Next time Daddy has money to go grocery shopping I am thinking we should pick up some tuna or some of the tilapa if I can find it!



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The garbage they dole out at Red Lobster is not the way to eat healthy seafood. I applaud you for wanting to try, and good for you for trying something that you think you don't like. Living on the coast of Maine I eat fresh seafood at least three times a week, and halibut is a snow white, mild and firm textured fish that takes marvelously to just sauteing in a pan with some olive oil, garlic, salt and pepper and fresh dill if you like it. Right at the end if you want to throw in a splash of white wine and some capers, but you don't have to. It does add a nice sauce to pour over the fish though. The key thing with fish is don't overcook it, nothing ruins a nice piece of fish worse than overcooking it.  Halibut is so yummy, mild and sweet. Another great fish for non fish lovers is haddock, very mild and white fleshed as well. I usually poach that, or stuff it and bake it in the oven. When you start doing things like deep fried heavy sauces etc. you are ruining the point of the health benefits of the fish. Lemon squeezed on fish gives it a nice aroma and taste as well.

Another one of my favorites is to take swordfish steaks, brush them with olive oil, and whatever herbs you like, or even brush a little bit of mustard on them, wrap them in tin foil pouches and throw them on the grill with some veggies. Easy, quick and little clean up. Start with some of these and if want actual detailed recipes email me I'll write them down, I have tons of fish recipes I love to cook and seafood is my favorite.  Just keep trying, and cut back on the fried saucy stuff, I think you might be surprised. Oh, and I have a low fat crab cake recipe that is out of this world, and baked not fried with a lemon remoulade *kind of like a lighter lower fat tartar sauce. With a spinach salad, and a nice glass of wine, it is a really light and yummy dinner.   

Oh and what ArcticMaestro said about salmon is absolutely true. That is a stronger flavored fish, I did not used to care for it ut my ex-husband loved it so I tried all kinds of ways and now I love it. They make a marinade called Very Very Teriyaki, that makes a really good sweetish glaze and gives the salmon a nice caramelized finish. It is sold right in the grocery store in the marinade section, if you see some try it. But really, don't go to Red Lobster for a good example of real and fresh seafood. It's like going to Mickey D's for good beef. 


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I happen to love Red Lobster, Course I do only get their captain morgans coconut fried jumbo shrimp and their endless cheddar bay biskets, so I can't really comment on other meals, but other people in my family have loved it too. It's the only reason I go frankly lol.  I have a few places I go for one meal and one meal only though.

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I would imagine that the salmon at Red Lobster is pretty nasty.  Most of thier food is.  It relativley unskilled people Frying or baking frozen portions of stuff.  Go to a real restaurant.  Salmon comes in a wide variety.  I would imagine RL has South American farm raised salmon, which is just nasty.  A fresh wild red or king Salmon, is the way to go. 



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RE: What kind of fish would be good for someone who thi... - 1/17/2009 11:08:10 AM   
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Pismo beach is a good place to get fresh fish and sea foods, I hear, since Pismo beach is right on the water. I have been there once, but didn't get any of the fish or nothing since back then I wasn't willing to try it out, after the horrible experinces of my moms fish cooking lol.

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RE: What kind of fish would be good for someone who thi... - 1/17/2009 11:13:46 AM   
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Since my father is a sports fisherman I have ate a lot of type of fish..mostly freshwater ..but I too do not like fish that is oily. or fishy tasting... my favorite fresh water fish is walleye also known as pickerel 

I have not experimented alot with the salt water variety  but I like shrimp, scallops,  lobster, king crab,   beer battered  cod or halibut

and I also have had shark which was made into a stew  and was quite tasty...

and another item  that sounds  really disgusting that is actually great tasting is bullfrog legs  which tastes a lot like chicken


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RE: What kind of fish would be good for someone who thi... - 1/19/2009 6:05:41 PM   
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Ok, We went to RedLobster, And I didn't like the sweet and spicy sauce since it was to spicy for my likes, so I got the maple cherry, and put it on the lobster.

It was ok, but not great, Same thing with the shrimp, they were to plain for my tastes, I like them battered and fried. So Daddy, who ordered coconut shrimp traded his for mine, since he didn't like the batter.

Daddy got Crab alfredo, and salmon and shrimp. I didn't like the salmon, and the crab alfredo was ok, but I wouldn't order it.

It could be that RL doesn't make the greatest sea food like some people say, or it could just not be my cup of tea.

All in all though I am very happy to have been open minded enough to try something new, and I enjoyed the time with Daddy.

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RE: What kind of fish would be good for someone who thi... - 1/19/2009 6:33:43 PM   
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I have no advice.  I think fish is disgusting too.  Why don't you just have chicken?

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RE: What kind of fish would be good for someone who thi... - 1/19/2009 6:55:42 PM   
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Or so gross or un appealing I will not finish the plate,* and trust me I can be pretty determined to finish the plate I don't like wasting food* ...

Speaking of finishing your plate - that's the first thing most healthy food approaches say to give up.  If there's too much food for a single serving, get a box and save it for the next day.

I catch a lot of flack (jokingly) when I travel with coworkers because I rarely finish my plate.  Why?  The portion sizes are way too big.  Especially at a place like Pappadeux's.  "All you can eat" of anything is even worse.

Eating once a day is also not good for you - you're really whacking your insulin system by eating 1 very large meal per day.

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RE: What kind of fish would be good for someone who thi... - 1/19/2009 7:16:26 PM   
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BTW, see if you have a Chinese/Vietnamese/South Asian store like the 99 Ranch Markets.  They have a selection of live fish there.

Folks in San Jose can go to the Race Street Fish Market (yum!)

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