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RE: The cock =the pathway to the mind?? - 1/21/2009 8:29:17 AM   
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Duh so why would you bother faking it if you have cum already? Women fake it to get it over with generally

You type faster than I do.  LOL.


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RE: The cock =the pathway to the mind?? - 1/21/2009 8:29:37 AM   
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awwwww, you gave me the most eye rolls.  You must think I'm special!!



It's all about your rippling abs, babe.  I've never seen a man cut so fine.


OK, OK, that is better than stroking my cock.  You proved your point already.  LMAO 

Thank you sweetheart. 

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RE: The cock =the pathway to the mind?? - 1/21/2009 8:33:22 AM   
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You could be right.

If you've cum in her a few times already, I'd have to wonder what the purpose would be in having three (the minimum definition of a "few") legitimate orgasms and then faking the fourth.  I'd tend to think that when we females have done it, the reason is because the male hasn't been able to give us the first one. 



hmmm, never really been a problem for me to get the first one out of her?  Unless.....  Wait a minute.  You don't think?  Oh crap now I'm all confused....

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RE: The cock =the pathway to the mind?? - 1/21/2009 8:37:40 AM   
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This thread went downhill in a hurry - could we get back to why women like giving blowjobs? I'm always happy to reciprocate, I just consider oral more foreplay than anything.

Anyway, I'm collecting data on this vagus nerve connection, and I'm wondering how many women actively enjoy it, I've heard a few make this claim.

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RE: The cock =the pathway to the mind?? - 1/21/2009 9:00:16 AM   
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I guess I see D/s as more than just physical gratification, the dynamic is supposed to enhance that for both partners, if it just turns into a pissing contest, then even sexual gratification is less... gratifying, more mechanical, less emotionally involved, although anger is an emotion that can be sublimated as well.

But there is both, it's a mind/body interaction, there is attitude, and then there's technique, and generally, I tend to study technique so that I don't have to think about that as much during the act itself, but can focus on the interplay, sort of the way I approach everything, whether art, music, etc., i.e. theory is just the underlying mechanics of the thing, technique is the "touch" you use to produce the desired result, a unique and hopefully, mutually satisfying experience.

Because it's unique, one is hard put to discuss it in any way besides retrospective analysis, i.e., analyzing an event that has already occurred, whether the performance of a particular piece of music, or a given scene or interpersonal dynamic.

So, it seems to me that we can either recount our own satisfactory experiences, or discuss the algorithmic aspects of it - like the V-I motion, what is it that works every time? Is there such a thing in D/s, or even sex in general?

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RE: The cock =the pathway to the mind?? - 1/21/2009 9:01:53 AM   
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I guess I see D/s as more than just physical gratification, the dynamic is supposed to enhance that for both partners, if it just turns into a pissing contest, then even sexual gratification is less... gratifying, more mechanical, less emotionally involved, although anger is an emotion that can be sublimated as well.

But there is both, it's a mind/body interaction, there is attitude, and then there's technique, and generally, I tend to study technique so that I don't have to think about that as much during the act itself, but can focus on the interplay, sort of the way I approach everything, whether art, music, etc., i.e. theory is just the underlying mechanics of the thing, technique is the "touch" you use to produce the desired result, a unique and hopefully, mutually satisfying experience.

Because it's unique, one is hard put to discuss it in any way besides retrospective analysis, i.e., analyzing an event that has already occurred, whether the performance of a particular piece of music, or a given scene or interpersonal dynamic.

So, it seems to me that we can either recount our own satisfactory experiences, or discuss the algorithmic aspects of it - like the V-I motion, what is it that works every time? Is there such a thing in D/s, or even sex in general?


So have you faked it or not?

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RE: The cock =the pathway to the mind?? - 1/21/2009 9:02:11 AM   
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Ya know, I'm not the one that told them they could reduce any man into a quivering heap of jelly in five minutes or less - I can't fake an orgasm, I don't have that option.



I've never faked an orgasm in my life.  And believe me there are plenty of clueless men out there who think that 2 and a half minutes of fingering around down there is supposed to get a woman off.  Then it's "You don't cum easily do you?", as if I've been deficient or disappointing in some way.  It's easy to see why some women do fake it. 

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RE: The cock =the pathway to the mind?? - 1/21/2009 9:03:01 AM   
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So have you faked it or not?



lol lol thanks for that

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RE: The cock =the pathway to the mind?? - 1/21/2009 9:07:39 AM   
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So have you faked it or not?



lol lol thanks for that


I feel like the kid at school trying to keep things off topic as long as we can so we don't have to do any real work

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RE: The cock =the pathway to the mind?? - 1/21/2009 9:15:00 AM   
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I've never faked an orgasm in my life.  And believe me there are plenty of clueless men out there who think that 2 and a half minutes of fingering around down there is supposed to get a woman off.  Then it's "You don't cum easily do you?", as if I've been deficient or disappointing in some way.  It's easy to see why some women do fake it. 

Didn't mean to imply you had, I never have either - for most men two minutes of fingering around down there is what does it for them, so don't always learn that women take a little more warming up, generally speaking, more like diesels that hot rods, you gotta warm up the glow plugs a little before you try to turn her over.

It's that kinda sexy talk that makes me a legend...

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RE: The cock =the pathway to the mind?? - 1/21/2009 9:19:35 AM   
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for most men two minutes of fingering around down there is what does it for them,


I wish that were ture, life would be so easy

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RE: The cock =the pathway to the mind?? - 1/21/2009 9:23:30 AM   
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Didn't mean to imply you had, I never have either - for most men two minutes of fingering around down there is what does it for them, so don't always learn that women take a little more warming up, generally speaking, more like diesels that hot rods, you gotta warm up the glow plugs a little before you try to turn her over.

It's that kinda sexy talk that makes me a legend...



Hey, I know it works for me.  A man can get anything he wants out of me when he starts comparing me to a diesel engine.. 

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RE: The cock =the pathway to the mind?? - 1/21/2009 9:24:24 AM   
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I've never faked an orgasm in my life.  And believe me there are plenty of clueless men out there who think that 2 and a half minutes of fingering around down there is supposed to get a woman off.  Then it's "You don't cum easily do you?", as if I've been deficient or disappointing in some way.  It's easy to see why some women do fake it. 

Didn't mean to imply you had, I never have either - for most men two minutes of fingering around down there is what does it for them, so don't always learn that women take a little more warming up, generally speaking, more like diesels that hot rods, you gotta warm up the glow plugs a little before you try to turn her over.

It's that kinda sexy talk that makes me a legend...



i like to bite my diesel engine and slap it around a little while it's running to make it hum a little louder.

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RE: The cock =the pathway to the mind?? - 1/21/2009 9:24:57 AM   
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This thread went downhill in a hurry - could we get back to why women like giving blowjobs? I'm always happy to reciprocate, I just consider oral more foreplay than anything.



Why do I like it...I enjoy pleasing Him, I enjoy the challenge of whatever the circumstances are, and the uniqueness of taste, texture, dimensions etc. The fact that everyone is unique. It can be quite sexually gratifying for me. Of course the fact He enjoys it, He wants it and it makes Him happy has a huge role too.

Blowjobs can be great foreplay or they can be an act in and of themselves. All depends on the situation and desires of those involved.

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RE: The cock =the pathway to the mind?? - 1/21/2009 9:25:37 AM   
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To extend the metaphor, guy's are more resistant to stopping to ask directions because they're supposed to already know it all, so they feel like they have to pretend to know things they really have no clue about whatsoever. We hate feeling lame, confused and stupid - that's why the ego stroking things works.

I consider myself a halfway decent lover not because I'm just naturally better at it, but because I started out with some very opinionated women who weren't shy about giving directions, I learn something new every time and I hope that never changes.

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RE: The cock =the pathway to the mind?? - 1/21/2009 9:26:33 AM   
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lololol...well that would work on my brother..quess thats why they call me Iron Ass..because that never worked on me...Now let a preggers sub as me anything..and I might grant it..I mean if I can that is...but..I want the sub happy...and that means getting what she needs..not nessary what she wants..and isn't that the point? Try to figure out what that is..or is Not!

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RE: The cock =the pathway to the mind?? - 1/21/2009 9:30:40 AM   
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This thread went downhill in a hurry - could we get back to why women like giving blowjobs? I'm always happy to reciprocate, I just consider oral more foreplay than anything.




Why do I like it...I enjoy pleasing Him, I enjoy the challenge of whatever the circumstances are, and the uniqueness of taste, texture, dimensions etc. The fact that everyone is unique. It can be quite sexually gratifying for me. Of course the fact He enjoys it, He wants it and it makes Him happy has a huge role too.

Blowjobs can be great foreplay or they can be an act in and of themselves. All depends on the situation and desires of those involved.

Keiko


Good point.  A blow job or stroking a man's cock is more submissive to me than sex itself, only because there is no enjoyment in it for you other than the simple enjoyment of pleasuring me.



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RE: The cock =the pathway to the mind?? - 1/21/2009 9:33:00 AM   
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I dont really see sex acts themselves as being submissive really. I dont think giving a blow job is submissive in itself. Its the connotations behind it

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RE: The cock =the pathway to the mind?? - 1/21/2009 9:33:17 AM   
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To extend the metaphor, guy's are more resistant to stopping to ask directions because they're supposed to already know it all, so they feel like they have to pretend to know things they really have no clue about whatsoever. We hate feeling lame, confused and stupid - that's why the ego stroking things works.

I consider myself a halfway decent lover not because I'm just naturally better at it, but because I started out with some very opinionated women who weren't shy about giving directions, I learn something new every time and I hope that never changes.



Perhaps this is why a guy who knows when to stop and ask directions (not every 5 second but when you seriously need them) is a bigger turn on then one who can't. (Intended both literally and metaphorically.) The again this could just be me.

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RE: The cock =the pathway to the mind?? - 1/21/2009 9:35:32 AM   
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Good point.  A blow job or stroking a man's cock is more submissive to me than sex itself, only because there is no enjoyment in it for you other than the simple enjoyment of pleasuring me.

Do you really think that?  Because that's false on a lot of levels.

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