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RE: The cock =the pathway to the mind?? - 1/20/2009 1:31:24 PM

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It actually wasn't your thread that I was referencing, but thank you for your comment.

Then I didn't say a thing!

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RE: The cock =the pathway to the mind?? - 1/20/2009 1:36:36 PM

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And there is a perfect example of why a "dominant" male should have control of his man part. In many examples I've seen throughout life, the cock is the anti-mind for men (laughing). It's quite a challenge for us males; weakness to sexual influence has been bred into our very genes.

I would point out, however, that it's not ultimately productive for the female "in control" at the moment. You go after a man who is lead around by his sex drive and (through your manipulations) encourage him to be even more so? Don't feel too bad when he jumps to consume the next passing object of interest. I may be in the minority with this opinion, but I believe authentically submissive women respect men who aren't slaves to their sex drives. There is no nobility in a man who is such a carnal wimp.

I don't think that's limited to 'authentically submissive women'. I don't actually know ANY women that consider it noble or something to respect.

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Methinks you got your quotes mixed up, as I did not say what you appear to have me quoting.

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RE: The cock =the pathway to the mind?? - 1/20/2009 1:41:39 PM

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Yep. The cock is the pathway to the mind, just like the stomach is the way to a man's heart. It's all about fulfilling basic human needs .

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RE: The cock =the pathway to the mind?? - 1/20/2009 2:32:02 PM

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I believe that feeding the ego is far more effective than stroking the cock.

and stroking his cock isn't feeding his ego?

No, it's not. It's just getting him off sexually. Anyone can stroke a cock. But how many can make you feel like you matter to them, specifically because of who you are.

We must agree to disagree. When a girl strokes my cock, unless I paid good money for it, it means she either finds me attractive in some way or cares about me in some way. Either way it's an ego boost!!

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RE: The cock =the pathway to the mind?? - 1/20/2009 2:40:18 PM

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True, but magical thinking is often logical, logic is merely a set of tools for parsing information - if one is only parsing internal set of symbolic meaning, it's going to end up circular and subjective - typically, by including all of the relevant external empirical data, an objective syllogism is produced that can form the basis of a testable hypothesis - logic is merely a means of forming testable hypothesis, that can then be further analyzed.

At the risk of launching into another full blown thesis, rational thought likely evolved in order to make predictions based on cause and effect that aided our progenitors in their quest to survive in a harsh world - where to find certain plants at certain times of the season, etc., to anticipate certain phenomena, and communicate that information to others - this means it's pretty useless in isolation, we evolved this capacity in order to analyze external data, and predict phenomena based on that analysis.

If the data being analyzed is itself internal, subjective and abstract, the result can only be subjective and abstract, i.e., no general rules or algorithms can be deduced from it - deductive reasoning is essentially abstract and linguistic (some women are sexually insatiable = all women are sexually insatiable), whereas inductive reasoning is based on observation and pattern recognition.

Anyway, this is a common misconception, there is logic, and then there is subjective, sterile logic that has nothing to do with the empirical evidence, based on logical fallacy - bad logic, in other words.

Ah, I see the dichotomy you're referring to now. I liken "good logic" and reasoning to the scientific approach; a systematic study through reality-based observation; that is really the only logic I recognize. Basing one's reasoning—and life—on spiritually esoteric ideas and religious edicts is adventurous, in the very least.

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RE: The cock =the pathway to the mind?? - 1/20/2009 3:27:34 PM

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Normally, this is so, but the sophistry of people like Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly, etc. who represent their emotional rhetoric and half truths as "logic" necessitate making the distinction when confronted with someone trying to represent a logical fallacy as a logical argument - this often takes some doing, since they have been convinced by the same person that your arguments are inherently emotional, while theirs are inherently logical, and have never taken the time to formally check their (Limbaughs/O'Reilly's) arguments for the presence of logical fallacy - if they did, they would find that it's consistant mainly in that it's all pretty much nothing but logical fallacy, a form of sophistry for which we have another, special word: propaganda.

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RE: The cock =the pathway to the mind?? - 1/20/2009 3:30:42 PM

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We must agree to disagree. When a girl strokes my cock, unless I paid good money for it, it means she either finds me attractive in some way or cares about me in some way. Either way it's an ego boost!!

Or she wants you to roll over and go to sleep so you are out of her hair for a bit

(ok maybe its just me that does that)

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RE: The cock =the pathway to the mind?? - 1/20/2009 3:55:45 PM

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I believe that feeding the ego is far more effective than stroking the cock.

and stroking his cock isn't feeding his ego?

No, it's not. It's just getting him off sexually. Anyone can stroke a cock. But how many can make you feel like you matter to them, specifically because of who you are.

We must agree to disagree. When a girl strokes my cock, unless I paid good money for it, it means she either finds me attractive in some way or cares about me in some way. Either way it's an ego boost!!

Or maybe she just wants dinner out and a mouthful of cock for dessert. And that's all she'd have put into the relationship to get her needs met by you?

Is sucking your cock, in and of itself, comparable to the ego boost you'd get from a female who genuinely thinks you hang the moon, and who demonstrates that in ALL of her actions?  Don't you think you'd be more inspired to meet her needs and keep her happy if she was all about you, and not just sucking you off to manipulate something from you?

Just suck the cock and she can have whatever she wants? Turn a poly man monogamous?  Make a commitment-phobe marry her?  Yup, just stroke his cock and the world will be at your fingertips. How ridiculous is that?

Honestly, I'm happy to say that I've never personally been involved with a man so desperate for female attention that sucking his cock was all it took to keep him pleased, nevermind turn him into a compliant wuss.

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RE: The cock =the pathway to the mind?? - 1/20/2009 4:24:02 PM

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Normally, this is so, but the sophistry of people like Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly, etc. who represent their emotional rhetoric and half truths as "logic" necessitate making the distinction when confronted with someone trying to represent a logical fallacy as a logical argument - this often takes some doing, since they have been convinced by the same person that your arguments are inherently emotional, while theirs are inherently logical, and have never taken the time to formally check their (Limbaughs/O'Reilly's) arguments for the presence of logical fallacy - if they did, they would find that it's consistant mainly in that it's all pretty much nothing but logical fallacy, a form of sophistry for which we have another, special word: propaganda.

Amen. Ironic I use that word, I know.

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RE: The cock =the pathway to the mind?? - 1/20/2009 6:44:59 PM

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I don't think it's exclusive to D/s. It's a man/woman thing. I know it happens on a daily basis. But I could never be in a D/s relationship where that was strictly the basis for the relationship. I guess like marie, I've not been in a relationship (to quote marie) "I'm happy to say that I've never personally been involved with a man so desperate for female attention that sucking his cock was all it took to keep him pleased, nevermind turn him into a compliant wuss." I'd like to think that my sucking his cock would be part of the package deal. Manipulation has never been my forte.

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RE: The cock =the pathway to the mind?? - 1/20/2009 7:26:20 PM

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I just get the feeling I'm listening in on a room full of men all talking about how THEY've never been with a woman who faked an orgasm.

Trust me, we can all name a few "strong sturdy respectable alpha dom males" who can (and usually have) become slobbery over a cute piece of ass at some point.

Don't worry males, we're not saying you're not masters of the universe as you know it. We're saying you're human and we enjoy knowing what that means about you.

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RE: The cock =the pathway to the mind?? - 1/20/2009 7:38:31 PM

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I just get the feeling I'm listening in on a room full of men all talking about how THEY've never been with a woman who faked an orgasm.

Trust me, we can all name a few "strong sturdy respectable alpha dom males" who can (and usually have) become slobbery over a cute piece of ass at some point.

Don't worry males, we're not saying you're not masters of the universe as you know it. We're saying you're human and we enjoy knowing what that means about you.

Don't believe that I've ever been slobbery over anything much less a cute piece of arse. Getting wood over such and losing ones faculties are two different things. So no, your pussy has no power to sway me in one direction or another. Hate to break it to you :>

As for women faking it..I know there are some who have no problem with manipulation or being fake for the sake of it but I wouldn't want to be associated with them. If you feel you have to do such things..like I said before..We wouldn't have much of a relationship in my eyes. I prefer truth in all ways over ego stroking in any form.

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RE: The cock =the pathway to the mind?? - 1/20/2009 8:04:05 PM

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I believe that feeding the ego is far more effective than stroking the cock.

and stroking his cock isn't feeding his ego?

No, it's not. It's just getting him off sexually. Anyone can stroke a cock. But how many can make you feel like you matter to them, specifically because of who you are.

We must agree to disagree. When a girl strokes my cock, unless I paid good money for it, it means she either finds me attractive in some way or cares about me in some way. Either way it's an ego boost!!

Or maybe she just wants dinner out and a mouthful of cock for dessert. And that's all she'd have put into the relationship to get her needs met by you?

Is sucking your cock, in and of itself, comparable to the ego boost you'd get from a female who genuinely thinks you hang the moon, and who demonstrates that in ALL of her actions?  Don't you think you'd be more inspired to meet her needs and keep her happy if she was all about you, and not just sucking you off to manipulate something from you?

Just suck the cock and she can have whatever she wants? Turn a poly man monogamous?  Make a commitment-phobe marry her?  Yup, just stroke his cock and the world will be at your fingertips. How ridiculous is that?

Honestly, I'm happy to say that I've never personally been involved with a man so desperate for female attention that sucking his cock was all it took to keep him pleased, nevermind turn him into a compliant wuss.

LOL I think you took my comments a little too seriously. I said it was an ego boost. I didn't say it was all I needed, that it would make me do anything for her, or that there were not better ways to boost his ego, but it is still an ego boost, none the less. I've never had my cock sucked and not felt a little better about myself. I absolutely disagree with it as a form of manipulation, and anyone who does use it as such would be doing a unjustice to both the sub and the dom.

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RE: The cock =the pathway to the mind?? - 1/20/2009 8:07:37 PM

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We must agree to disagree. When a girl strokes my cock, unless I paid good money for it, it means she either finds me attractive in some way or cares about me in some way. Either way it's an ego boost!!

Or she wants you to roll over and go to sleep so you are out of her hair for a bit

(ok maybe its just me that does that)

hmmmm, Now if I could just figure out how to get her to roll over and fall asleep, then we might have a relationship. LOL

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RE: The cock =the pathway to the mind?? - 1/20/2009 8:25:44 PM

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LOL I think you took my comments a little too seriously. I said it was an ego boost. I didn't say it was all I needed, that it would make me do anything for her, or that there were not better ways to boost his ego, but it is still an ego boost, none the less. I've never had my cock sucked and not felt a little better about myself. I absolutely disagree with it as a form of manipulation, and anyone who does use it as such would be doing a unjustice to both the sub and the dom.

Well, then we'll have to agree to agree. :)

Anyway, I don't think I took it too seriously, but I think you and I were going in slightly different directions. My statement was in context with the OP, it wasn't meant to stand by itself to say that a man getting his cock sucked couldn't feel an ego boost. Maybe I wasn't clear on that. My interpretation of the OP question basically was do you think you can manipulate a man into whatever you want just by stroking his cock.

What I meant by my statement was that feeding a man's ego, (not dishonestly, but by genuinely seeing that man as someone great) would have a far greater affect (than merely tending to his cock) on whether that man is inclined to meet his partner's needs or give her what she wants etc. Anyway, that's based on my own experiences and observations. I'm sure others' mileage may vary.

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RE: The cock =the pathway to the mind?? - 1/20/2009 9:07:55 PM

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Pussywhipped, is the word we're looking for here, and I suppose there is always that possibility. I'm not gonna just hand you my balls, but if you want to give me a blowjob, I'm not gonna refuse...

...unless I'm like, still chafed from the last one.

It takes me a really long time to come from a blowjob.

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RE: The cock =the pathway to the mind?? - 1/20/2009 9:10:38 PM

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It takes me a really long time to come from a blowjob.

Easy fixed mate. We just get an airhose and acompressor and shove one end up your ... Well you can guess the rest the result is a fast errection and a ginormour fart at 50psi.....

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RE: The cock =the pathway to the mind?? - 1/20/2009 9:22:46 PM

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Seriously, I've broken many a self proclaimed deep throat expert who ended up with lockjaw - and it isn't like I'm trying not to cum - I'm not trying to brag, I actually feel bad about it, I hate to ruin somebodies self esteem that way, I always tell them first but they never seem to believe me, any other orifice, no problem, regardless of how snug they are, but not oral for some reason.

It sucks to because I do like it, and some of them never recover their confidence.

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RE: The cock =the pathway to the mind?? - 1/21/2009 2:41:26 AM

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Easy fixed mate. We just get an airhose and acompressor and shove one end up your ... Well you can guess the rest the result is a fast errection and a ginormour fart at 50psi.....

Not unless you never sleep you won't.

Didn't say I had problems with getting an erection - or farting for that matter.

But enough about me.

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RE: The cock =the pathway to the mind?? - 1/21/2009 3:34:11 AM

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Touch that part of me that excites me...touch my mind.
Of course the ego is raised when a member of the opposite sex shows an interest in junior whether that be within her fingers or orally..but no more than being complimented for any number of things.(e.g you done a great job of fixing the washing machine )
So in answer to the OPs question i would suggest its a little too superficial to hold true that males are suckers for being sucked .....although it certainly dont damage my ego

Apologies Amaros i noticed it states im replying to you but intended for OP

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