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RE: Just out of curiousity - 1/21/2009 5:43:41 PM   
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Speaking of fake patriotism..... is kittinSol even american?

You are questioning someones patriotism? YOU?

You stated that you hope for another crisis like 9/11 just to see how Obama handles it.

Based on that sickening post, you have no right to question the patriotism of anyone.


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RE: Just out of curiousity - 1/21/2009 10:29:06 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MissSepphora1

And obviously your EX president, Clinton, had a thing for Saddam too... And a lot of other Dems.  Seems more like the Dems had it out for him as much as Bush did.

By the way, did you read all of the quotes, or did you stop at one?
Perhaps you should educate yourself a little too.
 

A quick history lesson would show you that we had saddam bottled up, only able to operate within a thin strip running through the middle of Iraq.He wasn`t a threat to anyone or to us.

We controlled the entire air space,northern Iraq(the Kurds) and bombed his military at will.And did.

We owned the place by air and our inspectors went where they wanted when they wanted to, on land.

There was plenty on evidence to show there was no WMD programs.No evidence at all of anything that could threaten us(the reason given the American people for invading).

There is evidence however, that bush cherry picked facts and over-blew others in order to sway us.To bullshit us.

One good thing is now we`ll be able to do a real investigation into this.With real cops and maybe with real trail judges.

I`m amused that some think I hate bush.I pitty the guy really,and he defenders too.

But hate`s not the right word for how I feel.

Let down,lied to,used,my trust abused(I was snookered into believing saddam was involved in 9/11),disapointed and disgusted,but not hate.I hate dog abusers and old lady kickers,bigots and Berry Manilow,but not the shoe dodger.

It`s the failure I detest(he`s still trying to say he was a good pres.,that or folks one day in the future will determine that he was a success,which is another way of saying I don`t care what you think, now).

It`s the lost opportunity and loss of our nation`s good name I don`t like.

It`s the treason.I`m pissed at them revealing the under cover ID of a CIA agent in the field along with her entire feild operation.
A hanging offense in time of war,btw.We`re at war,remember?

It`s the pile of body bags bush filled that I hate.Not the pathetic creature we saw bitch slapped yesterday.He`s not worth my energy.

It`s his policies and un-repentant neo-cons I have issues with.

I don`t reticule him for my pleasure or for fun(though his defenders are very fun and funny).

I point out and good faith types and normal folks point out his unfortunate mistakes for the record,for the future.So when people look back in history,they`ll see that people who had torture regimes were brought to justice and tha we did`t let such crimes go un-punished.

It`s very possible that bush(like Henry Kissenger) won`t be able to travel outside the US for fear of being arrested as a war criminal.What a joke.....

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RE: Just out of curiousity - 1/22/2009 3:20:00 PM   
MissSepphora1


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Status: offline 		So, do you defend Muslims simply because they are "Bush's enemies", or do you defend them because you believe their practices, culture, and religion are worth defending?
I noticed you "reticuled - which you misspelled" Cheney about being in a wheel chair, and the did the same to me by saying i believe muslims to be "sub human".

Let's take a little look at the muslim religion.  They allow gays to be hanged, adulterers to be stoned, rape victims to be killed, women to be killed for "honor".  There is no gay marriage, no equal rights, no freedom of speech.  Hell in some countries BDSM or kink of any kind is illegal.

So, when you are defending the muslims and ridiculing Bush's war against them, what are you really defending?  All those things that Democrats are supposedly against.
I find this to be the utmost hypocrisy imaginable.

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RE: Just out of curiousity - 1/22/2009 3:31:43 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MissSepphora1

So, when you are defending the muslims and ridiculing Bush's war against them


(my italics above)
...interesting. Perhaps you can point us at a quote where Bush declared war against the Muslim faith.
Because what i find is this...
“Islam is a vibrant faith. Millions of our fellow citizens are Muslim. We respect the faith. We honor its traditions.”
- President Bush, October 11, 2002

http://www.muslimsforbush.com/muslims/index.html

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RE: Just out of curiousity - 1/22/2009 3:47:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		You can't defend the hypocrisy, so you attack the verbage.

Interesting.

So what about the muslim faith do you look up to philosophy? 


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ORIGINAL: philosophy

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ORIGINAL: MissSepphora1

So, when you are defending the muslims and ridiculing Bush's war against them


(my italics above)
...interesting. Perhaps you can point us at a quote where Bush declared war against the Muslim faith.
Because what i find is this...
“Islam is a vibrant faith. Millions of our fellow citizens are Muslim. We respect the faith. We honor its traditions.”
- President Bush, October 11, 2002

http://www.muslimsforbush.com/muslims/index.html

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RE: Just out of curiousity - 1/22/2009 3:49:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		Shhh...don't confuse her with facts while she's on a roll. 

And don't point out that nowhere did O59 mention Muslims...don't want her head to explode, now do we?


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RE: Just out of curiousity - 1/22/2009 3:55:51 PM   
SilverMark


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Status: offline 		Miss Sepphora, perhaps you should read a bit on the history of Christianity?....Not without issues...
Many atrocities have been in the name of Religion or the other, I am not defending Islam but, history shows
us that most religions have their low points in Mankind. The Quran, The Torah the Bible all have followers
that interpret the righteousness of killing others for what we might consider behavior that is acceptable to us.
Enough nuts to go around for every religion and sect!



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RE: Just out of curiousity - 1/22/2009 3:59:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		Silver, I do believe that more people have been killed in the name of the Bible and its associated religions than have been killed in the name of any other.  Your statement hits the nail on the head.

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RE: Just out of curiousity - 1/22/2009 4:00:01 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MissSepphora1

You can't defend the hypocrisy, so you attack the verbage.

Interesting.

So what about the muslim faith do you look up to philosophy? 




......excuse me? Are you not very good at reading comprehension?

You accuse others of hypocrisy while first suggesting that GWB declared war on Muslims and, once that particular lie is pointed out, then suggesting that picking you up on what  can only be described as a wilful inaccuracy is hypocritical?

Point out for me where i said i admired Muslims. Go on, point it out. Can't find it? Then i'll have your apology for suggesting that i look up to that faith......sadly, your performance so far in this thread does not lead me to hope you have an honourable bone in your body......oh person who desires terrorist attacks on their homeland in order to score cheap partisan points.

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RE: Just out of curiousity - 1/22/2009 4:01:31 PM   
SilverMark


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Status: offline 		Unfortunate but probably truthful!
Hope the migraine is better IK.


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RE: Just out of curiousity - 1/22/2009 4:02:25 PM   
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ORIGINAL: SilverMark

Unfortunate but probably truthful!
Hope the migraine is better IK.


After 3 long days it finally went away.  Thanks for the thought.

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RE: Just out of curiousity - 1/24/2009 11:23:41 AM   
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The whole country, as well as much of the world, was solidly behind Bush after 9/11.  He had huge approval ratings and almost unconditional support from the public and Congress.

He has only himself to blame for squandering that with poor decisions and general ineptitude.
NO QUESTION! From the rubble of the Towers, I sure took a big gulp of that kool-aide. I also can't tell you what it felt like to see him on the mound of Yankee Stadium a few weeks later. Impossible to imagine at the time, that the hole in lower Manhattan would still be there, serving as a representation the US image as well as its current economic condition. 

However, you should add stubbornness and an agenda to revenge his father for Saddam taking away his opportunity for his father's 2nd term. Few seem to remember that factor as being key and one of the back-room essential reasons for the rationalizing an invasion of Iraq.


Dammit Merc.

You just brought a tear to my eye, because I think this is historic.

You and I agree on something.

Do you think we'll get press coverage?

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RE: Just out of curiousity - 1/24/2009 11:29:02 AM   
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Has anyone else noticed we seem to be constantly distracted in our never ending pursuit of hating on everyone that doesn't agree with our politics?



Yeah, it's way too much fun to let go of it.

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