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ORIGINAL: masterforRT

More and more, I see people who call themselves slaves claiming that they only want women...or men...or couples. I have always believed that slaves are property, just like a house or a car. I don't see my car refusing to start for only one sex-so how can a slave make any decision as to who owns them?

The definition of slave from Answers.com is as follows:  
"One bound in servitude as the property of a person or household."

Property....right?


I'm interested in what the rest of you think.

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ORIGINAL: SassySarijane

I think what gets me is that in bdsm terms have different meanings a lot of times than most outside of bdsm view it. Why not use a basic bdsm definition of a term when discussing in a bdsm sense? Wouldn't that be clearer for the purposes of discussion? I know that we all have our variations on the full meanings of terms used in bdsm but the definition of slave as seen in the scene dictionary:

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From "The Dictionary of Scene-Friendly Terms" compiled by Jack Rinella:

Slave: One in a state of  voluntary servitude marked by obedience and surrender. [Rinella]
One who enjoys submission, with that submission being deep enough to elicit the feeling of being owned or fully controlled by the dominant partner. [Bannon]

comes closer than standard dictionary definitions to what probably most of us mean when we talk about slavery in bdsm.

Just my thoughts for what it's worth.

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ORIGINAL: masterforRT

More and more, I see people who call themselves slaves claiming that they only want women...or men...or couples. I have always believed that slaves are property, just like a house or a car. I don't see my car refusing to start for only one sex-so how can a slave make any decision as to who owns them?

The definition of slave from Answers.com is as follows:  
"One bound in servitude as the property of a person or household."

Property....right?

I'm interested in what the rest of you think.

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ORIGINAL: DominantDamsel

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ORIGINAL: masterforRT

More and more, I see people who call themselves slaves claiming that they only want women...or men...or couples. I have always believed that slaves are property, just like a house or a car. I don't see my car refusing to start for only one sex-so how can a slave make any decision as to who owns them?

The definition of slave from Answers.com is as follows:  
"One bound in servitude as the property of a person or household."

Property....right?

I'm interested in what the rest of you think.

I don't see the OP's commentary as being anything more than the kind of dynamic/ideas he believes in that were tossed out here for everyone's sincere consideration. He is seeking something that is not wanna be, that is not out to play and scene and grab/gimme but to literally serve said master. Why is this so amusing and so undeserving of simple courtesy and respect?

I don't get here a lot due to obligations but it seems that every time I stop by and begin reading, I find the most intolerant, disparaging, disrespectful remarks on every thread I open and choose to read.

This OP is seeking something that for him is no role-playing game. He wants a real time slave that is the true meaning of the word, who doesn't belong to some slave labor union with a list a mile long that details what she will or won't do. The man wants a slave who won't mind being simple property, who gets off on that kind of thing, and he's certainly entitled to attempt to find one here amongst the lot of you if he so desires, is he not? So what's with all the jeering and the joking? Do you have any idea how it looks?

This is not roleplay for everyone. Some actually take this serious.

Thus far from the look of this thread, I doubt he's going to have much luck in finding what he's seeking.

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ORIGINAL: DominantDamsel

^^
All right, and why is this a problem. This is his opinion, is it not?
Why does one's simple opinion on the topic of slavery generate so much hysteria and disrespect?
Furthermore, there are those who are actually reading these boards, who are also seeking subs and slaves, who
could well find the disrespect shown to another member of this lifestyle highly unappealing. Certainly how a submissive or slave behaves upon a public forum such as this in all probability also demonstrates his or her behavior in private -- along with an obvious lack of ability to know his or her place.

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People who come here and set up profiles with the title "Master" or "Dominant" do not deserve any more respect than anyone else here until they have proven they deserve respect. A spotty teenager can come here and set up a profile calling himself LordUberDom. Does not make him anything other than a spotty teenager.

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So explain, if you can, why he doesn't "deserve" respect as a simple member posting upon this forum.

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ORIGINAL: DominantDamsel

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People who come here and set up profiles with the title "Master" or "Dominant" do not deserve any more respect than anyone else here until they have proven they deserve respect. A spotty teenager can come here and set up a profile calling himself LordUberDom. Does not make him anything other than a spotty teenager.

This dominant didn't ask anyone to bow down, to call him "sir," or anything else that was out of the acceptable. So explain, if you can, why he doesn't "deserve" respect as a simple member posting upon this forum. Are we dealing with a pack of uncivil curs here? People that show no one respect until such respect is earned, thus this implies that all sense of decorum and manners have been binned? 

Please remember, the "spotty teenager" thing cuts both ways; it doesn't make those who respond to others with rudeness and a lack of civility anything more than little, snotty-acting tarts and tots masquerading as doms/submissives/slaves, now does it? Perhaps it's time for a deep look into one's mirror because when good manners and simple civility must be earned, society is truly lost.

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ORIGINAL: susie

Manners and civility are different from showing respect. You were the one that suggested that some of those that posted showed a "lack of ability to know his or her place". Perhaps you could explain what his or her place actually is?

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ORIGINAL: DominantDamsel

I would infer that one who labels himself or herself as submissive would behave, at least in some respects, politely, perhaps even in a way "in public" that demonstrates a modicum of what the word "submissive" means.

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I would hazard a guess that the dom in question that began this thread is looking for the real thing, for what is known as "the natural submissive." These are a rare breed and they don't put on and take off the label. The one's I've known and met would never behave like what is on display here on this thread, least of all in print for all to see on a public forum.

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You have one life and you have to do what you can to enjoy it, for me and clearly many people here that means actually being with someone you want. I dont think that many people would simply accept ownership from anyone just because they are a slave, and that is what you are implying. Real true slaves would do that and be meek and mild in the process. Everyone has a right to make their own choices, a slave has the right to choose who they are with. I am sure real proper slavery does exsist but it is a horrible nasty thing and trust me not something you would want to be a part of.. Of course you could always give it a go but if in your eyes the fact that I wouldnt want to do that means im playing a game, putting on a hat and am not true hell i will live with it.

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ORIGINAL: masterforRT

More and more, I see people who call themselves slaves claiming that they only want women...or men...or couples. I have always believed that slaves are property, just like a house or a car. I don't see my car refusing to start for only one sex-so how can a slave make any decision as to who owns them?

The definition of slave from Answers.com is as follows:  
"One bound in servitude as the property of a person or household."

Property....right?

I'm interested in what the rest of you think.

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ORIGINAL: DominantDamsel

^^
All right, and why is this a problem. This is his opinion, is it not?
Why does one's simple opinion on the topic of slavery generate so much hysteria and disrespect?
Furthermore, there are those who are actually reading these boards, who are also seeking subs and slaves, who
could well find the disrespect shown to another member of this lifestyle highly unappealing. Certainly how a submissive or slave behaves upon a public forum such as this in all probability also demonstrates his or her behavior in private -- along with an obvious lack of ability to know his or her place.