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KnightofMists -> RE: Slaves with requirements... (1/21/2009 1:18:45 PM)

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ORIGINAL: masterforRT

I don't see my car refusing to start for only one sex-so how can a slave make any decision as to who owns them?



mmmmmmm  comparing a living thinking human being to a object ... WOW..   ... I guess some human beings might be living.... but lack on the thinking part.... so... mmmmmm with that logic... I suppose you could expect that living human being might be comparable to a car since they are you know not thinking and they both move... of course one uses gas and others make gas... but I suppose that is close enough for those non-thinking living human beings comparing other non-thinking living human beings to cars.  Both are obviously property because they can't think!  wow... this non-thinking logic is rather taxing to the brain..... I thinking I am thinking to much here to really understand the logic of comparing a person to a car!




Lockit -> RE: Slaves with requirements... (1/21/2009 1:21:31 PM)

Well car's don't have sex... if your property isn't givin it out... it might be a car.




KnightofMists -> RE: Slaves with requirements... (1/21/2009 1:23:07 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Lockit

Well car's don't have sex... if your property isn't givin it out... it might be a car.


mmmmmmmm are you sure????  are you with your car all the time... do you know what they do when your not looking?




WinsomeDefiance -> RE: Slaves with requirements... (1/21/2009 1:23:35 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

Seriously, why do we even let them go online?  We need an anonymous hotline for people to call, get rounded up, thrown in a dungeon and then picked up by the first random person who comes along to take them. 

That's the only way we know we're getting REAL SLAVES and not these pathetic posers who dare to actually claim they deserve some sort of voice in the matter.


Damn, on a purely visceral level - that scenario is kinda HOT.  Well, it is hot up to the point where I stop to think just who might decide to own me forRT......ahh bugger, there I go....THINKING again...




Lockit -> RE: Slaves with requirements... (1/21/2009 1:24:09 PM)

ROFL... damn thing... that lil bitch! 




KnightofMists -> RE: Slaves with requirements... (1/21/2009 1:26:19 PM)

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ORIGINAL: feydeplume

*thinks he is just hoping that posting something will get people to look at his profile*


mmmmmm well he's posted before... and I am sure he will come back with how everyone is so RUDE and and insult to this lifestyle.. after all he is a REAL Master and deserves respect and if you don't your obviously not REAL..... just a fake poser like all these so-called slaves that reject him as a Master!




KnightofMists -> RE: Slaves with requirements... (1/21/2009 1:28:17 PM)

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ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance

Well, it is hot up to the point where I stop to think just who might decide to own me forRT......


Well..... A REAL Master of course is going to decide that..... so you have nothing to fear!!!!




Amaros -> RE: Slaves with requirements... (1/21/2009 1:30:08 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ElizabethAnne

Hello Amaros,

Hey now, he's here, you get to keep him!    I'm pretty sure he wouldn't get much support from "our" side of things either.

I wish you well,

Elizabeth...yeah...from a couple of solar systems over.
Welcome to Earth.




rednicky -> RE: Slaves with requirements... (1/21/2009 1:31:25 PM)

feydeplume, sorry but that guess doesn't really make much sense. Since when would anyone who doesn't agree with this guy want to look at the man's profile anyway?




KnightofMists -> RE: Slaves with requirements... (1/21/2009 1:33:16 PM)

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Elizabeth...yeah...from a couple of solar systems over.


DAMN.... a spy in the room!!!!   How the hell can we sell our garbage as true Masters when spys slip in!!!!   Who the hell is watching the door!!!!




WinsomeDefiance -> RE: Slaves with requirements... (1/21/2009 1:33:34 PM)

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ORIGINAL: rednicky

feydeplume, sorry but that guess doesn't really make much sense. Since when would anyone who doesn't agree with this guy want to look at the man's profile anyway?


Umm....(blushes)  I took a peek at it.  I'm just curious that way.




KnightofMists -> RE: Slaves with requirements... (1/21/2009 1:34:24 PM)

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ORIGINAL: rednicky

feydeplume, sorry but that guess doesn't really make much sense. Since when would anyone who doesn't agree with this guy want to look at the man's profile anyway?


Masochists are silly that way!!!




akisha -> RE: Slaves with requirements... (1/21/2009 1:35:01 PM)

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ORIGINAL: rednicky

feydeplume, sorry but that guess doesn't really make much sense. Since when would anyone who doesn't agree with this guy want to look at the man's profile anyway?


It's kinda like coming up on a really bad car accident red, sometimes you are just compelled to peek hehehe




RCdc -> RE: Slaves with requirements... (1/21/2009 1:35:14 PM)

Not all property is mindless and I would go so far as to say that all types of property come with restrictions or specific requirements before and after purchase.
 
You also have to define what you believe a slave is.  If they are unowned, are they technically property?  If they aren't property, then that would mean that they have their own minds to decide until maybe they are taken under your ownership?  Once the property becomes yours, then you have a say - not until then as remember that slavery is illegal and what you get is 'consensual' slavery in a sense.
 
the.dark.




KnightofMists -> RE: Slaves with requirements... (1/21/2009 1:39:46 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark

.... If they are unowned, are they technically property?  If they aren't property, then that would mean that they have their own minds to decide until maybe they are taken under your ownership?  Once the property becomes yours, then you have a say - not until then as remember that slavery is illegal and what you get is 'consensual' slavery in a sense.
 
the.dark.

 
Very simple logic... and I am surprized how such simple logic escapes some people.




sirsholly -> RE: Slaves with requirements... (1/21/2009 1:44:56 PM)

a Master/slave relationship is first agreed on by both parties. Before commiting, the slave has as much to say about the terms as the Master. The slave AGREES to be owned and she choses who owns her.




whiteslavebitch -> RE: Slaves with requirements... (1/21/2009 1:47:51 PM)

Perhaps because we are able to choose to whom we offer our slavery, and only then after all negotiation is done are we a slave to our chosen master. Until that is done, we are free to make any choice we want to.




ModeratorSixteen -> RE: Slaves with requirements... (1/21/2009 1:49:23 PM)

Enough already.




feydeplume -> RE: Slaves with requirements... (1/21/2009 1:54:17 PM)

*sigh* my bads everyone. I was hijacking so my posts were removed. On a more serious note, unowned slaves are often in a difficult emotional place and might actually chose a not so well fitting owner rather than have no owner at all. 




NCNutCase -> RE: Slaves with requirements... (1/21/2009 1:57:15 PM)


By definition a slave is property… in historical contexts of the word, an unowned slave can be claimed by whomever apprehends them…

Naturally I do not support the apprehension of unowned/unclaimed slaves in our lifestyle… which is why I personally do not advocate the use of this term. It’s an obvious exaggeration and misuse of the term…

A slave has no right to decide when the ‘relationship’ with his/her owner is over… yet in our lifestyle I hope their right to end the relationship is honored. Which makes them, by definition, not a slave…

But as mentioned, it is common to water down the term to make it applicable to relationships within SM… but when we start using words per "our" definition as opposed to "the" definition, we are setting ourselves up to be misunderstood.

I was recently corrected because my personal view of the term "judge" did not necessarily match the dictionary definition, regardless of the fact I view/use the word much like most others I know do. But I also had to recognize that the person correcting me was right…

Also per the literal use of the term slave in the historical sense, any citizen who is insulted by the actions/words of a slave has the right to discipline that slave. This is obviously completely against the standard protocol in our lifestyle.




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