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Gwynvyd -> RE: Slaves with requirements... (1/21/2009 3:41:05 PM)
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The origonal as written slavery term that you speak of from the 1800's is illegal. It is banned in many Western countries, ours included. So we can not use that exact term along with WIITWD. It simply does not fit.
Just as Gay used to mean Happy, Words change. Hell, Fagot is a small peice of wood, but that term changed as well.
Now when you say some one is Gay, you first think they are homosexual. Not merely in a happy state of being, and gleeful. The termonoligy has changed.
In SMBD and D/s the term slave is generally understood to mean one of consentual ownership. In our modern age the old time Slavery is seriously frowned apon, and outlawed. So We know that when slave is mentioned this old term is not the one ment. ~ It being illegal and serously against the TOS.
As to the inherant worth issue.. by refering to a slave as having the worth of a peice of property or a car the inferred conclusion is that they are less worthy then another non slave human being. You did not have to come out and state this. It was inferred. ( Damn those critical thinking courses in College )
Modern day *consentual slaves* do give the gift of their submission it is theirs to chose to give, ours to chose to accept. It can not be taken with out being offered first. ~ Since the 1800's definition of slavery is null and void in the West in our times.
However if you go over to Asia, and some other places overseas people will gladly sell you another person. It is just not a reality in the BDSM accepted culture of the West to literialy buy another human being, or capture them. No matter how many of the Gorean books one reads. ~ I do not know if you are Gorean, but the capture of free range slaves is an idea expressed in the Gor books. It again lacks the consentual aspect that is the embodiment of what it is that we do in our BDSM D/s culture.
As to my questions and observations it was an honest question. I am in school now to become a psychologist. Human behavior and thought patterns are always an interest to me.
I honestly can not think of a way that a person would want someone who honestly did not want them.
To me this would apear as someone with either very poor social skills, obsessive or someone who has a dissocial personality disorder. These are the same personality traits and types that turn out to be rapists, and commit other serious crimes.
It was a serious question.
I do not chose the flame others on the boards. I might ask some uncomfortable questions. But I in general do not flame.
Hopefully this posting will help you to understand others stances on "slavery" in our community.
Gwyn
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