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RE: When someone throws a guilt trip your way - 1/22/2009 12:36:32 AM   
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RE: When someone throws a guilt trip your way - 1/22/2009 3:40:23 AM   
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Well yeah, maybe a bit more sensitivity--but then again---you didn't choose him, you were honest (which is huge IMHO)  and it appears from his response-it isn't the first time he's used it.
 
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RE: When someone throws a guilt trip your way - 1/22/2009 3:45:28 AM   
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Once you've already said "thanks but no thanks" you don't owe them anything else. If in person, you could just say there's no chemistry and if they still don't give up, well that's when "what part of no don't you understand" becomes useful.

If it's cyber, now you've learned why so many women don't respond at all. Because guys think any conversation means you are still available if they just keep at it. At least you haven't had anyone tell you in response to your no thanks that you're too fat/ugly/whatever to fuck anyway. That will happen, unfortunately.

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RE: When someone throws a guilt trip your way - 1/22/2009 3:58:27 AM   
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I have had the same thing happen to me in the past. I say," No thanks we are not a match. I wish you well on your search". Those who have been crass enough to ask why have got a number of responses. Sometimes it has been"may I ask why?" and I say, "sure go ahead but I am not going to answer". They always want to argue with you when you respond back to "why". I have had to remind many that I doubt they picked me for anything but that I was appealing to them.

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RE: When someone throws a guilt trip your way - 1/22/2009 4:45:51 AM   
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I've only read the first page of replies before responding.  So, if I'm being redundant, please just skip my post.

When a person without a face/upper body picture contacts me and asks me if we can discuss potential, I tell them right then and there, "We can, after you provide me with a face picture/upper body picture, while I do not require a Brad Pitt clone, I DO require any person I consider to not repulse me in the manner that The Humpback of Notre Dame does".

If they then send their photo (which quite a few do, as they probably have standards of their own and understand other people do also), and then ask me flat out if I am or am not attracted to them, I will tell them, honestly, whether or not I am. 

Personally, I think, if someone has the stones to ask "Why are you not interested/attracted to me?" Then they should also have the stones to hear the honest answer, whatever that answer may be.

There is another expression, "If you do NOT want the answer, do NOT ask the question."  I do not feel guilty for being honest...ever.  I will do my best to be polite about it, and not say something like, "because you look like a troll that got ran over by the ugly truck".  But, I have no problem saying, because I am not physically attracted to you, I'm sure someone else will be, I wish you well with your continued search".

So while many people say that you should give another reason other than appearances as your reason for turning someone down, I would have to disagree.  Most people tout honesty as an important trait.  How can it be important if one cannot handle an honest answer?  While it may sting a bit, at least you know you were not lied to.  I personally would rather hear someone tell me the reason they rejected me was because I was too heavy, my hair was too curly, or my smile was a bit too crooked than hear them say, "it's not you, it's me".  This way, I know they rejected me based upon some silly superficial thing rather than something they are not willing to share thereby not allowing me an opportunity to improve myself.  Since that is what I would prefer, I have absolutely NO guilt in providing the same for others.

You however need to do what is comfortable for you.  If you prefer to be honest and base it on appearances (or any other criteria) be certain to let them know that while you may not be attracted to them, that it does not mean the entire universe will feel the same way...give them a way to feel a bit positive about themselves and allow them to feel a bit disgruntled with your superficiality/methodology...it's ok.   If they start harrassing you (beyond a typical, "well you're just shallow" reply, use the features provided by CM (block, delete).  Most, if told up front of your standards, will not bother to harrass you when you reject them - at least in my experience.

I hope you find a way that works for you so you do not have to feel 'guilty'.

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RE: When someone throws a guilt trip your way - 1/22/2009 4:59:14 AM   
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i haven't read any post other than the op.
In my opinion, guilt can be compared to playing ball with a kid. They will throw the big rubber ball at you and you have two choices. You can allow it to bounce off, doing no harm, or you can catch it. Once caught, you then have to deal with it.


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RE: When someone throws a guilt trip your way - 1/22/2009 8:12:58 AM   
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Master Ironbear, you truly sound like a man to be respected!

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RE: When someone throws a guilt trip your way - 1/22/2009 8:31:51 AM   
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Only when I have earned the respect not before.  

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RE: When someone throws a guilt trip your way - 1/22/2009 8:40:37 AM   
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Pfffffffffft! Guilt is for those who have done something wrong and its coming back to haunt their conscience. If you were honest from the get-go, you have nothing to be guilty about. Dont confuse feeling guilty with feeling sorry for.

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RE: When someone throws a guilt trip your way - 1/22/2009 8:41:49 AM   
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well put, Sir.

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RE: When someone throws a guilt trip your way - 1/22/2009 9:11:00 AM   
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You're attracted to certain type and I don't think it can be changed unless you change your self...

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RE: When someone throws a guilt trip your way - 1/22/2009 1:03:17 PM   
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Hand it back to them and say that you only carry your own baggage.

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RE: When someone throws a guilt trip your way - 1/22/2009 1:07:17 PM   
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And with Petruchio and Iron Bear around we get a bit of poetry and Latin too. 

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RE: When someone throws a guilt trip your way - 1/22/2009 1:18:08 PM   
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if i'm holding up to and living by my own set of standards, there's not a damn thing anyone can say or do to make me feel guilty, no matter how hard they try to throw the guilt trip on me.

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RE: When someone throws a guilt trip your way - 1/22/2009 4:59:31 PM   
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Zmey...I'm confused, did you mean to reply to someone else...cause I really dont wanna change the type I'm attracted to...I'm good with it:)

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RE: When someone throws a guilt trip your way - 1/22/2009 5:12:17 PM   
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I usually just do the sheepish shrug and smile and say something like, "I like you, but I'm just not feeling the chemistry..."   Enough of the "ugly" ones have felt the same thing about other women, so they usually get it and leave it alone, and even wish me well, as I do them.



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