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2008 Oscar nominees are ... - 1/22/2009 8:59:32 PM   
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The 2008 Oscar nominees are out and here is the link for you film fans.  What are your favorites and bets for the various categories?  Are there any films you think should have been nominated that were not?  Are there any nominated that you think do not deserve it?
 
For Best Picture the nominees are as follows:
 
Slumdog Millionaire, Milk, Frost/Nixon, The Reader and The Curious Case of Benjamin Button.

http://www.oscar.com/nominees/?pn=nominees

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RE: 2008 Oscar nominees are ... - 1/22/2009 9:21:34 PM   
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Even though either Ledger or Brolin will win, I am so super stoked that RDJ got a best supporting actor nomination. I laughed so hard when I heard that.

I think all of the nominations this year were fair and well deserved. It's good to see comedic roles and a Superhero movie to get recognition, that's pretty rare.

The only thing that surprised me was that Leonardo Dicaprio didn't get a best actor nomination for revolutionary road. And Emile Hersch deserved a best supporting actor nomination, so did James Franco, but I guess they probably didn't want to dedicate an entire category to people in Milk haha

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RE: 2008 Oscar nominees are ... - 1/22/2009 9:25:09 PM   
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That was a surprise for me as well. 

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The only thing that surprised me was that Leonardo Dicaprio didn't get a best actor nomination for revolutionary road.


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RE: 2008 Oscar nominees are ... - 1/22/2009 11:23:27 PM   
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Yawn...sorry profoundly unimpressed

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RE: 2008 Oscar nominees are ... - 1/23/2009 4:25:47 AM   
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I thought The Dark Knight was entertaining, but I don't see Ledger's portrayal of the Joker as oscar-worthy.  If he had not died, I doubt he'd be on the list.  Frankly, I never thought he was that great of an actor.  I thought most of the movies he did sucked.  I haven't seen any of these other films.  I do plan on seeing The Wrestler.  From what I can tell, it should be a really good movie.  I'm kind of surprised Gran Torino didn't make it.  It should have, it was extremely well done. 

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RE: 2008 Oscar nominees are ... - 1/23/2009 4:34:23 AM   
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I thought The Dark Knight was entertaining, but I don't see Ledger's portrayal of the Joker as oscar-worthy.  If he had not died, I doubt he'd be on the list.  Frankly, I never thought he was that great of an actor.  I thought most of the movies he did sucked.  I haven't seen any of these other films.  I do plan on seeing The Wrestler.  From what I can tell, it should be a really good movie.  I'm kind of surprised Gran Torino didn't make it.  It should have, it was extremely well done. 


Ledger's portrayal was getting Oscar buzz while it was still shooting. He would still have been nominated if he hadn't died, but he probably wouldn't have won (about 99% chance he's going to win haha). As for his body of work, while he did make a lot of shitty teen films, his later work (Brokeback Mountain, I'm Not There, etc) was fucking brilliant. He was one of the very few talented actors in his demographic. The Wrestler is a good movie, but really hard to watch. The only nomination anyone thought Gran Torino would get was best actor for Clint Eastwood, and from what I've heard, it's pretty much just "Dirty Harry growls at asian kids to get off his lawn." While it's a great character, he's done it a jillion times before and really didn't deserve the nomination.

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RE: 2008 Oscar nominees are ... - 1/23/2009 4:41:43 AM   
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I agree with you that if he did not die "from and accidental overdose" (don't get me started on this issue) he would not be on the list.  How come everyone less just OD'S but movie stars do it by accident?????

As for all the talk while it was being filmed, that was from the studio making the film and his PR firm.


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RE: 2008 Oscar nominees are ... - 1/23/2009 4:57:18 AM   
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I agree with you that if he did not die "from and accidental overdose" (don't get me started on this issue) he would not be on the list.  How come everyone less just OD'S but movie stars do it by accident?????

As for all the talk while it was being filmed, that was from the studio making the film and his PR firm.




It's an accidental overdose because he wasn't taking much more than the perscribed amount, and it was the combination of perscriptions that killed him. I had actually heard that he would get the Oscar from a gaffer on Dark Knight haha (I'm absolutely positive that you're right that a lot of the buzz was obviously generated by the studio, people were talking about it before it really got out). It was a great performance, and it pretty much set the bar for future villains in the superhero genre. While I personally don't think he deserves to win, he did deserve the nomination. Josh Brolin should win (but he won't).

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RE: 2008 Oscar nominees are ... - 1/23/2009 4:59:08 AM   
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Ledger's portrayal was getting Oscar buzz while it was still shooting. He would still have been nominated if he hadn't died, but he probably wouldn't have won (about 99% chance he's going to win haha). As for his body of work, while he did make a lot of shitty teen films, his later work (Brokeback Mountain, I'm Not There, etc) was fucking brilliant. He was one of the very few talented actors in his demographic. The Wrestler is a good movie, but really hard to watch. The only nomination anyone thought Gran Torino would get was best actor for Clint Eastwood, and from what I've heard, it's pretty much just "Dirty Harry growls at asian kids to get off his lawn." While it's a great character, he's done it a jillion times before and really didn't deserve the nomination.


Well I thought Brokeback Mountain was dreadful.  It was a chore to stay awake through that yawnfest.  Like I said, I enjoyed The Dark Knight.  It was entertaining, and it was certainly better than most of these overly done comic book superhero movies.  But it didn't strike me as brilliant. 

Gran Torino is not a reincarnation of Dirty Harry by any means.  Eastwood did a really good job with the characters in the story, and he delved a lot more deeply into the main character's mind than he ever did with Dirty Harry. 

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RE: 2008 Oscar nominees are ... - 1/23/2009 5:04:14 AM   
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I agree with you that if he did not die "from and accidental overdose" (don't get me started on this issue) he would not be on the list.  How come everyone less just OD'S but movie stars do it by accident?????

As for all the talk while it was being filmed, that was from the studio making the film and his PR firm.




It's an accidental overdose because he wasn't taking much more than the perscribed amount, and it was the combination of perscriptions that killed him.


So with this thinking if I don't take much more beer/whisky than I should, it's an accident?  If I take not much more painn killers/beer than I should it's an accident?  Or not much more crack, herion (insert any drug here)

If I know the amount I am suppose to take, and I decide to take more, why is that considered an accident?  If you or I died in this manner the news would read we died from an overdose.  It is his PR firm using spin to keep the dream alive

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RE: 2008 Oscar nominees are ... - 1/23/2009 5:06:51 AM   
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  I don't think The Curious Case of Benjamin Buttons deserves to be nominated. We made ourselves watch as much as we could and well, I'll just be polite and say "boring and lame" were the nicest words we could find.

As for Heath Ledger, his Oscar nod for The Joker is well deserved. He put the "creep" into creepy in that role. As for his accidental overdose, I can see it happening easily because at the time, I was on the exact same medications, Ambien and Xanax. You would be surprised at how easy it would be to OD, I had problems with a regular dose once or twice. Do you know how freaky it is to watch your house breath in and out and then your computer turn into a moss-covered rock?  Ohhhhhhhhhhhh yaaaaaaaa, and the doctor wanted to know why I quit them cold-turkey!


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RE: 2008 Oscar nominees are ... - 1/23/2009 5:08:45 AM   
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Well I thought Brokeback Mountain was dreadful.  It was a chore to stay awake through that yawnfest.  Like I said, I enjoyed The Dark Knight.  It was entertaining, and it was certainly better than most of these overly done comic book superhero movies.  But it didn't strike me as brilliant. 

Gran Torino is not a reincarnation of Dirty Harry by any means.  Eastwood did a really good job with the characters in the story, and he delved a lot more deeply into the main character's mind than he ever did with Dirty Harry. 


To each their own! I thought Brokeback Mountain, especially from an acting standpoint, was incredible.

The reason so many people are talking about Dark Knight being brilliant is because it pretty much reinvented the genre, and brought realism to films that are typical over done and overly reliant on effects. While obviously it had some effects, they were done in a believable way and the technology behind the gadgets, etc was explained to the audience, which almost never happens (even though it also happened, to a lesser degree, in Iron Man, which is arguably a more enjoyable film but less award friendly). Expect a lot fewer of the popcorn/bright colour/sensory overload comic adaptations (example, Watchmen! Which I am super excited for).

I'm seeing Gran Torino this weekend, so I should have a more informed opinion soon, that's just what I've heard from everyone I know who's seen it. Even if it is a Dirty Harry reincarnation, I'll still probably like it haha.

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RE: 2008 Oscar nominees are ... - 1/23/2009 5:10:16 AM   
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Do you know how freaky it is to watch your house breath in and out and then your computer turn into a moss-covered rock?  Ohhhhhhhhhhhh yaaaaaaaa, and the doctor wanted to know why I quit them cold-turkey!



No I don't and that sounds really creepy, I hope I never need those two drugs. 

But at least with the house breathing I would not have to dust as often

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RE: 2008 Oscar nominees are ... - 1/23/2009 5:15:08 AM   
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So with this thinking if I don't take much more beer/whisky than I should, it's an accident?  If I take not much more painn killers/beer than I should it's an accident?  Or not much more crack, herion (insert any drug here)

If I know the amount I am suppose to take, and I decide to take more, why is that considered an accident?  If you or I died in this manner the news would read we died from an overdose.  It is his PR firm using spin to keep the dream alive


I know people who have overdosed by accident (and survived, thank god), as well as people who have overdosed while attempting suicide/getting high and being retarded. Even if you're not famous, they make a note on your chart that it was accidental because that means that you won't be put on psychiatric hold. Then you just get a lecture on taking proper dosages and you get sent home. It's not that hard to accidently overdose, especially on things like sleeping pills because if they don't work right away, they still effect your mental capacity. You get frustrated and you start to think "more will make me sleep faster/work better." I had an experience like this with nighttime cold medicine haha, which is luckily much less harmful than perscription sleep aids and anti-depressants.

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RE: 2008 Oscar nominees are ... - 1/23/2009 5:15:43 AM   
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I thought The Dark Knight was entertaining, but I don't see Ledger's portrayal of the Joker as oscar-worthy.  If he had not died, I doubt he'd be on the list.  Frankly, I never thought he was that great of an actor


I dont agree, I thought to take a role that was so pressed on our minds as being Jack Nicholson possibly one of the best actors around and make it his own, actually unrecognisable to the original and yet totally believable was no mean feat.

Here was a beautiful man who was grotesque not just in his very impressive make up but his psychosis. For me he will go down as one of the best psychopaths, not as good as Cagney but then who is.

Also I adore his films, he was just starting to mature as an actor from being a stand out teen movie star to someone with real screen presence.

I do believe that had he not died he would have been on the list, he may not of won but then I often disagree with the Oscars (seriously Johnny Depp in Pirates SO SO SO should have won)

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RE: 2008 Oscar nominees are ... - 1/23/2009 5:23:38 AM   
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I'm not sure why some people have an instant reaction to the mention of Clint Eastwood and immediately assume, without having actually seen the film, that it's an instant rehash of his Dirty Harry films... those were buried a long time ago. I also thought Gran Torino was deserving of a 'Director' nominee.

Ledger's portrayal was good in the Dark Knight, as were the other actors' portrayals in that film - none of which, in  my opinion, were Oscar-worthy. The only reason (I believe) that there was such a buzz was due to all the hype onset regarding Ledger's methodology which was then subsequently leaked to the media who then ran with it as they tend to do.

For me to see Revolutionary Road again I'd have to be tied down with my eyes forced open. Should such an unlikely scenario occur, it will be the only time I've slept with my eyes open.

The Curious Case of Benjamin Button - was a superb story, kept me enchanted throughout but I did not see Pitt's role as Oscar-worthy, although agree with nominations for Cinematography, Writing and Art Direction - both were excellent.

Gran Torino should have received nominations

Slumdog Millionaire - I hope wins in all nominated categories

Defiance should have received more than 'Music' nominees - profound tale of human endurance/determination.

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Ledger's portrayal was getting Oscar buzz while it was still shooting. He would still have been nominated if he hadn't died, but he probably wouldn't have won (about 99% chance he's going to win haha). As for his body of work, while he did make a lot of shitty teen films, his later work (Brokeback Mountain, I'm Not There, etc) was fucking brilliant. He was one of the very few talented actors in his demographic. The Wrestler is a good movie, but really hard to watch. The only nomination anyone thought Gran Torino would get was best actor for Clint Eastwood, and from what I've heard, it's pretty much just "Dirty Harry growls at asian kids to get off his lawn." While it's a great character, he's done it a jillion times before and really didn't deserve the nomination.


Well I thought Brokeback Mountain was dreadful.  It was a chore to stay awake through that yawnfest.  Like I said, I enjoyed The Dark Knight.  It was entertaining, and it was certainly better than most of these overly done comic book superhero movies.  But it didn't strike me as brilliant. 

Gran Torino is not a reincarnation of Dirty Harry by any means.  Eastwood did a really good job with the characters in the story, and he delved a lot more deeply into the main character's mind than he ever did with Dirty Harry. 


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RE: 2008 Oscar nominees are ... - 1/23/2009 5:37:27 AM   
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RE: 2008 Oscar nominees are ... - 1/23/2009 5:43:54 AM   
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RE: 2008 Oscar nominees are ... - 1/23/2009 8:35:32 AM   
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RE: 2008 Oscar nominees are ... - 1/23/2009 2:44:53 PM   
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If memory serves correct, Heath Ledger's performance in Dark Knight was gathering high praise during production and before his death.  I thought his portrayal of the Joker to be chilling and very believable in a world where we have mass murder trading cards and the like.  And Brokeback Moutain is a profoundly poetic movie to me.

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