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RE: How do you like to detox after an overdose of sugar? - 1/23/2009 12:53:23 PM   
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Get a pedometer.  Wear it all of the time.  make goals and increase your steps each day.  You need to walk a lot to lose calories.  A lot.

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RE: How do you like to detox after an overdose of sugar? - 1/23/2009 12:55:49 PM   
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Thank you. I will be, even if others think it's silly or take for granted cleaning house and going out for a few hours, isn't always easy for every one else.


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RE: How do you like to detox after an overdose of sugar? - 1/23/2009 12:56:48 PM   
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*due to the misunderstanding that sometimes when I am communicating I a m making excuses I am putting this disclaimer on my post This is not an excuse Nobody take it for an excuse.


This is a bit of a hijack from your post topic but....

Maybe the reason some here give you a hard time is because they haven't had the benefit of "knowing" you over the years. They are unaware of your history, your diagnosis and the progress that you have made over the years. I know that I have followed your posts over the last four or five years now and I know a fair bit of your history...and even I get very frustrated sometimes reading your posts. I can remember when you first came on Collarme under your old screen name and your posts at that time were practically impossible to read. I believe at that time you were still living in a group home and had not really had any opportunity in your life to live independently...or even somewhat independently as you are doing now. Maybe if you shared some of that and your diagnosis it would help others to understand why you appear to be a bit freer in the boundaries regarding things you share here and also why it takes a few times (and sometimes more) for you to be able to apply the things that you obviously have a desire to apply...especially when those things require some real effort to put into place. I hope you don't take that wrong and I'm not trying to make excuses for you either...but the reality is that you do have a few challenges that most others here do not have to deal with every day.

Just to let you know...I HAVE seen huge progress in you and you should be proud of the positive changes that you have managed to make. Don't give up and continue making those changes.

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RE: How do you like to detox after an overdose of sugar? - 1/23/2009 12:57:14 PM   
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I don't think house cleaning is easy for anyone!   

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RE: How do you like to detox after an overdose of sugar? - 1/23/2009 1:00:19 PM   
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Uhmm, well......I let someone else do an awful lot of it in my house..........

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RE: How do you like to detox after an overdose of sugar? - 1/23/2009 1:00:57 PM   
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When I don't eat it I don't crave it.  I can go a year lets say, with out icecream, because I don't desire it, but then when someone brings me some and I eat it because they thought they were being kind and bought me some, THEN that's when I want it and will eat it and crave it.

It's the same way with chocolate, or brownies, or cakes, or cookies, or potato chips. I don't want it until I start eating it.

THAT'S when I start craving it and wanting it and maybe binging on it.


Well you have just gotta do whatever works for you, actually trying is really impressive i tend not to bother. I do think though working on your self control would be such a good thing for you. I know that you are saying thats how it works but it really shouldnt, You should be able to have the stuff you enjoy without the cravings. Also if you have over indulged and people offer you stuff it really isnt impolite to say no (honestly it took me ages to realise that, my nan used to offer me food all the time and I thought its only polite to say yes and I then over heard her calling me greedy)

Sounds like you have an ace relationship with your Daddy, seriously ask him to help support you with this, that can be a godsend. Also some motivation (i know health should be enough but it isnt) Like promising to treat yourself to something you like, if you reach a specific target, so thats another one as well set yourself targets.

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RE: How do you like to detox after an overdose of sugar? - 1/23/2009 1:02:06 PM   
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Uhmm, well......I let someone else do an awful lot of it in my house..........


I wish.  I need to find a sub male to get the job done!


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RE: How do you like to detox after an overdose of sugar? - 1/23/2009 1:06:09 PM   
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Mist, not a grouphome, no, because I have been out of the group home since I was 18, But I was very sheltered and, didn't get much contact with the outside world. And I wasn't going to school to finish my deploma, or anything really, just hiding here in my hole. I didn't have ambitions or goals to go live on my own, because nothing had ever inspired me to. My bf was someone I'd never live with full time in a million years, and we were not honestly compatible to date let alone live in.

Then I met Daddy, and I wanted my own place with him, I wanted to be live in full time, I want my own place I dream of my own place. I'm going to be saving money as much as I can with trying to pay off my debt, to eventually be able to afford a place.

I have dreams now, to be able to save enough money and work hard enough, to be one of the very few I know who can afford a house outright and not pay a 30 year mortgage.

I have said I'd go into things if people really cares, as to why I am fat, or why my situation is the way it is * or what ever it is people may not understand*
and I was basically told by a few they didn't give a rats ass, about the why, if I wasn't a fat lump now I wouldn't be in the state I am.

Which is true, but they'd rather make assumptions, that someone who's fat now has always been fat. Or they'd rather assume I am a spoilt twit who should be spanked and sent back to biological mommy.


I think the problem could be that, I think that's the problem. I'm not complaining, I'm not asking for advice, sometimes I just want to TALK. that's all.

So you know, I post something put a comment out there, and people not realizing you just want to talk and reach out, you know be with people, even if albeit it is online, think you're whining or complaining, or want something other than company.


Thank you, That does mean a lot. Sometimes admist all the picking, people can do, you don't feel any one noticed the good you've done, like choose to use a program that has spell check built in, so you're more comprehensible than before, they just notice the things they wish to pick on.


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*due to the misunderstanding that sometimes when I am communicating I a m making excuses I am putting this disclaimer on my post This is not an excuse Nobody take it for an excuse.


This is a bit of a hijack from your post topic but....

Maybe the reason some here give you a hard time is because they haven't had the benefit of "knowing" you over the years. They are unaware of your history, your diagnosis and the progress that you have made over the years. I know that I have followed your posts over the last four or five years now and I know a fair bit of your history...and even I get very frustrated sometimes reading your posts. I can remember when you first came on Collarme under your old screen name and your posts at that time were practically impossible to read. I believe at that time you were still living in a group home and had not really had any opportunity in your life to live independently...or even somewhat independently as you are doing now. Maybe if you shared some of that and your diagnosis it would help others to understand why you appear to be a bit freer in the boundaries regarding things you share here and also why it takes a few times (and sometimes more) for you to be able to apply the things that you obviously have a desire to apply...especially when those things require some real effort to put into place. I hope you don't take that wrong and I'm not trying to make excuses for you either...but the reality is that you do have a few challenges that most others here do not have to deal with every day.

Just to let you know...I HAVE seen huge progress in you and you should be proud of the positive changes that you have managed to make. Don't give up and continue making those changes.



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RE: How do you like to detox after an overdose of sugar? - 1/23/2009 1:12:52 PM   
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I have to work on that, There's times my family invite me out to dinner, meaning absolutely no harm, and the place they choose to go out to, is absolutely horrid as far as health of the food goes, but I don't want to be left out, and eat whatever I can scrounge here, so I go and I eat, even though I should say no thanks, because I KNOW the foods bad for me and I feel SHITTY after eating it.

In fact, I've already made a very special request tonight of mom whos making meatloaf for dinner. I asked her to put it on a tray where the greese can drain AWAY from the meat, and not just puddle and coagulate there on the meat. And that was advice from someone on here, on collar me, in the thread about sneaking veggies into meat.

So people who say I never take advice but ask for it all the time, ha! take that* said laughingly and in all good fun*

Daddy and I do have a good relationship, and I have asked him, to help me, and to please  do not buy me sugary things, because you want to treat me special, and most women you know in your life in the past have expected treats, like candy, when you want to show them something special.

We've agreed when I finish school and get my diploma, there'll be a huge reward, like going to a kinky club in Sanfranscio and play in ways I Want, that we normally don't play. And if we can negotiate treats for that, hell why not weight loss.


Actually we have a treat in mind. I asked him one time if when I was skinny he'd buy me this one dress I loved,  Daddy says, when I loose all the weight I want to, and need to, he will buy me a new dress of my choice, and take me out to show me off in it.
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Well you have just gotta do whatever works for you, actually trying is really impressive i tend not to bother. I do think though working on your self control would be such a good thing for you. I know that you are saying thats how it works but it really shouldnt, You should be able to have the stuff you enjoy without the cravings. Also if you have over indulged and people offer you stuff it really isnt impolite to say no (honestly it took me ages to realise that, my nan used to offer me food all the time and I thought its only polite to say yes and I then over heard her calling me greedy)

Sounds like you have an ace relationship with your Daddy, seriously ask him to help support you with this, that can be a godsend. Also some motivation (i know health should be enough but it isnt) Like promising to treat yourself to something you like, if you reach a specific target, so thats another one as well set yourself targets.


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RE: How do you like to detox after an overdose of sugar? - 1/23/2009 1:16:29 PM   
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i usually drink milk it helps me

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RE: How do you like to detox after an overdose of sugar? - 1/23/2009 1:24:08 PM   
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Thats ace YHMA, I totally wish you luck it really sounds like you want it and that is so important :)

Im sure you will get there as said in what about bob "baby steps baby steps"

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RE: How do you like to detox after an overdose of sugar? - 1/23/2009 1:24:30 PM   
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Actually we have a treat in mind. I asked him one time if when I was skinny he'd buy me this one dress I loved,  Daddy says, when I loose all the weight I want to, and need to, he will buy me a new dress of my choice, and take me out to show me off in it.



Find a picture of that dress, and tape it to the refrigerator, or cabinet where your "challenging" foods and snacks are kept. It's nearly impossible to ask your family to go without their favorite nibbles.

The picture will give you a visual reminder of what your goal is, and perhaps help you make healthier choices when going for a snack.  I'm also a fan of affirmations and "reminders".  Mine is "Did you walk today?", and has a much deeper personal meaning to me than I will go into detail about on an open forum.

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RE: How do you like to detox after an overdose of sugar? - 1/23/2009 1:29:13 PM   
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I don't ask my family to, I just know that their nibble favorites, can tend to tempt me to do what's wrong and eat more than I should lol.

That's why I said in my space, that I can control* IE my bedroom, My fridge, My computer space* I choose not to allow those things in. Or I ask Daddy to kindly please eat the junk stuff he wants to eat AWAY from me, eat it while at work, Eat it while I am sleeping, but please, please, PLEASE not in front of me.

Which I feel is pretty reasonable:)

I  like affirmations, When DAddy says good girl I am SO proud of you, and good job, because I worked hard and did things for myself, for my own betterment.
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Actually we have a treat in mind. I asked him one time if when I was skinny he'd buy me this one dress I loved,  Daddy says, when I loose all the weight I want to, and need to, he will buy me a new dress of my choice, and take me out to show me off in it.



Find a picture of that dress, and tape it to the refrigerator, or cabinet where your "challenging" foods and snacks are kept. It's nearly impossible to ask your family to go without their favorite nibbles.

The picture will give you a visual reminder of what your goal is, and perhaps help you make healthier choices when going for a snack.  I'm also a fan of affirmations and "reminders".  Mine is "Did you walk today?", and has a much deeper personal meaning to me than I will go into detail about on an open forum.

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RE: How do you like to detox after an overdose of sugar? - 1/23/2009 2:04:07 PM   
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No, not all of us take something like cleaning house for granted. Or walking. This time last year, I was flat on my back, in bed, sicker than a dog. I dropped 35 pounds in 4 weeks, without trying. I was in excruciating pain and no one could figure out why. Finally, after many, many tests and doctor visits, they discovered a non-cancerous tumour on my pancreas, lodged between my stomach and pancreas, next to an artery. For over 3 months, I lived with the daily knowledge that there was a very good chance I had pancreatic cancer. Needless to say, when the results came back negative, I was so relieved and happy that I burst into tears.

At the same time I was fighting that, I had carpal tunnel surgery done on both wrists. I literally couldn't do anything. They wanted me to have the ulnar translocation surgery as well but I've refused at this point because they can't tell me if it will even help. Maybe at some point I will have to have it.

In the meantime, I got back on my feet, lost 75 pounds and have been walking all over my local city. Where as the thought of walking to the corner market was daunting at first, now I don't even think about heading out on a 5 mile walk. I don't jog or do other stuff, just walk and watch what I eat. I can clean the house again (I still hate doing the bathroom though!) and get around. I don't want to run a marathon, just get back in health and stay there. Previous posters are right - once you get past a certain age, it's a bitch to lose weight or get back in shape.   I know from personal experience on that one!

So I guess the point of this ramble is that you can make healthy changes and lose the weight. However, it's not easy and you have to stick with it. I really don't recommend losing the weight the way I did initially....




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RE: How do you like to detox after an overdose of sugar? - 1/23/2009 2:07:09 PM   
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This thread was really starting to gross me out, i get so tired of people flaming.
*Look of suprise and happiness* at the way it turned around :)
YHMA, keep up the good work and post all you want!

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RE: How do you like to detox after an overdose of sugar? - 1/23/2009 2:44:22 PM   
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I can relate somewhat to you, yhma. In 2001, I was in a car accident that crushed my right shoulder and hip. I used to kickbox for my exercise among other things, and the accident stalled that out completely. ( I am basically still injured, due to the extensiveness of the accident, and have had 3 shoulder surgeries, soon to have a 4th ) I couldn't box, couldn't do much strength training. And my eating habits before had supported a highly active lifestyle.
Then being not so active, the foods I preferred led to gaining weight. I can now substitute in dancing for my cardio, since my hip has recovered enough to support it, but that wasn't quite enough. I want to tell you what I did to change my diet, on the chance it can help you. :) ( By the way, I am going to make generalizations in here when I say 'you' so no offense to anyone meant )

First thing I did was cut out the soda. And I am a recovering coke-aholic lol. What I did to sort of wean me off of it was I took sparkling water and added lemon and lime juice to make it taste like sprite. Not as good, but it helped my desire for soda. I also had sparkling cider once and a while with dinner, instead of wine. ( I still drink red on occasion, for the antioxidants, but no more than a few ounces in my special glass, gotten just for that reason :) ) Now I don't have much soda at all, unless it is say, movie night with my family, and then only one can period.
Then I worked on my pasta. I loved pasta almost as much as the soda! So first, I switched to a whole wheat pasta, which if made right, tastes just like the regular. Only if it is made right though. Then I pared it down, had lasagna instead, since the noodle to meat, cheese and spinach ratio is smaller. Now I only have pasta once in a great while, once a week on average.
Potatoes where a specific bane for me, since I would make say, homefries for breakfast, or have a few potatoes with dinner. So I switched to sweet potatoes, which even though they are sweeter, their carb ratio is smaller than with white potatoes. ( Yes, I sort of went Atkins here... )
I make my own bread ( I adore my bread machine! ) so it doesn't have all the nasty junk in it that store-bought has, not to mention the extra sodium and preservatives.
( I am allergic to soy, so store bought baked goods was never really an issue for me. )

Then I began to add more lean meats to my meals, so there was a 2 to 1 protein to carb ratio. The body will process carbs more willingly than protein. The body though, will burn up more calories and carbs, to process protein, hence why I added more to my diet. An interesting note: ice water will kickstart the metabolism a little bit, to process it, rather than room temperature water, which is apparently easier to process than the ice water.
By meats, I mean lean chicken, turkey, either ground or whole, fish like salmon and tuna ( I prefer the bumblebee albacore filets in the gold can, because the ones that say just water, have vegetable broth with soy in it, even says it on the label! Kinda lies about the packed in water part there... )
I also use a lot of eggs, and recent studies have found that though the yolks contain cholesterol or however that is spelled, it is GOOD cholesterol, not bad. Boiled, fried, scrambled yum.
Red meats I don't use as often, but when I get, say, hamburger, I make sure it is 93/7 lean. No sense in getting the 75/25 because it is cheaper due to the fact you end up cooking off 25% of the pound in just grease. Yuck. If I do get steak, I prefer to get it with the least amount of fat marbleization as possible and I tend to use it in soup with lots of low carb veggies so it stretches further.

Veggies... LOTS of veggies! I love veggies, when I was a kid, my mother would have to buy half again as many because when she cut them up, I would eat some. Peppers were my favorites. But I learned a good trick with that. See, my mom would cut up veggies and stick them in the smaller freezer bags. That way, she could just grab say, a bag of peppers, one of onions, one of say, summer squash, or cauliflower and another bag of broccoli, then snag a bag or two of the chopped meats and make a quick 15 minute stir-fry or soup. Pop them all in a wok or deep skillet with a bit of olive oil, maybe some garlic seasoning or my personal favorite, a bit of A1 sauce or duck sauce and you have Chinese food in 20 minutes or less!
( Once my mom got a call from my kindergarten teacher saying Mom should send healthy stuff, like Wise popcorn instead of vegetable strips or fruit.... )
Anyway. Also, I found that I wanted chips or cookies, mostly because they were crunchy. So, I changed to having peppers with sour cream for dip instead of chips, or carrots for the cookies because of the crunch factor.

Fruits... yum. Again, to satisfy the sweets craving, I would get berries, or grapes if I wanted the crunch effect. Crisp apples kept cold ( specifically granny smith or red delicious ) satisfied the hunger as well as the craving for sweets or sour stuff. But not too many apples at a time, because they are high in carbs. Perhaps three or so in a day is a good number, because also, the fiber in the apples and the pectin from the skins of any fruit or veggie makes it so the body doesn't absorb much of the sugar and the carbs.

I use heavy cream in my coffee because it has the lowest carb count. I try not to use 2% or skim milk ( white water, bleah ) because when they cut the milk fat, all that is left is the milk sugar. The body actually doesn't absorb much fat in food. The body changes extra sugars into fats for storage. That is what makes people fat. True, you have to burn calories for, I think it was 20 minutes? Not sure on that count, but you have to burn them for a time before you burn what the body has converted into fat. I used to find that after a serious workout, I tasted sugar in my mouth. I asked my doc about it, and she said that was because my body burned sugar-fat. I don't use sugar in my coffee or tea because the heavy cream is sweet enough for me. But my mom ( who was diagnosed diabetic and now, since she took herself in hand, shows no more signs of the disease ) uses Splenda.

I use real cheeses, not the American or Velveeta. I know they taste so damned good, but they are mostly oil, and soybean oil at that. Soybean oil is hydrogenated and tends to have a lot of trans fats, which the body can't use and can cause some bad responses in said body. If I want a cheese that is say, a little saltier or more flavorful than just plain Cheddar, I get the garlic and herb. The natural salt in the cheese boosts the flavor of the herbs, and voila, flavorful cheese! If I want a cheese with more bite, I get the Hunter Sharp ( AKA Seriously Sharp ) cheese. When I make my own pizza, I use that and Mozzarella so there is a nice even flavor, and I get the cool stretchy cheese effect! :D

I like to make my own dressings and I use olive oil mostly. Sometimes I cheat with canola oil, or I use canola if I want to make a lighter dressing. I also started making my own sauces for the Chinese dishes I make, so there is less salt and sugar. I have some recipes you can have if you like.

I've got lots of recipes if you want? They all take less than 20 minutes to make with the exception of the South Beach surprise mashed potatoes. Those are actually steamed then mashed and pressed cauliflower, seasoned with chicken broth and spices. My dad, who is a potato fanatic couldn't tell the difference, they were so good. :D

As for restaurants, one way to help cut the bad stuff out is not to get say, the Big Mac sauce actually ON the burger. Get sauces and dressings and gravies on the side. You will find you eat less of them if they aren't actually on your food. Get a double burger instead of a single. Or better yet, get two double burgers, and only a small french fry if you have to have fries. Eat the burgers first, and you won't feel so much lacking in the fry department :) If you go back to KFC, have some of their healthier foods first, THEN have the wings. When I go to a family restaurant, I usually go for the salad bar first ( I was never one much for heavy dressings, so I usually got oil and vinegar, provided the oil was olive oil ) and 'pig out' there first. My parents had the right idea when they told me to eat the 'yucky green stuff' first ( like cooked spinach lol ) first to get it out of the way. I learned later on that I had less of an appetite for the junk food because I had eaten the healthy stuff first.

I've seen on a lot of diets that people are still hungry. Or if they try to moderate their food, they cut too much, too fast, and then they get all shaky and irritable, some even get faint and sick. So what I do/did was to keep say, little individual packs of string cheese or little cubes of Cheddar, along with, you guessed it, strips of PEPPERS :D for when I needed a quick snack. On a good diet, you should never feel hungry. You shouldn't feel exactly full or stuffed, because that means you have eaten too much, even if it is only water chestnuts and cottage cheese. ( Whoever thought of the water chestnuts and cottage cheese diet should be smacked >.< ) But you shouldn't feel hungry either. If you do, have a handful of cheese cubes, or grapes. But don't eat too much of just the one thing. Mix it up a bit, have some veggies AND some fruit, some nuts AND some cheese. Or a mix of all four. :D

: chuckles at herself: And on the subject of sugar detox... finally: You can try a liquid fast, which includes soup broth, 100% juice mixtures, tea, preferably green tea, and vegetable juices. I have a recipe for potato peeling broth which is a good detoxer, and cabbage broth, which is another good one. I also have some for green drinks too, which provide you with lots of vitamins and micro-nutrient during a detox? I hope all this helps you.

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RE: How do you like to detox after an overdose of sugar? - 1/23/2009 4:27:08 PM   
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Good thread, peeps.  I too am a survivor of injuries.  I was run over by a car in 1982, fractured 8 bones & spent the next 2 years reahabbing so that all my parts were in working order.  At the end of that 2 years, I was in the best shape of my life!!  But my injuries were fractures.  They heal so much easier than soft tissue type injuries & are easier to get back into shape after.  My main problem was the pelvis & sacrum & the knee fracture.  When I got out of the casts, I had muscle atrophy, particularly in my quads on the boo-boo side.  My first exercise after being allowed to walk again was to walk.  I'm talking *serious* walking.  Like 9 miles a day up & down hills & stairs walking.  After a couple of years, I cut it back to an average of 5 miles a day.

Then I got so badly depressed that I was hospitalized.  The Dr. decided to change my med to one that "might cause a little weight gain".  I gained 100 lbs in 10 weeks while being very careful about my diet.  I was eating everything in correct portions, the same healthy foods I had been maintaining my weight on for a year & I still gained 100 lbs in 10 weeks.  I've never gotten back to where I was, no matter what I have tried to do.  Because I was thin for more than half of my life, I discovered that putting a "skinny" pic up on the fridge doesn't help, since that's the body image I already have in my head.  That body image is so ingrained that one time I saw a pic of myself & asked my sister if that was one of her new neighbors!!  So I was thinking that maybe a fat pic of myself would help me more.  Especially a nekkid one!!

I try to always eat lots of veggies & fruits, high fiber low-sugar cereal & only lean meats & fish at least twice a week.  One of my favorite meals when I'm on the truck is a big salad with lots of low-carb veggies & 3-4 oz of salmon or tuna, a tablespoon of cheese & bacon bits for that really yummy flavor I love.  I eat very little pasta, bread or potatoes.  When I do, I try to get real whole grain pasta & breads without chemicals.  Unfortunately, I'm in a very tight financial spot right now & am having to buy some cheaper things which aren't as good for me.  And still, I weigh the same. 

The one thing that I haven't been consistent with is exercise.  I was walking last fall & had built it up to 2+ miles per day when the old boo-boo knee went bonkers on me.  What I found out was this was caused by poor posture that I had developed over the years to compensate for the quad atrophy.  I became more conscious of my posture, keeping my feet straight at all times, dropping the high shoulder & most of my aches & pains have gone away.  I can even wear fun shoes & be on my feet for several hours now.  When this last depression got so bad, it was the exercise program that went down the tubes.  I need to get back to that, because I know that it should help with the depression also.

I've gotten a lot of good tips on here.  Thank you all for sharing!!!

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RE: How do you like to detox after an overdose of sugar? - 1/23/2009 5:00:54 PM   
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\My parents never raised us to love fruits  and veggies, in fact there was very little to no fruits or veggies being eaten. Growing up we'd frequently eat huge meals,  I mean I am talking about, stuff like corned beef cabbage, Mashed potato's Gravey on the tato's and the cabbage, and then, usually something else in there.

IF there was veggies in there it was drowned in a cup of butter and seasoned to death, since that's how she learned to cook veggies, like corn and broccoli.


Or for breakfast, a huge stack of pancakes about 6 each, bacon eggs, toast, and home fries. It was just a ton of food, each persons plate could of been split to feed one other,  and you'd STILL be full.

If we ate meat w/ith a lot of fat, my mom and dad would cut theirs off since they didn't like the fat to much and I'd be like oh oh if you're not going to eat that give it to me please, and they did. I mean after all " what harm does it do right, she's an extreamly skinny kid and can afford to eat"

I don't know if you saw the thread, where I stated what my favorite foods are typically at fast food places, or that we primarily only eat at Jack in the box,

But I get the eggstreme saussage egg sandwhiches. I never get hamburgers, since the last 3 times I did, before making the switch to eggie goodness* as I call them* the hamburger was very dry and tasted over cooked and I was unhappy with my hamburger, while the few times I'd had eggstream sausage sandwhiches, I was always happy with them.

I next to never get french fries either, and I don't order soda, I order ice tea, but of course I do put sweet and low into the ice tea, and every one says that's bad, that's bad, don't use things like equal or splenda or sweet in low, because those are bad for your health.

IT's not as good as not eating out, but it goes hand in hand with making smarter choices for myself, and still indulging my desire to eat Jack in the box. And two egg sandwhiches and tea are WAY better certainly with no doubt ever, than a huge burger, fries and a soda, that will be like 5 thousand calories, from the bbq sauce alone. Two eggies prolly have 900 calories. not great, but not bad.

Eggs are the one thing I will actually cook for myself, with out feeling like it's a ton of work lol. You can actually microwave them too, if you pop the yolk, so the pressure won't trap and build up, but they're not very yummy that way.


I discovered last year I LOVED orange bell peppers, now they're pretty expensive a handful of 4 will cost you about 5 bucks at the store, but I eat them like a kid eats candy lol.

I don't even mess with dips or nothing, I just rip those babies open , take out the seed part and eat them as is.


Sure Daddy and I would love some of those recipes he wants me to eat better and he'd like it if I'd cook for him now and again, and he sure would appreciate easy things to cook when HE desires to cook as well.
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I also use a lot of eggs, and recent studies have found that though the yolks contain cholesterol or however that is spelled, it is GOOD cholesterol, not bad. Boiled, fried, scrambled yum.

Veggies... LOTS of veggies! I love veggies, when I was a kid, my mother would have to buy half again as many because when she cut them up, I would eat some.


Anyway. Also, I found that I wanted chips or cookies, mostly because they were crunchy. So, I changed to having peppers with sour cream for dip instead of chips, or carrots for the cookies because of the crunch factor.

Fruits... yum. Again, to satisfy the sweets craving, I would get berries, or grapes if I wanted the crunch effect. Crisp apples kept cold ( specifically granny smith or red delicious ) satisfied the hunger as well as the craving for sweets or sour stuff. But not too many apples at a time, because they are high in carbs. Perhaps three or so in a day is a good number, because also, the fiber in the apples and the pectin from the skins of any fruit or veggie makes it so the body doesn't absorb much of the sugar and the carbs.

I've got lots of recipes if you want? They all take less than 20 minutes to make with the exception of the South Beach surprise mashed potatoes. Those are actually steamed then mashed and pressed cauliflower, seasoned with chicken broth and spices. My dad, who is a potato fanatic couldn't tell the difference, they were so good. :D

As for restaurants, one way to help cut the bad stuff out is not to get say, the Big Mac sauce actually ON the burger. Get sauces and dressings and gravies on the side. You will find you eat less of them if they aren't actually on your food. Get a double burger instead of a single. Or better yet, get two double burgers, and only a small french fry if you have to have fries. Eat the burgers first, and you won't feel so much lacking in the fry department :) If you go back to KFC, have some of their healthier foods first, THEN have the wings. When I go to a family restaurant, I usually go for the salad bar first ( I was never one much for heavy dressings, so I usually got oil and vinegar, provided the oil was olive oil ) and 'pig out' there first. My parents had the right idea when they told me to eat the 'yucky green stuff' first ( like cooked spinach lol ) first to get it out of the way. I learned later on that I had less of an appetite for the junk food because I had eaten the healthy stuff first.

I've seen on a lot of diets that people are still hungry. Or if they try to moderate their food, they cut too much, too fast, and then they get all shaky and irritable, some even get faint and sick. So what I do/did was to keep say, little individual packs of string cheese or little cubes of Cheddar, along with, you guessed it, strips of PEPPERS :D for when I needed a quick snack. On a good diet, you should never feel hungry. You shouldn't feel exactly full or stuffed, because that means you have eaten too much, even if it is only water chestnuts and cottage cheese. ( Whoever thought of the water chestnuts and cottage cheese diet should be smacked >.< ) But you shouldn't feel hungry either. If you do, have a handful of cheese cubes, or grapes. But don't eat too much of just the one thing. Mix it up a bit, have some veggies AND some fruit, some nuts AND some cheese. Or a mix of all four. :D

: chuckles at herself: And on the subject of sugar detox... finally: You can try a liquid fast, which includes soup broth, 100% juice mixtures, tea, preferably green tea, and vegetable juices. I have a recipe for potato peeling broth which is a good detoxer, and cabbage broth, which is another good one. I also have some for green drinks too, which provide you with lots of vitamins and micro-nutrient during a detox? I hope all this helps you.


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RE: How do you like to detox after an overdose of sugar? - 1/23/2009 5:09:45 PM   
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...we primarily only eat at Jack in the box...But I get the eggstreme saussage egg sandwhiches. Two eggies prolly have 900 calories. not great, but not bad.

Each one's 670 calories.  Which reminds me on how I once thought a chicken teriyaki bowl was the "nutritious" choice...only to find those suckers were 580 calories.  Argh.  Gonna be pitas fer me, if I get out there again.

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RE: How do you like to detox after an overdose of sugar? - 1/23/2009 5:12:48 PM   
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When I don't eat it I don't crave it.  I can go a year lets say, with out icecream, because I don't desire it, but then when someone brings me some and I eat it because they thought they were being kind and bought me some, THEN that's when I want it and will eat it and crave it.

It's the same way with chocolate, or brownies, or cakes, or cookies, or potato chips. I don't want it until I start eating it.

THAT'S when I start craving it and wanting it and maybe binging on it.



There is a biochemical reason for the fact that you crave these foods once you start eating them in any quantities:

Our body fat is part of a dynamic process.

Except for diabetics and athletes in training, ALL except fiber food turns into body fat; likewise all body fat is accessible to be burned as evergy. It's a continual process of into fat, out of fat, into fat, out of fat... EXCEPT when you eat a lot of refined carbohydrates like cookies, cake, pies, candy, chips, soda, ice cream, pastries, etc. 

Foods with a significant percentage of highly refined carbohydrates raise your blood sugar level to the point that the pancreas starts kicking out insulin like crazy. When your insulin levels rise, the insulin will combine with another substance in your body and the two of them together will stop any of your body fat from being used for energy.

So you're eating and eating those refined carbs, and the more you eat the less you can access the body fat you need to use as energy... so in effect, your body is screaming, "More! MORE!! We ain't getting anything down here!"

That's why you crave junk food once you start on it. It's the bio-chemistry of nutrition.

Experientially, it does seem to me that once you get yourself and your diet in shape--with the appropriate ratio of protein, fat, fiber, and COMPLEX carbs--that you can have a teeny amount, relatively speaking, of refined carbohydrates without setting the craving process off. But I don't yet understand the biochemistry of that process, except to say that a small amount of refined carbs probably won't raise your blood sugar quickly enough to do any damage.

Dietary fat isn't the problem it's been made out to be these last several years; the real problem is sugar and white flour, because it's digested and gets into the bloodstream too quickly. Fat is good in that it helps satiate your hunger.

I really liked Sanguinarian's eating plan! Like some of us have noticed, nutritious foods cost more than junk food, so I fall off the plan once in a while when I'm especially broke. But then eventially I have to remind myself that junk 'food' isn't really food at all, because it isn't giving my body any nutrition.

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