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RE: That thing called power... - 1/27/2009 12:53:14 AM   
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There are so many thought provoking answers here and I just wanted to thank everyone who took the time to write. Right now, I'm trying to get over an allergic reaction to some medication I took and since I didn't actually kill me, I think I'm going to be okay in another day or so, but wanted to acknowledge the breadth of insight that's been shown here. I'll be back. :)


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RE: That thing called power... - 1/27/2009 1:00:15 AM   
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good recovery lady and rest well

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RE: That thing called power... - 1/27/2009 1:19:25 AM   
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I've noticed dominants have very intimidating eyes which I am incredibly susceptible in wielding to.

I believe, dominants are dominants. Their presence is their power. I can pick a dominant out of a crowd of vanillas any day.

I have the power pulled from me.. I live a very type A life. I am very busy, very organized, and very punctual. Part of me loves having that power stripped away for relief. Another part of me is terrified that I might get lost in the struggle and never come back.  I can't even explain my own alternative tendencies, but I don't and probably never will truly understand them.

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RE: That thing called power... - 1/27/2009 2:03:42 AM   
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i believe it is confidence as well as trust.when you have those two dynamics working like what i have with Mistress,nothing can usurp the power between us.

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RE: That thing called power... - 1/28/2009 12:01:39 PM   
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...So, the question .. how do you get your power? Do you earn it then take office.. or do you have it so get the office?  I'm not talking about authority here. You don't really have authority unless it's recognized by someone that you do or you force it upon them by strength, will or law. I'm talking about raw power that you can wield as you wish. Do you think of it as a skillset that you can tap into when you want or something inante that manifests in the presence of subordination? Something else? Can you taste it? Does it diminish with age, redundancy or longevity or have you found it to grow or, perhaps, maintain a certain level within your psyche? Is it easily muted by external factors such as being sleepy, ill or maybe sexually spent? How do you recharge if that's the case?
  Power...my thoughts on power are a mix of what a lot of people have said on here.  I think that StrangerThan, LaT (as usual) and Knight did a really good job of explaining much of the ins and outs of power.  Put simply, I have power over myself in terms of setting a goal and achieving it, handling myself in a way that makes myself...and my maker...happy with me at the end of the day while having the humility to know I can do better and the desire to do so.  The power I have over others must be given by them and accepted by me.  My authority over my patients...my influence over what they do outside my office...only comes about from my showing them that I can be trusted because I know what I am doing;  that what I say makes sense to them and they are then willing to cooperate is a form of yielding their will(giving me power over them)...perhaps they prefer not to do exercises or eat the way I tell them to...to mine.  With a submissive, just as with a "vanilla" girl, there has to be something that attracts them to me.  As noted, there can be many factors that play into that...looks and strength being two that are going to diminish with age...but in a submissive's case, it is going to be those factors that speak to her of power.  Whether it is intelligence or compassion or a sadistic streak a mile wide or the willingness to take on the responsibility for nurturing/caring/guiding/taking care of her mentally and physically or a combination of these and other factors, whatever "it" is that speaks to her will be different with every individual.  What I am, who I am, what I have risen above garners respect from many...it also creates indifference within others who are searching for a differing "it" factor. 
Bita, you speak of the "it" factor and, for me, what I've stated above is the "it" factor.  What I have in terms of physical appearance, my profession, my intelligence, my charm, my love of sadism, my thoughts on sexuality, my rules, my willingness to stand for something I deem important even if it costs me something I want, etc., etc., may be the "it" for you OR it may well NOT be while it IS for another.  Does this mean I have no power?  No, it means that I don't attract everyone.  The same can be said for submission and its' power...this submissive may have allllllllllll the things that a dominant wants from a submissive whereas another's submissive traits just don't appeal to him.  Does that mean the one who does not appeal has no power as a submissive?  No, it simply means that she has no power over that particular dominant.


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RE: That thing called power... - 1/28/2009 1:40:35 PM   
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Late coming into the game, but I hope this is still relevant. I apologize in advance... it's a little long, I think... chalk it up to my word fetish.

I believe that we are all, intrinsically, keepers of our own power. The question is what we -do- with the power that we have. The individuals who express their power and radiate it publicly may not have a greater measure of power than anyone else, but they demonstrate the presence of that power in ways both tangible and intangible, and they use that power actively, rather than passively retaining it and putting it to no good use, or choosing to allow another authority over its management.

I also believe that there are individuals who, for some unknown reason, choose to believe themselves to be 'powerless'... they deny their own capacity to effect change, and throw away their power so completely that they leave themselves up to their eyeballs in 'victimhood'. However, this is not a permanent state, because our power is not like a well that eventually goes dry -- it's more like our circulatory system... a closed system that we can open up to the outside at will. Sometimes, if we open up the system too much or in the wrong place, we hemorrhage and it weakens us. But if the cause of the hemorrhage can be found and repaired, and we haven't slid so far into the loss that we're two breaths from death, the body will make new blood to restore us to our normal level, with or without outside intervention. Our power is the same way... if we stop the hemorrhage of power, and we still have even the smallest spark of belief in our capacity to exist, we can rise out of our victimhood and begin shaping our world from a different perspective. That's not to say that it won't be a LOT of work... but it can be done, and the rewards are amazing.

There are always going to be individuals who draw from their own resources and move and shape things from a place deep within themselves, acting on everything around them, and imprinting it with the particular 'flavor' of their life-force. Too, there will always be people who participate in the process of living by yielding their power up to someone else to bolster that individual's capacity to shape and reshape reality. Typically, where an individual invests a great deal of hir own energy, and recognizes the energetic contribution of others to hir cause(s),  xhe will do so with the understanding that what xhe is creating or reconfiguring is an act of creation or transmutation that belongs not -only- to hirself, but to all of those who contributed their essence to the project.

There is a third type of individual, though, and we've seen more than a few of these in positions where they held great sway over the long, bloody, and destructive, history of humankind. These are individuals are the 'misers' of the power dynamic, and either through failure of discipline and control of their own personal resources or through greed and an unwillingness to risk their own energy on the acts that they promote, steal power/effectiveness from others and then turn around and use that stolen resource to empower their own selfish goals, regardless of the damage such actions might do to the reality around them. For many individuals in this category, acts of creation and/or reconfiguration are actually secondary results of their most prominant goal, which is to control -more- power, and to do so for its own sake, rather than to do anything -with- it. An individual of this nature will cheat, lie, steal, and yet will find ways to manipulate a population kept ignorant and afraid into yielding up more of their power and freedom for the miser to hoard. In fact, the tools of ignorance and fear are the primary tools of the power-thief... demoralize a population, then require that, in order to assure that they will be protected, they are told that they must give away their individuality and freedom to act -- and the more they give, the more pressure is applied and the more heinous the fears they are exposed to, in order to assure that they have yielded up everything up to, and sometimes including, their will to live.

For myself, my tendency is to use the power that I have been provided with as an aspect of self-awareness. I recognize my strengths and also recognize the areas in which my power does not resonate well. I commit myself and the power that am vested with, and invest myself in the things that I find worthwhile. I am fortunate, in that I am also entrusted with and given authority over others' power, including the right call upon them to use that power in a manner that I decree, and this can help to overcome some of the areas where my own power poorly resonates or is insufficient to the task at hand, and I cherish and recognize the huge responsibility that comes with being supported by the network of people whom I call 'family' or "House". I also recognize that I do not 'hold' any of their power... what I -do- hold is the authority to make decisions on their behalf that will require investment of their power as well as my own. I apply my power externally (visibly) in the world. I'm typically the 'frontman'... the speaker, and the instigator. My energy is expended early, in a bright, fiery burst... which means that I do best with others around me who burn more slowly and who are able to sustain that initial burst through its full development. I am a project -starter-, not a 'wrap-up man'. Anything we do can be an asset or detriment, depending on how we do it. I have to -remind- myself to finish things. I have a tendency to start too many projects and not be able to finish all of them in a reasonable amount of time, and I tend to get bored with the sloggish pace that it takes change to manifest... but that makes me GREAT at coming up with novel solutions and initiating things, and that's where I focus -- and make sure that I delegate people to hold the helm steady, once I've set a course, no less the Captain when my hands aren't on the wheel.


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RE: That thing called power... - 1/28/2009 2:40:51 PM   
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Most people that seek and attempt to wield power are proven to be charlatans.  They usally are blowhards.  Very typical of this type of individual can be found in the accessories...They usually come attached to a 'vette and a pitbull. Insecurites are abundant within this type. They should be avioded at all costs.

The only thing that impresses me and will give me pause is knowledge.

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RE: That thing called power... - 1/28/2009 2:41:55 PM   
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What about a Mazda3 and three assorted mutts?

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RE: That thing called power... - 1/28/2009 2:44:04 PM   
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What about a Mazda3 and three assorted mutts?


was looking at the mazda3...enough space to hold an 8ft rod and still rather cool with decent mileage.


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RE: That thing called power... - 1/28/2009 2:50:42 PM   
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What about a Mazda3 and three assorted mutts?


was looking at the mazda3...enough space to hold an 8ft rod and still rather cool with decent mileage.



I have the 5door in black with black leather interiour. 5 speed manual. I love it. Zoom zoom zoom.


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RE: That thing called power... - 1/28/2009 2:52:09 PM   
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What about a Mazda3 and three assorted mutts?


was looking at the mazda3...enough space to hold an 8ft rod and still rather cool with decent mileage.



I have the 5door in black with black leather interiour. 5 speed manual. I love it. Zoom zoom zoom.


hubby just anounced we are getting a Hummer


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RE: That thing called power... - 1/28/2009 2:52:59 PM   
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What about a Mazda3 and three assorted mutts?


was looking at the mazda3...enough space to hold an 8ft rod and still rather cool with decent mileage.



I have the 5door in black with black leather interiour. 5 speed manual. I love it. Zoom zoom zoom.


hubby just anounced we are getting a Hummer



He has stock in Exon doesn't he..........rat bastid.


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RE: That thing called power... - 1/28/2009 2:58:10 PM   
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I just can't imagine why anyone would buy a Hummer?  Not a very good auto.  Much better large vehicles to be purchased.  The only saving grace is you should be able to pick one up on the cheap. 

When I see one on the road I always find myself wondering who is the twit behind the wheel?

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RE: That thing called power... - 1/28/2009 3:04:41 PM   
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I just can't imagine why anyone would buy a Hummer?  Not a very good auto.  Much better large vehicles to be purchased.  The only saving grace is you should be able to pick one up on the cheap. 

When I see one on the road I always find myself wondering who is the twit behind the wheel?
my husband was in an accident this morning in which he totaled our new Ford Explorer. It rolled so many times the roof was sitting on the seats.
In all likelyhood he is in shock because the babies car seat, in the back seat, was crushed and he is looking at a safer car.

Perchance the person driving a Hummer is not a twit, but a concerned dad?


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RE: That thing called power... - 1/28/2009 3:07:55 PM   
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Volvo.

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RE: That thing called power... - 1/28/2009 3:10:23 PM   
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that was my suggestion LaT. He is in panic mode right now and there is no reasoning with him. He will calm down in a bit.

Apologies...i did not mean to hijack


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RE: That thing called power... - 1/28/2009 3:15:43 PM   
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Perchance the person driving a Hummer is not a twit, but a concerned dad?


Oh silly lil' sirsholly,  we ofen try and delude ourselves in believing that we are doing something out of honor as we make the most foolish of decisions. The only people concerned will be the onlookers.  They shall pray that the driver did not take the time to breed.....For you see, that man is a twit. 

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RE: That thing called power... - 1/28/2009 3:19:49 PM   
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Drive a Hummer...do ya, Domiguy?

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RE: That thing called power... - 1/28/2009 3:25:50 PM   
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Drive a Hummer...do ya, Domiguy?


No. I do not drive a hummer.  they are a bummer.  I would drive an explorer.

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RE: That thing called power... - 1/28/2009 3:41:03 PM   
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Drive a Hummer...do ya, Domiguy?


No. I do not drive a hummer.  they are a bummer.  I would drive an explorer.


I use a hummer in My CBT scene, determined to find a set of jewels that doesn't rip off-now that's power!

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