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RE: Natural beauty and why we hide it - 1/27/2009 10:22:12 AM

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...I know quite a few people who are natural beauties but still go through regimes to enhance themselves. Why do we do it?...

Societal programming.

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RE: Natural beauty and why we hide it - 1/27/2009 10:23:10 AM

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i hate my curly hair - yuk.

i hate mine too. It is a pain in the booty to try and do anything with, plus it is UBER thick (lost a comb and 2 hairbrushes to it in my younger days). But, i have come to accept that it is a part of me and one of my biggest assets. Curl Power!!

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RE: Natural beauty and why we hide it - 1/27/2009 10:25:29 AM

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"putting on my face" translates to me (as does "putting in my eyes" for those who wear contacts)

I'll wear makeup for going out or special occasions.. but the rest of the time is purely au naturel

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RE: Natural beauty and why we hide it - 1/27/2009 10:27:26 AM

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i hate my curly hair - yuk.

i hate mine too. It is a pain in the booty to try and do anything with, plus it is UBER thick (lost a comb and 2 hairbrushes to it in my younger days). But, i have come to accept that it is a part of me and one of my biggest assets. Curl Power!!

Trying curly top out today. My hair is saying thank god she hasn't sizzled me today but my straighteners are sulking and feeling neglected lol.

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RE: Natural beauty and why we hide it - 1/27/2009 10:29:39 AM

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Heh, I'm the opposite of everyone in here.

I highlight my hair, straighten the shit out of it with a good straightener, and wear a decent amount of makeup- especially when I'm working.

The problem that many people have is that they use crap products- straighteners that fry their hair, and makeup that clogs up their skin and makes it worse than it was in the first place.

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RE: Natural beauty and why we hide it - 1/27/2009 10:30:48 AM

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...I know quite a few people who are natural beauties but still go through regimes to enhance themselves. Why do we do it?...

Societal programming.

+ to increase the profit margins of various vanity-based industries.

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RE: Natural beauty and why we hide it - 1/27/2009 10:33:27 AM

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+ to increase the profit margins of various vanity-based industries.

exactly!!! not with my money thats for sure

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RE: Natural beauty and why we hide it - 1/27/2009 10:35:44 AM

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i hate my curly hair - yuk.

i hate mine too. It is a pain in the booty to try and do anything with, plus it is UBER thick (lost a comb and 2 hairbrushes to it in my younger days). But, i have come to accept that it is a part of me and one of my biggest assets. Curl Power!!

Trying curly top out today. My hair is saying thank god she hasn't sizzled me today but my straighteners are sulking and feeling neglected lol.

Watch out for those damn straighteners, they will plot against you when you are gone and the next time you go to straighten it will be *cue scarey music* CRIMPED!!! AHHHHHH!!!

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RE: Natural beauty and why we hide it - 1/27/2009 10:39:33 AM

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Hey there miss t:

An interesting idea. You know Dark Steven has a sig line that is about this very thing.

As to why hide it? Well here's the truth. Most of us are not in fact what people would call attractive. *now hear me out*... If you figure a bell curve, then 2/3 of the population is average or below average. The line of demarcation is always to be "beautiful" or at least "pretty". Most of us just aren't. Period. This does not mean we are unattractive or unworthy or any other nonsense, it just means we don't actually have "natural beauty." So, with the world's expectations to meet certain expectations, it is simply not possible, even for the more beautiful of folks. We are expected to be as beautiful at the 90th percentile is. Well by sheer definition, 90 percent are not going to ever meet it.

Why do we hide natural beauty? I don't know. I've only done a bit to play up the two things in me that are beautiful - my smile and my eyes. They are both natural (no braces). I figure it's a "do magic" over here so nobody sees the blech over there. As for that kind of beautiful, my eyes are definitely 90th percentile but the rest? I just throw in the towel because it is like telling a one handed person to clap.

It is in finding our truth that we can find what is beautiful and enhance it. By enhancing other places to make us more attractive, in order for the natural beauty to fit in, the enhancement is necessary. My beautiful eyes will look silly if I have lots of make up, a pretty hairdo, and blingy earrings on. So I enhance their natural beauty with eye liner, shadow, and mascara... so the eyes fit with the rest of the face.

May not be the answer for others, but it's true for me.

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RE: Natural beauty and why we hide it - 1/27/2009 10:39:36 AM

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Heh, I'm the opposite of everyone in here.

I highlight my hair, straighten the shit out of it with a good straightener, and wear a decent amount of makeup- especially when I'm working.

The problem that many people have is that they use crap products- straighteners that fry their hair, and makeup that clogs up their skin and makes it worse than it was in the first place.

I use decent straighteners and hair mist but i'm still convinced they do damage to your hair when used frequeently.
I only use one brand of makeup too, i trust it.

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Watch out for those damn straighteners, they will plot against you when you are gone and the next time you go to straighten it will be *cue scarey music* CRIMPED!!! AHHHHHH!!!

Lol, hope not.

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RE: Natural beauty and why we hide it - 1/27/2009 10:40:00 AM

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I like curly hair. I also like straight hair. What I DON'T like is hair that is somewhere in-between, and refuses to conform one way or the other, no matter how hard you try. Grrr!

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RE: Natural beauty and why we hide it - 1/27/2009 10:44:30 AM

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I'm actually a lot less concerned with the way I look now than I was as a teen or in my early twenties. I do blow-dry and straighten my hair every day, but it's not for the rest of the world, it's because *I* like it better than curly. If I wanted to go curly, it would be SO easy, just rustle it around with my fingers, a little spray and go. For every day, I just blow dry it quickely, it doesn't take that long. I don't bother with make-up if I'm just running to the store or doing errands. For going out for work, yes, make-up has to be on, but it's usually a quickie, a little shadow, a couple strokes of mascara, some blush and a quick sweep with the lipstick, less than 10 minutes. If I'm going out to socialize, or out on a date, I like to spend more time fussing with hair perfection and doing a more elaborate make-up job.

I also dye my hair now because I'm getting a lot of grays and I do not like it. Not sure if I would have plastic surgery on anything, I'd probably chicken out, although I'm sure I could use it in a couple of areas. In general though, I'm pretty pleased with what I have to work with at 44. And yeah I do like to work with it a bit. I guess there's some vanity involved, but I think it boils down to me feeling good about myself, and not so much what the rest of the world thinks.

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RE: Natural beauty and why we hide it - 1/27/2009 10:51:33 AM

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It is in finding our truth that we can find what is beautiful and enhance it. By enhancing other places to make us more attractive, in order for the natural beauty to fit in, the enhancement is necessary. My beautiful eyes will look silly if I have lots of make up, a pretty hairdo, and blingy earrings on. So I enhance their natural beauty with eye liner, shadow, and mascara... so the eyes fit with the rest of the face.

I'm all for enhancing what God naturally gave us with a bit of make up, the odd hair dye, a pair of straighteners and even a bit of cosmetic surgery if thats what people choose.

I have friends who have had cosmetic surgery in one form or another and yes in general it has enhanced them. But for me there is a line and its when its crossed that it becomes a problem. All too often you see people who are not recognisable anymore as themselves or look like a badly made version of barbie.

I don't like saying this but i cannot comprehend how anyone can see that as beauty. When people say wow she is attractive i'm like 'plastic is attractive'. When people ask how they look so good for their age and surgery is obvious as it often is i wanna yell 'plastic surgery moron'.

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RE: Natural beauty and why we hide it - 1/27/2009 10:55:44 AM

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Hey there miss t,
I have a friend who had his ears done. They used to stick out. Now I didn't think they were unattractive, but he was terribly self-concious. It made him feel more secure when he had them "pinned back" or some such thing. It was when he stopped worrying (because of the surgery) that he was able to shine. He'd always been physically attractive, but there is something about his level of confidence that makes him swoony.

I mean think about it... Cher, David Bowie, Tommy Lee Jones, Alan Rickman - not really "beautiful" without a bit of help, but their confidence makes them deadly attractive.

It is the difference between beautiful and attractive I think.

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RE: Natural beauty and why we hide it - 1/27/2009 11:00:48 AM

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Well personally i don't see how the likes of cher can be classed as beautiful or attractive, but hey that's just me.
i guess i should have added as well like i did earlier that the ones who really get my goat are the ones who say it is good genes, exercise that makes them look the way they do when they blatantly have had work done.

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RE: Natural beauty and why we hide it - 1/27/2009 11:03:13 AM

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Heh, I know a lady who's had so many botox injections she looks alarming.. her lips poke out unnaturally, and her eyebrows look perpetually surprised.

She attributes it to a 'good moisturizer'

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RE: Natural beauty and why we hide it - 1/27/2009 11:09:37 AM

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Heh, I know a lady who's had so many botox injections she looks alarming.. her lips poke out unnaturally, and her eyebrows look perpetually surprised.

She attributes it to a 'good moisturizer'

Pmsl.
Actually i really should shut up about this as my Sir confessed the other day that he has had botox in the past.

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RE: Natural beauty and why we hide it - 1/27/2009 11:12:02 AM

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I don't have any choice, I have to wear a disguise when I leave the house or there'd be a riot amoung the ladies!
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RE: Natural beauty and why we hide it - 1/27/2009 11:13:44 AM

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See that's a totally different kettle of fish.
It is for your protection

Edited because in my excitement at seeing popeye i missed a word out

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RE: Natural beauty and why we hide it - 1/27/2009 11:15:39 AM

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Heh, I know a lady who's had so many botox injections she looks alarming.. her lips poke out unnaturally, and her eyebrows look perpetually surprised.

She attributes it to a 'good moisturizer'

Indeed. I also had a colleague who uses botox and it looks awful. She is now 46 or so but her face looks just plain strange...it just doesnt fit to her and I dont get it why she needs it anyway, but well, thats her issue not mine, so no point for me to worry about that.

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