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RE: How do I mimic boxed hamburger helper, from scratch? - 1/28/2009 5:14:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		YHMA, you've heard of the words to a song "he who make kittens put snakes in the grass".

OK, you like the cheesey ones, you might want to refer back to a thread I started that just died very recently about melting cheese. I got a few good ideas there. See I don't like Velveeta anymore, it doesn't seem real to me. However it may be better than HH. I have heard from more than one that a small amount of nutmeg sets a cheese sauced off quite well, though I've yet to try it. Also, with pasta, potatoes and the like you know you could use fried pieces of ham or almost anything. Fish and chicken might not do so well, but then there is smoked sausage and all that. I have tried it all and alot of it is quite good. It is not a fancy meal, one plate, lucky to get something on the side like a veggie, but good.

The gravy based HH ones do almost all include sage, which is a basic spice. You could also do that with chicken, and the sage goes well there.

Note also what someone else said about salt. There is ALOT of salt in HH, or other things like MSG. I can't recommend MSG even though there are plenty of Chinese (MSG was a staple in their diet for some time), the modern MSG is not the same as the old time MSG. I have found some real seasalt and it is not cheap. Mine is unrefined, but whether you get refined or not, if you want to know if it is bad for you just put it in an open jar in the summer when it is humid. If it does not clump up it is bad for you, if it does clump up it is either neutral or beneficial.

You might also find HFCS or guar gum in the "official" HH, but don't worry about that. HFCS is a sweetener you don't want and guar gum is just a thickener, easily replaced by a bit of flour or other type of starch.

Really getting started cooking can look awesome, but really all you need is a "work station". You need all the things you might need in easy reach. You need certain things, a bit of water, perhaps a bit of oil. A decent spice rack, the kind that spins around is fine and I would like one but I have too damn many spices. Spice mixtures are great as well, for example adobo. They call it Mexican I think but everyone uses it, unless you are single with plenty of time on your hands. Chili powder is a mixture, so is that Indian stuff, what is it they put on chicken ? Mrs Dash has been mentioned and is an excellent addition to any kitchen. If for the beginner who does not yet know their spices or because it is faster and easier, get some. None of them have any salt in them to my knowledge. The only sodium they have supposedly is what naturally occurs in their ingredients, which is the best way to get it.

You just have to watch what is in the mixture.

The regular onions and garlic are pretty much set, even if you don't like it that much, there is a way. You put them in, finely minced right when you start cooking the meat. They disintegrate and impart their flavor, and you don't run into chunks of them. Don't leave them out if you can help it.

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RE: How do I mimic boxed hamburger helper, from scratch? - 1/28/2009 6:08:32 PM   
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I found this online.  Just take out what doesn't appeal to you. 

Hamburger Helper Copycat
2 cups nonfat dry instant milk
¼ cup corn starch
¼ cup unsalted  chicken or beef bouillon powder
2 Tablespoons onion flakes
1 teaspoon dried basil
1 teaspoon dried thyme
1 teaspoon black pepper
2 Tablespoons dried parsley
1 Tablespoon garlic powder
Mix the ingredients together and store in an air tight container.  Use the above “helper” mix as a base for the following dinners.  (each serves 4 to 6 people) Ground Beef Stroganoff Brown 1 pound ground beef or turkey and drain off the fat.  Add 2 cups water, ½ cup “helper” mix and 2 cups uncooked egg noodles and stir.  Bring mixture to a boil, reduce heat and simmer covered for 15-20 minutes or until noodles are tender.  Top with ½ cup sour cream. Hearty Potato Casserole Brown 1 pound ground beef or turkey and drain off the fat.  Add  ¾ cup water, 6 peeled potatoes (sliced very thin), 1 cup of frozen mixed peas and carrots and ½ cup plus 1 Tablespoon “helper” mix.  Simmer covered 20-30 minutes or until potatoes are tender.  Stir, uncover and cook until excess water is evaporated.
Here's the link: 
http://www.kbrx.com/RECIPES/main%20dishes/hambhelperccat.htm



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RE: How do I mimic boxed hamburger helper, from scratch? - 1/28/2009 6:53:02 PM   
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Yes, bacon is just one of those things........I don't care how bad it is for me, I am always going to eat it.

My sister introduced me to a yummy.

Slice fresh jalapenos in half, mix some softened cream cheese with some onion and garlic powder, place in jalapeno halves, then wrap each in 1/2 slice of bacon and bake......heaven




This will be made for superbowl at my place.  omg thanks!


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RE: How do I mimic boxed hamburger helper, from scratch? - 1/28/2009 7:28:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		To me, when you start with ground beef what you do is add things that you believe is the taste you like.  For example, i accidently came up with a way to make pizza lol taste without the pizza - i was doing low carb at the time.  I wanted the taste of italian sausage so i got some italian sausage and took out the middle and skilleted it up, then i started throwing in toppings i like on my pizza.  In the end i threw in some chopped up roma tomatoes and mixed it all up and added a A LOT of cheese -- and that was dinner.  Then over time i started adding healthier stuff little by little -- i.e., shredded chicken instead of all of the italian sausage, spinach leaves and all different types of veggies.  So what does this mean, it means start with things you know will give you the taste you are looking for, you said you like the nacho dinner -- so throw some meat in the pan and skillet it up, add some nacho velveta and throw in some veggies you know will mix it -- such as tomatoes, onions, peppers, cilantro.  Make your pasta and see how it goes.  Once you have the basics of what you like, you can begin to experiment to add more healthy options that lesson what you don't want in it.  Exchange the pasta for whole wheat pasta or spinach pasta, or ditch the pasta and use spaghetti squash or hell make a salad and dump it on top.   You don't like chicken but chicken is better than ground beef, so psych yourself out and start sprinkling shredded chicken into it or tuna or half beef with ground turkey.  Not a lot that it will change the taste completely but a little at a time so you don't notice the change as its happening.  From what i have seen of hamburger helper, all it seems like it does is takes favorite tastes of homemade meals and make them quick and simple.  They seem all based upon dishes that started out homemade and just added beef to it.

Eating healthy simply means sometimes lol psyching yourself out and getting the healthy in so you don't taste it.  BTW, garlic is supposed to be very good for you.   And when you are in a fix for time, salsa is an AWESOME mixer upper with beef and cheese and taco shells or dump on a salad for a taco salad idea.

damn now i am hungry lol.

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RE: How do I mimic boxed hamburger helper, from scratch? - 1/28/2009 9:33:20 PM   
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I have in the past solved being lonely by amusing myself with the food, like talking to it for example, while cooking it.


Ah! Now I see why you don't like cooking! You're conflicted about cooking things that you've befriended. It's only natural.


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RE: How do I mimic boxed hamburger helper, from scratch? - 1/28/2009 9:35:43 PM   
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I want to make it from scratch , and I like the nacho cheese stuff and other flavors, but when I've looked online, the recipe's all have stuff in it I don't want, that wouldn't be authentic to hamburger helper, like tomato's, and garlic.


: stifles a grin. " I have a recipe for this too, YHMA....

Also, two spices I am never without and can't go wrong with is Garlic and Herb( AKA All Purpose ) and Lemon Pepper, both non-salted. I use them in everything. Now I need to go raid the kitchen Muahaha.


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RE: How do I mimic boxed hamburger helper, from scratch? - 1/28/2009 9:51:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		What I don't understand is, you want something to taste like hamburger helper, but you don't want to use the ingredients in the recipes that will make it taste like hamburger helper.  Huh?

How do you think anything is going to taste like something, unless you put in the ingredients that will make it taste that way?


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RE: How do I mimic boxed hamburger helper, from scratch? - 1/28/2009 10:02:48 PM   
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RE: How do I mimic boxed hamburger helper, from scratch? - 1/28/2009 10:03:17 PM   
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ORIGINAL: YourhandMyAss

Can I switch out cream of mushroom for cream of chicken, since I don't like mushrooms nor cream of mushroom soup?
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ORIGINAL: maybemaybenot

Most Hamburger Helper has garlic and tomato  < dried or sauce > in it. that is why the recipes include it.

Do you like the Hamburger Helper Stoganoff ?
Here is a healthier version, that tastes just as good.

1 lb hamburger or Turkey Burger
1 can Campbells Healthy Request Creme of Mushroom soup
2 TBSP Kithchen Bouquet browning Sauce
1 Tbsp Maggi Seasoning Sauce < Jugo Sazonador>
2 Cups cooked egg noodles.

Brown Hamburger/ Turkey Burger in skillet,   drain grease
Add soup, and both seasoning sauces and simmer about 20 minutes, stirring frequently.
Stir in cooked egg noodles and serve.

I add sliced fresh mushroom when I am simmering. It's optional.

               mbmbn

You can do whatever you want. Cream of celery, cream of chicken, whatever. Just try it, and write down what you do, so if you like it, you'll know, and if you don't like it, you'll know that for the future, too.

There are so many different types of hamburger helper (let's just use HH for the rest of the thread, good idea?) that I can't tell you anything.

Garlic is REALLY good for you. Tomatoes, too.

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RE: How do I mimic boxed hamburger helper, from scratch? - 1/28/2009 10:09:07 PM   
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We should make the Oreos for our Superbowl party!

Yes, please!!!


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RE: How do I mimic boxed hamburger helper, from scratch? - 1/28/2009 10:39:09 PM   
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I would  use oregano, cumin, fennel and garlic powder with salt and pepper, diced onions and diced bell peppers. Mix all the above and some ground breakfast sausage in your ground beef and brown until it starts to carmelize. Drain the fat. Then add in your cooked pasta and more of the above seasonings. Add brown gravy mix or mushroom soup on top


Good ideas all, LunaVenus.  I season everything I make, but I get the impression that Yourhandmyass isn't fond of cooking.  For novice or folks that cook once in awhile, I suggest three seasonings.  Invest in a pepper grinder (so much better than regular packaged 2 blend pepper), salt (I'd say sea salt, but I think it's overrated frankly), and Mrs. Dash.  Mrs. Dash is great for seasoning if you don't know how to cook well. 
I used to think the same about sea salt. I would scoff and say, "it's all in yer heads!"

But then, a few months ago, I found some Old Thomson sea salt I had back in the pantry when I was cleaning my kitchen (still cleaning - deep cleaning, pulling dust out of the cabinet panel/stile joints and such) and tasted it.

Hmmm! says I. Tastes kinda sweet! So I tasted it next to Morton's, rinsing with water between tastes.  There WAS a difference. I'm told it's because of the CaCl2, theory is it falls on a different place on the tongue.  Maybe, maybe not. Could be a "placebo effect", too. I just know I perceive a difference.

Now I'll use the Thomson's for delicate cooking, the Morton's for a pot of beans or the like (and the iodine), and Himalayan sea salt for salads and fresh stuff. The Himalayan is cool; some of the crystals are pinkish, like rose quartz.

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RE: How do I mimic boxed hamburger helper, from scratch? - 1/28/2009 10:54:28 PM   
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YHMA, you've heard of the words to a song "he who make kittens put snakes in the grass".

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omg, Jethro Tull makes Hamburger Helper , too?  I thought they were just into farm-raised smoked salmon.  btw, I think the key to any tasty recipe is good quality Hungarian sweet paprika. 

yours


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RE: How do I mimic boxed hamburger helper, from scratch? - 1/28/2009 11:53:26 PM   
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What I don't understand is, you want something to taste like hamburger helper, but you don't want to use the ingredients in the recipes that will make it taste like hamburger helper.  Huh?

How do you think anything is going to taste like something, unless you put in the ingredients that will make it taste that way?


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Never mind, Cali. Sometimes there is no there there. (Gertrude Stein, paraphrased) It's a Zen kind of thing.

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RE: How do I mimic boxed hamburger helper, from scratch? - 1/28/2009 11:58:57 PM   
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*Nikita thinks is very suspicious thread about making simple hamburger helper take 4 pages*

*Nikita think hamburger helper is name of secret club of kinky people plotting to over throw government.

*Nikita think people in thread are lucky Mr. Bush in not president or people in thread get arrested for violation of secret law and sent to git-mo*








*Nikita tries to infiltrate the secret gang which will in future get reported in newspapers as "The hamburger helper gang"*

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RE: How do I mimic boxed hamburger helper, from scratch? - 1/29/2009 1:05:57 AM   
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*Nikita peeks into thread to see if this is really secret agent spy club.*

*Nikita thinks is very suspicious thread about making simple hamburger helper take 4 pages*

*Nikita think hamburger helper is name of secret club of kinky people plotting to over throw government.

*Nikita think people in thread are lucky Mr. Bush in not president or people in thread get arrested for violation of secret law and sent to git-mo*








*Nikita tries to infiltrate the secret gang which will in future get reported in newspapers as "The hamburger helper gang"*


haha, seriously.


Anyways, why not make foods that don't resemble boxed foods? There are all sorts of recipes that don't taste like processed crap, why try to modify recipes to make them taste like processed crap? There are all sorts of amazing ways to make pasta, my favorite being whole wheat rotini with homemade pesto and fresh spinach. It's delicious, and not terrible for you. Or just make easy pasta salad; make an oil and vinegar dressing, make pasta, put both pasta and dressing on salad. These things take like, 5 minutes. If you want cheesy tasting pasta, try making it with nutritional yeast instead.

If you absolutely feel the need to eat something out of a box, get some of the Annie's boxed pastas (http://www.annies.com/products). I don't understand the mass amounts of threads about making foods taste like other foods. Oy vey.

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RE: How do I mimic boxed hamburger helper, from scratch? - 1/29/2009 1:12:27 AM   
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*Nikita peeks into thread to see if this is really secret agent spy club.*

*Nikita thinks is very suspicious thread about making simple hamburger helper take 4 pages*

*Nikita think hamburger helper is name of secret club of kinky people plotting to over throw government.

*Nikita think people in thread are lucky Mr. Bush in not president or people in thread get arrested for violation of secret law and sent to git-mo*








*Nikita tries to infiltrate the secret gang which will in future get reported in newspapers as "The hamburger helper gang"*
You can't get into gang until you stop referring to yourself in the 4th person semi-plural. It's a rule.

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RE: How do I mimic boxed hamburger helper, from scratch? - 1/29/2009 1:22:28 AM   
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Status: offline 		The last time I tried to mimic a box of Hamburger Help from scratch, I started with 2 large, rectangular sheets of cardboard.  I painted each with a basecoat of flat white paint and let them dry overnight.  Doing the artwork was a challenge but I got some help from a friend and by the end of the afternoon - and a bottle of merlot - we had the coarboard looking more-or-less like the front and back of a box of the real thing.  We then used a glue gun...

What?  This isn't about Halloween costumes?  Oh.  That's very different then.  Nevermind.

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RE: How do I mimic boxed hamburger helper, from scratch? - 1/29/2009 6:10:54 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yours, what I meant by that is once you get open to a bunch of pasta dishes you might gain weight because pasta is empty carbs. If I ate as much pasta now as I did when I was young I would weigh 400 lbs.

That's the danger of it.

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RE: How do I mimic boxed hamburger helper, from scratch? - 1/29/2009 9:14:54 AM   
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Many people like chopped tomatoes in their mac-n-cheese.
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No. *handslap*

You get your fricking tomatos away from my macncheese. >:O


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RE: How do I mimic boxed hamburger helper, from scratch? - 1/29/2009 9:46:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		Lol, I don't like tomatoes in mac-n-cheese either. I just said some people do. Some even put tomatoes in chicken paprikash, now if you want to really smack someone, there's a good choice.

BBW, YHMA is always trying to do that, sneaking veggies into meat, fish onto whatever and so forth. To each their own I guess.

HK, soon it will be time to take Nikkita into the back room and test her for, among other things, switch tendercies, err tendencies. If she passes the "battery" of tests then we can give her the secret decoder ring so she can join the fun.

Nikkita, don't worry, we have no plans to attack Poland or the US at this time. (by the way, did you live in Poland during the radio solidarity days ? I know the guy who ran that, it was a big todo at one time)

Anyway, fellow members of the HH gang, don't worry about Nikki, I'll sponsor her in once she has gone through her battery


of testes, err tests.

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