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Mistress monitoring your diet/fitness - 1/28/2009 7:50:17 PM

slavekal

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How do you guys feel about a Mistress demanding that you maintain a level of fitness or a certain weight? I think it would be a lot easier for me to resist that second helping or that slice of pie if I knew that I would be punished for being over a certain weight or waist measurement. Or better still, I would be allowed some reward for meeting a goal Mistress had set. Who agrees? Who hates the idea?

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RE: Mistress monitoring your diet/fitness - 1/28/2009 8:24:45 PM

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My Owner has controlled my diet since the very early parts of our relationship. It's something that's perfectly within her rights to do and it's something that I actually never get annoyed with. I mean, sure, one time I was a tad bummed because "cookies aren't a side dish" :-p

I am her slave and it's firmly within her rights to decide what I eat and what physical activities I take part in. I'm very happy that she does so.

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RE: Mistress monitoring your diet/fitness - 1/28/2009 8:42:27 PM

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encouraging fitness is always a good thing

disciplining for weight gain could get messy.. eg due to increased exercise sub loses fat replacing it with muscle which results in a "good" weight gain..the sub gets punished for improving their health if using weight a the measure..... a sub has some medical come up eg asthma and put on a steroidal inhaler or some other condition whose medication can result in weight gain...sub may not take meds as required if the side effect becomes weight gain because they do not want to disappoint their dom/me .... at a certain age due to genetics many individuals start to thicken in their chest and mid section, even though they have watched their diet and maintained exercise so they become punished for their genetics... or as what happens with many is the thyroid levels start to become lower with age with some will fall too low...one of the effects of low thyroid is weight gain, another possible cause and injury eg back where mobility is lost so weigh gai occurs ......I just about drove myself crazy trying to get one dog's weight from climbing..at 86 lbs I put him on a diet food,,,when his weight went up I cut down the portions I fnally had him cut back to the feeding amount for a 20 pound dog so was basically starving him and after 6 months he gained 6 more pounds....the vet could not explain he was test for thyroid, he was xrayed to see if any abnormalities were present in thje xhest /abdomen..,. finally another person suggested I take the dog off all grains...sure enough once the grains were removed from the diets the weight fell even though I had doubled his calorie intake..so certain food can suddenly one day fuck up metabolic rates, and their are no medical tests that can determine that is the reason and took my over 3 years and lots of money spent at the vet for testing to determine why the weight gain

Because weight gain can occur for so many different reasons I would say no to disciplining for weight gain

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RE: Mistress monitoring your diet/fitness - 1/28/2009 8:59:00 PM

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Yeah, but it's usually pretty easy to tell if weight gain is muscle or fat. And all those factors considered, nine times out of ten, if my waist is getting bigger, it's just because I have been eating too much.

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RE: Mistress monitoring your diet/fitness - 1/28/2009 9:22:59 PM

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my Lady is the dominant slave in my Master's house. She regulates my caffiene intake, because she and Master worry that i drink too much soda. i must only drink so per day, ( enough to keep away withdrawal ) other wise i would be disobeying. Still, she praises me as she knows it isn't easy for me to give up mountain dew...

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RE: Mistress monitoring your diet/fitness - 1/29/2009 12:24:49 AM

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I had a slave for a short while who wanted this from me... Needless to say, it was his request, because I'm a big lady who enjoys my food, and doesn't do the gym, but he wanted to be assisted/motivated along, and that I certainly was happy to do.
It was an interesting experience, because he's the type that felt it was his duty to eat all of the food placed in front of him in a restaurant, so I would sometimes have to stop him (especially when he was trying to finish my leftover).

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RE: Mistress monitoring your diet/fitness - 1/29/2009 12:41:13 AM

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I am not a man but I like the idea. I would like to control fat mans diet and turn him into less fat man. I would enjoy punishing a man for eating off his diet. I think I like this because I could see man lose weight and this would show my power has real results.

I could do same for smoking man and men with other habits. Not drug habits because drugs have more power than even most awesome of dominatrix.

Maybe I make business. I make sign. "Lose 30 pounds in 30 days or I whip your ass"

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RE: Mistress monitoring your diet/fitness - 1/29/2009 3:55:22 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Maya2001

encouraging fitness is always a good thing

disciplining for weight gain could get messy.. eg due to increased exercise sub loses fat replacing it with muscle which results in a "good" weight gain..the sub gets punished for improving their health if using weight a the measure..... a sub has some medical come up eg asthma and put on a steroidal inhaler or some other condition whose medication can result in weight gain...sub may not take meds as required if the side effect becomes weight gain because they do not want to disappoint their dom/me .... at a certain age due to genetics many individuals start to thicken in their chest and mid section, even though they have watched their diet and maintained exercise so they become punished for their genetics... or as what happens with many is the thyroid levels start to become lower with age with some will fall too low...one of the effects of low thyroid is weight gain, another possible cause and injury eg back where mobility is lost so weigh gai occurs ......I just about drove myself crazy trying to get one dog's weight from climbing..at 86 lbs I put him on a diet food,,,when his weight went up I cut down the portions I fnally had him cut back to the feeding amount for a 20 pound dog so was basically starving him and after 6 months he gained 6 more pounds....the vet could not explain he was test for thyroid, he was xrayed to see if any abnormalities were present in thje xhest /abdomen..,. finally another person suggested I take the dog off all grains...sure enough once the grains were removed from the diets the weight fell even though I had doubled his calorie intake..so certain food can suddenly one day fuck up metabolic rates, and their are no medical tests that can determine that is the reason and took my over 3 years and lots of money spent at the vet for testing to determine why the weight gain

Because weight gain can occur for so many different reasons I would say no to disciplining for weight gain

Maya 2001,

I totally agree with your posting. Unless the Dom/Domme has expert medical knowledge then to try and control weight gain that may be as a result of a condition or medication is rather dangerous.

However, having said that I believe a Dom/Domme can and should take an interest in the general health and well being of their sub/slave. If any medical issues or health issues arise, perhaps encourage their sub/slave to seek further medical assistance. Perhaps even attend their doctor or specialist with them. Not just for the support it can bring their sub/slave but to inform themselves of anything they need to be mindful or aware of within that relationship.

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RE: Mistress monitoring your diet/fitness - 1/29/2009 4:22:28 AM

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I had a 'dom' tell me once that he wanted me to lose weight .. 5 pounds per week, to be exact. Um... er... none of my 'gee, you know what medical experts say' were met with understanding. He didn't last. Go figure.

I've generally found for myself that the motivation for losing weight has to come from within, otherwise it's short-lived, but if it works for you, go for it.

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RE: Mistress monitoring your diet/fitness - 1/29/2009 4:57:07 AM

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Controlling someone's diet and exercise is something most parents do, as well as most wives/person that does the cooking, so it's not so odd at all. When dealing with adults though, there is often some underlying conditions for lack of exercise or bad diet. There can be eating disorders, years of bad habits, a lifestyle that is not conducive to exercise, injuries, body image issues, the list goes on and on.

While the idea is fun and hot and sort of works on the same idea as a support group for dieting or healthy living, I am going to have to say check with your doctor before you start any workout program or diet.

When it has been an issue for a sub with us, we first get medical-nutritionalist advice and then help set goals and give motivation. We have seen eating disorders (plan included group therapy to help work past the "real" issue), body image issues (plan included removal of TV and fashion mags and substituting with other movies and mags with real people in them), and medical obesity (plan included cooking classes in my kitchen, education on portions and healthy eating, and doctor visits to make sure the weight loss wasn't too fast and the exercise wasn't too much).

I guess my point, if there is one, is that this is potentially a REALLY heavy burden to put on the D side of the whip if you try to do something fast and really requires a lot of work from all involved to make it safe and sane. If you go slow, like months to improve the core behaviors, then it just takes a ton of time and support from the D side and a totally different system of disipline, reward, and punishment needs to be in place for this aspect of the d/s. IMHO

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RE: Mistress monitoring your diet/fitness - 1/29/2009 5:03:31 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Nikitaa

Maybe I make business. I make sign. "Lose 30 pounds in 30 days or I whip your ass"

To the op...I think it would be extremely motivating for me to eat the right way and to have a more set workout schedule if he is the one making the schedule.

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RE: Mistress monitoring your diet/fitness - 1/29/2009 5:20:36 AM

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Playing with weight and diet is not a good thing. If you are at your mother's and have to refuse her pineapple upside down cake for fear of punishment, that would punish your mother. Lose your job and need some comfort food? Nope, no comfort there and no other comfort coming your way.

Now health is something else. Demand you keep a food journal, and that you work out four times a week, no problem. Being punished puts the onus of being healthy on her, you can still pig out and just accept the punishment. This isn't her problem, it's yours. Which is why positive reinforcement of healthy measures is the better choice, because if you get in the habit of tracking your eating, and in the habit of hitting the trails at the same time every day you will most likely keep this habit even if the relationship ends.

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RE: Mistress monitoring your diet/fitness - 1/29/2009 8:06:55 AM

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Well, I have a medical condition that means that I gain weight easily. Excercise and the typical counting calorie diets won't work....and in fact the counting calorie diet will make my condition worse and cause permanent damage.

So, unless the Dominant is a medical doctor that specializes in the disease that I have.....the Dominant stays out of my diet choices.

Master is aware of the disease and has a general idea of how what I eat works and he will remind me when I'm making poor choices. But, he won't choose what I eat because he understands that he doesn't know enough about the details.

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RE: Mistress monitoring your diet/fitness - 1/29/2009 9:33:42 AM

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Master loves me just the way i am but i want to lose weight for ME. I watch what i eat got to katate 3 days a week and in the nice weather take a 1 hour walk. I have lost 1o0bs already. Master does not want to control my weight or diet to him that is micromanaging and he does not want to do that. If losing weight is what i want to do he supports my efforts.

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RE: Mistress monitoring your diet/fitness - 1/29/2009 9:50:56 AM

Surata

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My roommate helped me a lot in this area, basically taking the reins and giving me some direction. He praised me when I dropped weight and encouraged me when the weight either leveled off or went back up a bit. He kept things around here as low-stress as he could, and let me help him with his hobbies when I needed calming. Otherwise, it was all me. Because of this, I was able to drop from 178 to 140 in a few months, get my muscle tone back up, and change my overall mood. Now I have a dom friend who is helping me fine tune things, and I've never been happier with myself. I honestly don't think I could have done this on my own, not with where I used to be emotionally. I'm grateful to both of them.

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RE: Mistress monitoring your diet/fitness - 1/29/2009 11:18:18 AM

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I expect healthy life choices. If someone smokes, they will quit before they belong to me. If they drink soda, they will be cutting wayyyyyyyyyyy back. If they don't eat a healthy diet, they will. If they don't drink enough water, they will. If they do not get enough exercise, they will. If they have a specific health condition (example, diabetes) and are not adhering to the proper lifestyle choices dictated by that health condition, they will. No maybes or just do your best, about it.

I wouldn't focus as much on numbers like weight or size, but on over all health.

Demanding someone else do it also has a benefit for me in that, I feel I must then provide a good example.

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RE: Mistress monitoring your diet/fitness - 1/29/2009 2:18:36 PM

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Sure, there are some folks who have health issues, medications, etc. But most of us, especially Americans, me included, gain because food is abundant, cheap, and delicious. I don't ask Ms. Mlicious to make me do anything because that is just topping from the bottom, and it's no fun for anyone. But I for one appreciate a Mistress who says she wants a slave who is in shape and who sets reasonable and attainable goals with suitable rewards/punishments.

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RE: Mistress monitoring your diet/fitness - 1/29/2009 2:20:38 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: slavekal

How do you guys feel about a Mistress demanding that you maintain a level of fitness or a certain weight? I think it would be a lot easier for me to resist that second helping or that slice of pie if I knew that I would be punished for being over a certain weight or waist measurement. Or better still, I would be allowed some reward for meeting a goal Mistress had set. Who agrees? Who hates the idea?

I think this is a great idea. A support system to help you along the way.
Although this reminds me of a story my friend told me.
She likes pain, alot! but she didn't have a Master to help her with this. She was a waitress at the time.. so she rigged up some contraption that would shock her pussy lips when she hit this button. She decided that each time someone ordered pie, she would hit the button. A little 'reward' for herself for selling pie. She became quite the good little pie pusher and now we have a great time asking her for pie and often.

Rewards can be great motivations as can be punishments.. sometimes the line is blurred between the two. But anything that helps me be healthier, happier and more energy so i can serve my Master is always a good thing.

I'm also on a medical diet. My body can't process fat and puts me in terrible pain when i have too much of it. Master has been to every dr's appointment and nutrionist appointment. He monitors what i eat and helps me try to find new foods my body will tolerate. At first i fought this, i'd see another bowl of rice chex and just start crying and i'd sneak food when he was gone and put myself into pain.

Until a dear friend pointed out to me how i was cheating Master and myself by not making myself as healthy as i could for us to have the best life we can have, because honestly we don't know how much life we have so we should make the best of what we do have.

So in a nutshell, I feel any interest and involvement Master makes in my life is including me more into his.

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Maybe I make business. I make sign. "Lose 30 pounds in 30 days or I whip your ass"

I LOVE THIS SIGN!!!!

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RE: Mistress monitoring your diet/fitness - 1/29/2009 2:30:56 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Nikitaa
Maybe I make business. I make sign. "Lose 30 pounds in 30 days or I whip your ass"

I would loooove to help with this health campaign! Call I be your sale's girl and call people and ask if they want to really loose weight and learn about control? (falls over giggling with images of subs and slaves cold calling people from a phone bank with D/s and bdsm "positive thinking" posters on the walls. Ponder for a moment the rewards of being the best sale's person... or the worst! and the dress code! this could be my dream job!)

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RE: Mistress monitoring your diet/fitness - 1/29/2009 2:32:26 PM

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LOL - I think we have a winner! Now all she needs is some start up cash for her new buiseness! *hunts in her couch for spare change*

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