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black/racial domination - 1/31/2009 7:43:23 PM   
littleannie


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I'm just wondering how common this really is... the concept of being racially dominated, especially by a black male. I've talked to a couple black Doms off this site and a few that were directly into black master/white slave. But I will admit I do not know much about it in general, and am just now trying to turn thought and fantasy into reality.

im just wondering if this is a too far out concept even for this site, which seems weird. I have heard some people say that within d/s there should not be racial boundaries like that. However it is a huge turn on, and I believe I would much more eagerly serve a black master then anybody else.

Anybody have experience with this?
Eager to hear any and all thoughts on this subject.
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RE: black/racial domination - 1/31/2009 7:57:44 PM   
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I would view this as a preference... and we all have preferences...

As far as using racial domination as a 'theme'... again, it's a preference or maybe a fetish, which we all have...

I wouldn't consider it 'far out' at all...

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RE: black/racial domination - 1/31/2009 8:01:43 PM   
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I get alot of males saying it is their fantasy..*shruggs*to each its own hun. In this world, nothing should make you raise your eyebrow-at least not me anyway..lol


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RE: black/racial domination - 1/31/2009 8:14:30 PM   
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Well, black men turn me on quite a bit anyway so nothing really shocks me.  I have heard of this some, although not on a regular basis.

I say if it's something that gets your motor running, you should look into it and see how you feel in the actual situation.

We all have our kinks around here, you aren't any different :)


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RE: black/racial domination - 1/31/2009 8:16:19 PM   
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I think it's hot.

Embrace the "taboo" :)

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RE: black/racial domination - 1/31/2009 8:44:13 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: littleannie
im just wondering if this is a too far out concept even for this site, which seems weird. I have heard some people say that within d/s there should not be racial boundaries like that. However it is a huge turn on, and I believe I would much more eagerly serve a black master then anybody else.

Anybody have experience with this?
Eager to hear any and all thoughts on this subject.


You're an attractive young lady. Your still in the blossoming of youth at that. You still have a lot of innocence about you which is evidenced from your question and your photo.

Cherish innocence.

However, you are apparently a young lady too, and exploration of sexual pleasures and life style fetishes more than intrigues you. This in itself is not abnormal, and do not despair because of that. Do not feel bad about yourself.

Your fetish for Black domination is likely rooted in some personal history of yours - nuances aspects. Possibly - not saying it is - it could also have some minor influence in being from Portland (if your were raised there) were Black-Americans make up a small percent of the population.

I'll request though, dear, that you be careful. Not to suggest Black men are more dangerous or suspect then White men, not at all. But many Black men live in urban areas of the U.S., and many come from lower income areas of the U.S., which can carry some social mores and associates some young ladies might not be prepared for. I can my concern comes from being knowledgeable of young ladies from the suburbs who came to the inner city, prostituted, and got caught up in some very dangerous and abusive lifestyles with both men and women from the inner cities who operate often, on different set of ethics (if you can call it that).

Perhaps I'm just *remembering* to much and because of that projecting to much into your comments and questions. If so, I apologize.

Find a Black guy (or gal) that will dominate you totally the way you wish but that will *try* and protect you too. Actually, this goes for any race, but I *remember* to much from the inner city.

Chicks like you though, make me think I ought to pursue being an exploitative dominant rather than being a sub open to being exploited. I've had more than one chick from the street tell me I could become a pimp, but in a way I'm too soft for that. I dunno.

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RE: black/racial domination - 1/31/2009 9:21:37 PM   
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Okay now I feel really dumb and naive but oh well. thanks for y'alls responses anyway. it is nice to know i am not too much of an abnormalty.

I would like to say thats its not so much that black men turn me on, although they do, so much as the actual black master / white slave positions. The theory that I am a surburban girl with not much urban experience is an interesting one, although I'm not sure exactly how valid. I've lived in many different cities, and right now I live in a mostly black neighborhood in the urban area of Portland. so i dunno. interesting thought though

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RE: black/racial domination - 1/31/2009 9:21:54 PM   
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[/quote]

You're an attractive young lady. Your still in the blossoming of youth at that. You still have a lot of innocence about you which is evidenced from your question and your photo.

Cherish innocence.

However, you are apparently a young lady too, and exploration of sexual pleasures and life style fetishes more than intrigues you. This in itself is not abnormal, and do not despair because of that. Do not feel bad about yourself.

Your fetish for Black domination is likely rooted in some personal history of yours - nuances aspects. Possibly - not saying it is - it could also have some minor influence in being from Portland (if your were raised there) were Black-Americans make up a small percent of the population.

I'll request though, dear, that you be careful. Not to suggest Black men are more dangerous or suspect then White men, not at all. But many Black men live in urban areas of the U.S., and many come from lower income areas of the U.S., which can carry some social mores and associates some young ladies might not be prepared for. I can my concern comes from being knowledgeable of young ladies from the suburbs who came to the inner city, prostituted, and got caught up in some very dangerous and abusive lifestyles with both men and women from the inner cities who operate often, on different set of ethics (if you can call it that).

Perhaps I'm just *remembering* to much and because of that projecting to much into your comments and questions. If so, I apologize.

Find a Black guy (or gal) that will dominate you totally the way you wish but that will *try* and protect you too. Actually, this goes for any race, but I *remember* to much from the inner city.

Chicks like you though, make me think I ought to pursue being an exploitative dominant rather than being a sub open to being exploited. I've had more than one chick from the street tell me I could become a pimp, but in a way I'm too soft for that. I dunno.

[/quote]

Oh for god's sake. What a bunch of crap.  Many *people* live in urban areas of the United States. Race has nothing to do with it.  The economic status of any area or neighborhood does not define all the inhabitants of that area and certainly not in the negative way your depicting.
Your correct about one thing..........you are *projecting* quite a lot of speculative bullshit and unsubstantiated  assumptions that reek of racism.







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RE: black/racial domination - 1/31/2009 9:24:39 PM   
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quote:


Oh for god's sake. What a bunch of crap.  Many *people* live in urban areas of the United States. Race has nothing to do with it.  The economic status of any area or neighborhood does not define all the inhabitants of that area and certainly not in the negative way your depicting.
Your correct about one thing..........you are *projecting* quite a lot of speculative bullshit and unsubstantiated  assumptions that reek of racism.




Haha, thank you. I didnt quite know how to say it in my own words but I agree

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RE: black/racial domination - 1/31/2009 9:32:07 PM   
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I agree with UPSG, be careful.  I would ignore cries of "that's racist" because it ISN'T racist.  To claim that everybody is the same is racist.  We're NOT the same and if someone tries to tell you that everybody is exactly identical is misleading you.  So yeah, be aware.

At the same time, my advice is to enjoy yourself and explore things.  If the whole "black in charge, white taking orders" thing is hot for you, what's the problem?  Fantasies are for being explored and sometimes indulged.  :)


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RE: black/racial domination - 1/31/2009 9:36:21 PM   
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Well said Normal, I really have nothin to add except that this might be worth me looking into.

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RE: black/racial domination - 1/31/2009 9:39:44 PM   
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littleannie,

Its not any weirder than any other fetish and probably a lot more common than you think. The only time it becomes an issue of race is when you attach a negative spin to it .  If you see it as a turn on and something you'd like to explore go for it. Preference is a personal thing we are all entitled to.

My Master is African American. I  have to say he is without a doubt one of the sexiest men I have ever been with and actually the only black man I've ever been with. He is also my husband.
My initial attraction to him wasn't because he was black. It was more the air of confidence about him, his sense of humor and his knowledge and then it was all about his beautiful chocolate features. He looks like a God naked!

Good luck!

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RE: black/racial domination - 1/31/2009 9:46:18 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: UPSG

quote:

ORIGINAL: littleannie
im just wondering if this is a too far out concept even for this site, which seems weird. I have heard some people say that within d/s there should not be racial boundaries like that. However it is a huge turn on, and I believe I would much more eagerly serve a black master then anybody else.

Anybody have experience with this?
Eager to hear any and all thoughts on this subject.


You're an attractive young lady. Your still in the blossoming of youth at that. You still have a lot of innocence about you which is evidenced from your question and your photo.

Cherish innocence.

However, you are apparently a young lady too, and exploration of sexual pleasures and life style fetishes more than intrigues you. This in itself is not abnormal, and do not despair because of that. Do not feel bad about yourself.

Your fetish for Black domination is likely rooted in some personal history of yours - nuances aspects. Possibly - not saying it is - it could also have some minor influence in being from Portland (if your were raised there) were Black-Americans make up a small percent of the population.

I'll request though, dear, that you be careful. Not to suggest Black men are more dangerous or suspect then White men, not at all. But many Black men live in urban areas of the U.S., and many come from lower income areas of the U.S., which can carry some social mores and associates some young ladies might not be prepared for. I can my concern comes from being knowledgeable of young ladies from the suburbs who came to the inner city, prostituted, and got caught up in some very dangerous and abusive lifestyles with both men and women from the inner cities who operate often, on different set of ethics (if you can call it that).

Perhaps I'm just *remembering* to much and because of that projecting to much into your comments and questions. If so, I apologize.

Find a Black guy (or gal) that will dominate you totally the way you wish but that will *try* and protect you too. Actually, this goes for any race, but I *remember* to much from the inner city.

Chicks like you though, make me think I ought to pursue being an exploitative dominant rather than being a sub open to being exploited. I've had more than one chick from the street tell me I could become a pimp, but in a way I'm too soft for that. I dunno.



WTF?!

This entire post was a crock of racist, patronizing bullshit, IMHO.

OP, watch out for people like him, who couch their prejudice in terms of supposed concern for your welfare.

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RE: black/racial domination - 1/31/2009 9:56:11 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: dreamerdreaming

quote:

ORIGINAL: UPSG

quote:

ORIGINAL: littleannie
im just wondering if this is a too far out concept even for this site, which seems weird. I have heard some people say that within d/s there should not be racial boundaries like that. However it is a huge turn on, and I believe I would much more eagerly serve a black master then anybody else.

Anybody have experience with this?
Eager to hear any and all thoughts on this subject.


You're an attractive young lady. Your still in the blossoming of youth at that. You still have a lot of innocence about you which is evidenced from your question and your photo.

Cherish innocence.

However, you are apparently a young lady too, and exploration of sexual pleasures and life style fetishes more than intrigues you. This in itself is not abnormal, and do not despair because of that. Do not feel bad about yourself.

Your fetish for Black domination is likely rooted in some personal history of yours - nuances aspects. Possibly - not saying it is - it could also have some minor influence in being from Portland (if your were raised there) were Black-Americans make up a small percent of the population.

I'll request though, dear, that you be careful. Not to suggest Black men are more dangerous or suspect then White men, not at all. But many Black men live in urban areas of the U.S., and many come from lower income areas of the U.S., which can carry some social mores and associates some young ladies might not be prepared for. I can my concern comes from being knowledgeable of young ladies from the suburbs who came to the inner city, prostituted, and got caught up in some very dangerous and abusive lifestyles with both men and women from the inner cities who operate often, on different set of ethics (if you can call it that).

Perhaps I'm just *remembering* to much and because of that projecting to much into your comments and questions. If so, I apologize.

Find a Black guy (or gal) that will dominate you totally the way you wish but that will *try* and protect you too. Actually, this goes for any race, but I *remember* to much from the inner city.

Chicks like you though, make me think I ought to pursue being an exploitative dominant rather than being a sub open to being exploited. I've had more than one chick from the street tell me I could become a pimp, but in a way I'm too soft for that. I dunno.



WTF?!

This entire post was a crock of racist, patronizing bullshit, IMHO.

OP, watch out for people like him, who couch their prejudice in terms of supposed concern for your welfare.


Sounds like it's you who is racist, hmmm?  (I'm saying that to point out the fact that if anyone mentions the concept of genetically different people, someone immediately feels the need to say "YOU'RE RACIST!!!")
I'd like to know what you think is so incorrect about the post, other than "the entire post".  Chances are you can't pick out anything that is racist.

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RE: black/racial domination - 1/31/2009 10:17:19 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: scarlethiney

quote:

ORIGINAL: UPSG

I'll request though, dear, that you be careful. Not to suggest Black men are more dangerous or suspect then White men, not at all. But many Black men live in urban areas of the U.S., and many come from lower income areas of the U.S., which can carry some social mores and associates some young ladies might not be prepared for. I can my concern comes from being knowledgeable of young ladies from the suburbs who came to the inner city, prostituted, and got caught up in some very dangerous and abusive lifestyles with both men and women from the inner cities who operate often, on different set of ethics (if you can call it that).

Perhaps I'm just *remembering* to much and because of that projecting to much into your comments and questions. If so, I apologize.

Find a Black guy (or gal) that will dominate you totally the way you wish but that will *try* and protect you too. Actually, this goes for any race, but I *remember* to much from the inner city.



Oh for god's sake. What a bunch of crap.  Many *people* live in urban areas of the United States. Race has nothing to do with it.  The economic status of any area or neighborhood does not define all the inhabitants of that area and certainly not in the negative way your depicting.
Your correct about one thing..........you are *projecting* quite a lot of speculative bullshit and unsubstantiated  assumptions
that reek of racism.


I agree with the part I've highlighted in red.  I don't know if it necessarily "reeks of racism," but it certainly is projection and seems to be based in fear of the unknown or classism.

I have been with a wonderful black Dom, who is my Master, for nearly 6 years.  He was raised in the inner city, by a single mother, who managed to bring up four great kids.  (One is a nurse, one is a business woman, one is a Ph.D. professor at a university, and DaddyBoo has a Master's Degree in His profession.)

My ex-husband was from overseas where the caste system is a hugely important thing with who you are, who you associate, what people think of you, and what is expected of you.  I lived there for a while and saw first hand how this type of whacked out thinking worked.  Sometimes people who are told or who are assumed to be "so bad" simply don't rise above that expectation.  Some people who are thought to be so much more "advanced" or "classy" are actually huge piles of dog shit.  They can be awful people, truly.  My ex was from the highest caste and a very wealthy family, a lovely family.  But I saw how they looked down their noses at other people.  It sucked.  I wasn't allowed to be around "those people" while I lived there because they were afraid that it would tarnish the image their family had.  *gag*

I used to live in a big, spiffy neighborhood before my divorce.  It was super nice, and I was one of the only moms who worked outside of home.  When I got divorced, I had to move to a rental place, in not the best neighborhood.  (We don't have gangs or anything, but there are some troublemakers around, like in just about any place.)  Some of the people here, just like me, have to choose places that are less than what we want because it's all we can afford right now.  There's also a sense of "communal understanding" among those of us who are single moms, and the struggles we have at times. 

So, before you go scaring people away from the "inner city" or whatever crowds, think about what makes you fear them, and why things from years ago are still worrying you now.  Don't make your fears those of someone else because that robs them of a choice.

Annie, I say that whatever turns your crank, go for it.  And like with anything, be careful in what it is that you do. 

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RE: black/racial domination - 1/31/2009 11:37:36 PM   
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In my opinion in his post he(UPSG) refers to black men specifically, then back steps and says he isn't referring to all black men.  That is racist. When you single out one group of people based on ethnicity or economic status then your being racist.
He also alludes to the presumption that everyone who lives in a depressed economy is possibly someone the OP needs to be careful of. There are every ethnicity of the rainbow in inner cities. The majority are hard working families and single parents.
Lets be honest here. He could have just as easily said "Be careful when meeting anyone online or in person". He made it about race. And by the way yes when someone makes a comment that points out a difference and that reference includes race then "I" consider that to be racist. You can use your genetic argument all you want. We all bleed red blood doesn't matter where you come from or what your genetics are.





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RE: black/racial domination - 1/31/2009 11:46:45 PM   
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What's more interesting is that he automatically assumed she was suburban and affluent? middle class at the very least? and that the Black Dom she might meet would be urban, a pimp?, abusive.....

or even more interesting is that this somehow also equated to being from "the inner city" or his "remembering" of the inner city. 

Curiouser and curiouser....

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RE: black/racial domination - 1/31/2009 11:55:18 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: scarlethiney
In my opinion in his post he(UPSG) refers to black men specifically, then back steps and says he isn't referring to all black men.  That is racist. When you single out one group of people based on ethnicity or economic status then your being racist.

"Black people tend to have darker skin than white people."  Oh shit, I'm a racist.
"Asians."  Oh crap, I singled out a group of people based on ethnicity.  Racist again.

quote:

He also alludes to the presumption that everyone who lives in a depressed economy is possibly someone the OP needs to be careful of.

Because they ARE.

quote:

when someone makes a comment that points out a difference and that reference includes race then "I" consider that to be racist.

You clearly don't know what the word "racism" means, and by using it so inappropriately and carelessly, you devalue its meaning even more than it has already been devalued.

Having shown absolutely nothing in the way of proof that the post was racist, I think you should withdraw your accusation and seriously consider never making another one like it until you've at least partially educated yourself.

To the OP, who has a fantasy of being used, degraded, and enslaved by a black male, and has very limited experience with any of it: Be careful.  If you see that as racist then you are a TRULY sick individual who deserves all our scorn.


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RE: black/racial domination - 1/31/2009 11:56:19 PM   
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and as with the previous post about this subject..the word racist has fallen even though the title says "racial domination".
Racial dominations sounds like race is more important then the person Domming you. No one said something about that.

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RE: black/racial domination - 2/1/2009 12:07:36 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Daddysredhead

quote:

ORIGINAL: scarlethiney

quote:

ORIGINAL: UPSG

I'll request though, dear, that you be careful. Not to suggest Black men are more dangerous or suspect then White men, not at all. But many Black men live in urban areas of the U.S., and many come from lower income areas of the U.S., which can carry some social mores and associates some young ladies might not be prepared for. I can my concern comes from being knowledgeable of young ladies from the suburbs who came to the inner city, prostituted, and got caught up in some very dangerous and abusive lifestyles with both men and women from the inner cities who operate often, on different set of ethics (if you can call it that).

Perhaps I'm just *remembering* to much and because of that projecting to much into your comments and questions. If so, I apologize.

Find a Black guy (or gal) that will dominate you totally the way you wish but that will *try* and protect you too. Actually, this goes for any race, but I *remember* to much from the inner city.



Oh for god's sake. What a bunch of crap.  Many *people* live in urban areas of the United States. Race has nothing to do with it.  The economic status of any area or neighborhood does not define all the inhabitants of that area and certainly not in the negative way your depicting.
Your correct about one thing..........you are *projecting* quite a lot of speculative bullshit and unsubstantiated  assumptions
that reek of racism.


I agree with the part I've highlighted in red.  I don't know if it necessarily "reeks of racism," but it certainly is projection and seems to be based in fear of the unknown or classism.

I have been with a wonderful black Dom, who is my Master, for nearly 6 years.  He was raised in the inner city, by a single mother, who managed to bring up four great kids.  (One is a nurse, one is a business woman, one is a Ph.D. professor at a university, and DaddyBoo has a Master's Degree in His profession.)

My ex-husband was from overseas where the caste system is a hugely important thing with who you are, who you associate, what people think of you, and what is expected of you.  I lived there for a while and saw first hand how this type of whacked out thinking worked.  Sometimes people who are told or who are assumed to be "so bad" simply don't rise above that expectation.  Some people who are thought to be so much more "advanced" or "classy" are actually huge piles of dog shit.  They can be awful people, truly.  My ex was from the highest caste and a very wealthy family, a lovely family.  But I saw how they looked down their noses at other people.  It sucked.  I wasn't allowed to be around "those people" while I lived there because they were afraid that it would tarnish the image their family had.  *gag*

I used to live in a big, spiffy neighborhood before my divorce.  It was super nice, and I was one of the only moms who worked outside of home.  When I got divorced, I had to move to a rental place, in not the best neighborhood.  (We don't have gangs or anything, but there are some troublemakers around, like in just about any place.)  Some of the people here, just like me, have to choose places that are less than what we want because it's all we can afford right now.  There's also a sense of "communal understanding" among those of us who are single moms, and the struggles we have at times. 

So, before you go scaring people away from the "inner city" or whatever crowds, think about what makes you fear them, and why things from years ago are still worrying you now.  Don't make your fears those of someone else because that robs them of a choice.

Annie, I say that whatever turns your crank, go for it.  And like with anything, be careful in what it is that you do. 

~ Red



Red,  I agree with you.
Fear creates
prejudice.







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