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RE: The "begging" Question - 2/1/2009 3:22:02 PM   
Lovemetomorrow


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ORIGINAL: littlewonder

I don't see it as humiliating at all but there are times when Master desires to hear me beg and so I do beg for him.

For me it's just another part of being obedient to him and extremely wanting or needing something from him. Otherwise it just feels fake to me.



Though I do not have a Master I would have to agree. To me its just another part of doing what I know I am supposed to do. There are times when I love begging and I know that the only way I am going to get something is to beg. However, I will not beg if I truly do not want it. There is no point because it always shows that I am doing it just to please. And I have learned that while a M or D loves to hear a sub/slave beg most of the time they would rather it be sincere.


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RE: The "begging" Question - 2/1/2009 3:40:33 PM   
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How do you separate role play from sincere? If he wants me to beg for something and I do it, is that role play because he initiated it or is it sincere if I really want it?

I'm very bad at it however. In a headspace where I am sincere, I am not very verbal. So about all I can do is say "please, please, please". If he wants me articulate, then I'm not in a headspace where I would sincerely want it.

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RE: The "begging" Question - 2/1/2009 4:35:44 PM   
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Role play begging, im very much into but maybe it goes a little beyond that as i enjoy when a submissive begs in general as long as it sexually orientated.
Whilst i would never expect nor wish for a submissive to beg for  normal day to day items or to go out with her friends etc, if she were to beg id view it more as foreplay and she would be unlikely to get the item in question within the near future as id enjoy the begging to much which is part of my nature i do find a little disturbing.(but hell ill try to live with myself for this failing!)

as a subnote: i would say ive never been motivated to put a girl in a position to beg in  roleplay as humiliating to her, i simply find the exhibition of her ensuring her base desires are met using any tools at her disposal to be as hot as hell and anything but humiliation play, but an exhibition of her female sexuality in a raw state....in other words i find it a beautiful sign of her sexual femine self.



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RE: The "begging" Question - 2/1/2009 6:13:50 PM   
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The only time begging feels natural to me is when I'm pushed beyond my capacity to bear whatever is being done to me or denied me ... either his holding my orgasm off, or possibly if the impact play is deeper than usual, or if I am really, really feeling the need to, say, orally serve him or whatever.  But it has to almost fall off my tongue, and the words just pour out when it does ... otherwise it is forced and sound silly like I'm rehearsing for a play.  He never requires me to beg.

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RE: The "begging" Question - 2/1/2009 7:18:17 PM   
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ORIGINAL: CelticPrince

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ORIGINAL: Nikitaa

I enjoy when my sub begs and cries sometimes. Only if he has good reason and I try giving him good reason. I do not like if he beg too easy or if he beg for silly reason.

My favorite is when my sub beg and get angry at same time. He once did something which made me very much angry so I had him sit in the closet for 8 hours. After 3 hours he was begging for permission to come out and after 5 hours he was getting angry and frustrated. He kicked the door and wall in frustration (door was not locked). I add extra 2 housr because he kicked the wall. He almost cried. Finally he calm down. I enjoyed hearing him whimper.

I only did this once and because he did serious infraction. Most time punishment is mixture of fun kinky stuff he like and a little pain he do not like.


Nikitaa,

They all get assimilated....... right?

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RE: The "begging" Question - 2/1/2009 7:36:09 PM   
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What is your take on it regardless of which side of the slash your on?

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RE: The "begging" Question - 2/1/2009 8:29:27 PM   
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ORIGINAL: NuevaVida

It depends what the begging is for.  A treat?  To go shopping?  For attention?  Totally unattractive, in my eyes, and in the eyes of the men I have been with.  Begging for an orgasm when right on the bring?  Begging to suck?  Showing a desperate hunger to please?  I've never received any negative feedback about that.


NVida,

I certainly like the second example the best.

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RE: The "begging" Question - 2/1/2009 8:32:56 PM   
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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

I don't really beg outside of playtime. There are times I jump up and down, make cute faces and go "please, please, please" but I don't see that as begging - not in the "true" sense of the world though we'll playfully call it begging. I glanced over at webster.com and the defination they have listed (among others of course) that fits with me is to ask earnestly, as in to beg for mercy.

Basically, if it isn't something big on the line it just feels like me being a goof.


Aquatic,

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RE: The "begging" Question - 2/1/2009 8:33:29 PM   
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I see begging as nothing more than a sub/slave respectfully asking for something where as were we together as equalls the asking would be a request.. For me it is just how someone identifies as. 

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RE: The "begging" Question - 2/1/2009 8:37:04 PM   
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ORIGINAL: KnightofMists

quote:

What is your take on it regardless of which side of the slash your on?

CP


Its hot when it's genuine... boring when it's not!


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RE: The "begging" Question - 2/1/2009 8:38:06 PM   
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ORIGINAL: agirl

The idea of begging just reminds me of the sprogs not taking *no* for an answer. They'd get a big fat NO, and so would I.

I think we're too lazy to do begging....I'd rather suck sand than beg, for fun, and it'd get boring having to slap me silly.

I have pleaded on serious issues...could be seen as begging*

agirl



agirl,

suck sand??? surely there are better things in your life? chuckles, thanks for your input.

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RE: The "begging" Question - 2/1/2009 8:41:37 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Andalusite

My previous Dom loved making me beg, but I felt stupid doing so unless I really wanted/didn't want the thing in question. So, he escalated it to the point where I seriously *did* want him to stop/etc.


Andalusite,

I guess that might be described as negative begging, does't do much for either side of the slash.

CP

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RE: The "begging" Question - 2/1/2009 8:46:43 PM   
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ORIGINAL: mc1234

The only time begging feels natural to me is when I'm pushed beyond my capacity to bear whatever is being done to me or denied me ... either his holding my orgasm off, or possibly if the impact play is deeper than usual, or if I am really, really feeling the need to, say, orally serve him or whatever.  But it has to almost fall off my tongue, and the words just pour out when it does ... otherwise it is forced and sound silly like I'm rehearsing for a play.  He never requires me to beg.



mc1234,

Then it sounds to me that you have captured the art of erotic begging, and when that occurs, it is a win /win/

Thnaks for your thoughts.

CP

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RE: The "begging" Question - 2/1/2009 8:48:37 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Nikitaa


quote:

ORIGINAL: CelticPrince

quote:

ORIGINAL: Nikitaa

I enjoy when my sub begs and cries sometimes. Only if he has good reason and I try giving him good reason. I do not like if he beg too easy or if he beg for silly reason.

My favorite is when my sub beg and get angry at same time. He once did something which made me very much angry so I had him sit in the closet for 8 hours. After 3 hours he was begging for permission to come out and after 5 hours he was getting angry and frustrated. He kicked the door and wall in frustration (door was not locked). I add extra 2 housr because he kicked the wall. He almost cried. Finally he calm down. I enjoyed hearing him whimper.

I only did this once and because he did serious infraction. Most time punishment is mixture of fun kinky stuff he like and a little pain he do not like.


Nikitaa,

They all get assimilated....... right?

CP



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Nikitaa,

laughs, then what?

CP

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RE: The "begging" Question - 2/1/2009 11:20:19 PM   
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Depends why you are begging. I enjoy when my subs beg for an orgasm or to be released from a phone sex session. But I don't enjoy begging in non-sexual encounters. For example: "Please, Master, buy me those red stiletto pumps!" does not do anything for me. (unless she's on a collar and leash in the store while begging....)

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RE: The "begging" Question - 2/2/2009 12:39:09 AM   
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The only begging I enjoy, is when my subs beg for my pain to stop.

I do not appreciate begging in it's placid, state.

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RE: The "begging" Question - 2/2/2009 12:57:59 AM   
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I do not beg...never have and never will.A firm hard limit for me.

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RE: The "begging" Question - 2/2/2009 1:41:33 AM   
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ORIGINAL: CelticPrince

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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

I don't really beg outside of playtime. There are times I jump up and down, make cute faces and go "please, please, please" but I don't see that as begging - not in the "true" sense of the world though we'll playfully call it begging. I glanced over at webster.com and the defination they have listed (among others of course) that fits with me is to ask earnestly, as in to beg for mercy.

Basically, if it isn't something big on the line it just feels like me being a goof.


Aquatic,

Smiles at the image of your jumping up and down /////////// actually the post is not on weedling, it is directed toward when in a scene.

CP


I would define begging in the scene as part of the roles we take on, or roleplay. The only time I ever beg him in a scene is for things I know I don't actually have to beg for. It's just the words that arouse us to hear.

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RE: The "begging" Question - 2/2/2009 5:50:12 AM   
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ORIGINAL: IronBear

I see begging as nothing more than a sub/slave respectfully asking for something where as were we together as equalls the asking would be a request.. For me it is just how someone identifies as. 


Master and Mistress expect it in that same kind of way Iron Bear, Sir,

For me, though begging is an incredibly difficult thing to do.  When I was younger there was some serious abuse coupled with asking for anything. So just asking is a hard thing for me to do.  Master and Mistress require me to ask for what I want.  *sigh*  Well, at my request, I now ask for everything.  May I get online for a few minutes?  May I make a phone call?  May I go to the bathroom/get a glass of water/sit down?  It makes asking for little things that I don't really care about easy.  But asking for something I want - like a hug or time alone or to be used... I end up sobbing.  Imagine sobbing just to get a hug.  It is a place of great vulnerability which has been betrayed many times in the past.  The mere act pulls the deepest fears out of me. 

She will say to me "You might want to ask for permission to go to a coffee shop and read for awhile" or someething like that.  And when I start thinking about asking, she says, "no no, that wasn't a suggestion."  *sigh*  One day I explained it all to them and the vulnerability that I went to - which is very close to the "scary place" for me - was exactly what they wanted.  They want me in that state of vulnerability and openness.  *big fat hairy sigh*

I can't cope when I'm that vulnerable, so I resist it quite a lot.  But we are making progress.  As folks from here know, I can call my friends, I can visit my family, I can get the things I need.  They rarely say no to those things, and when they do, there is a reason.  But it is in the asking that my heart just splits wide open because any step above a simple question is a fearful and innocent place for me.  And they take care to tread gently there.  It is healing.  It is horrible.

Well wishes, 
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RE: The "begging" Question - 2/2/2009 6:00:28 AM   
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IMHO only, begging equates to whining, can't stand begging, can't stand whining.

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