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ORIGINAL: MsEmpwr2

dreamerdreaming,
There is no better way to state it in My eyes.
Thank you!

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ORIGINAL: graceadieu

I love begging. For me, it isn't about humiliation - it's a raw and near-involuntary expression of utter powerlessness and overwhelming desire. Being in that state, that subby headspace, is just so powerful.

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ORIGINAL: graceadieu

I love begging. For me, it isn't about humiliation - it's a raw and near-involuntary expression of utter powerlessness and overwhelming desire. Being in that state, that subby headspace, is just so powerful.

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ORIGINAL: Andalusite

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ORIGINAL: CelticPrinc
I guess that might be described as negative begging, does't do much for either side of the slash.

Celtic Prince,
It did a *lot* for him. I wasn't really a fan, but he did stay within my limits. He felt that if I *enjoyed* what he was doing, I wasn't submitting to it. He also really liked pushing me to the point of yellow-type safewording out, begging for it to stop, or tapping out if what he was doing prevented me from speaking, over and over again within the same scene.

T1981, I also had a very difficult time at first, begging. My style in BDSM has typically been very non-verbal, and I wanted "yummy good pain" - if I wanted/needed it to stop, I really *DID* want them to cut it out and do something else, and was likely to yellow safe out if they continued. At first, my previous Dom mostly just wanted to hear me beg, but we found I couldn't do it unless he made it uncomfortable enough for me to *REALLY* sincerely want him to stop, but not quite to the point where I was ready to red-type-safe out of it.

He also liked having me do the verbal equivalent of predicament bondage - give me two things I didn't like/couldn't take, at least at the level I was doing them, and do one of them to me until I begged for the other to get a break from the first, and go back and forth until I was barely coherent/understandable.

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ORIGINAL: graceadieu

I love begging. For me, it isn't about humiliation - it's a raw and near-involuntary expression of utter powerlessness and overwhelming desire. Being in that state, that subby headspace, is just so powerful.

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ORIGINAL: BondageBarbieX

I do not beg...never have and never will.A firm hard limit for me.

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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

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ORIGINAL: CelticPrince

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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

I don't really beg outside of playtime. There are times I jump up and down, make cute faces and go "please, please, please" but I don't see that as begging - not in the "true" sense of the world though we'll playfully call it begging. I glanced over at webster.com and the defination they have listed (among others of course) that fits with me is to ask earnestly, as in to beg for mercy.

Basically, if it isn't something big on the line it just feels like me being a goof.

Aquatic,

Smiles at the image of your jumping up and down /////////// actually the post is not on weedling, it is directed toward when in a scene.

CP

I would define begging in the scene as part of the roles we take on, or roleplay. The only time I ever beg him in a scene is for things I know I don't actually have to beg for. It's just the words that arouse us to hear.

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ORIGINAL: CatdeMedici

IMHO only, begging equates to whining, can't stand begging, can't stand whining.

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ORIGINAL: CelticPrince

It seems that this activity/requirement is being employed more and more by both side of the slash.
i do not refer to the rollplay type of begging but the sincere function of begging by the "s" to her/his "D" or "M".
For some on the "s" side it is a nice enhancement to their need humiliation, while others accept it as a desire on the part of their "D" or "M".

What is your take on it regardless of which side of the slash your on?

CP

I love it when it is real...can't stand it when it is not or when it is used to try and get something from me because the submissive thinks that my love of begging will win out in the end. 

When you take what agirl said:  Well, I looked up the dictionary definition and it suggests * asking humbly or solemnly for something*.  I do that.

Further definitions use other descriptors such as implore, beseech, crave, entreat....Yep, I do that too.

If I'm hanging from my ceiling, dancing around in pain from something nasty being applied to my flailing, prone body, I've been known to beg. I've been known to promise a hell of a lot at the same time....lol

So it appears that I'm a bit of a begger...oh well....lol ...
 
and put it together with what Nueva Vida said:  It depends what the begging is for.  A treat?  To go shopping?  For attention?  Totally unattractive, in my eyes, and in the eyes of the men I have been with.  Begging for an orgasm when right on the bring?  Begging to suck?  Showing a desperate hunger to please?  I've never received any negative feedback about that...
 
Begging makes perfect sense to me.  I am not quite sure why it bothers some submissives to have to beg in comparison to much of what they are expected to do but everyone has their own issues to deal with.  I would suggest before you place begging in the same category as whining though that you look up the definitions of begging and then the definitions of whining:  one can see how begging can be done in a whining way but the two ARE different.

 
 

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ORIGINAL: torturedmuse

Honestly begging doesn't do a whole lot for me.  It feels fake and more like I am taking on a role than being myself.  I have never been one to beg for anything in this life, and it's just not my kink to start now.  Luckily M isn't that fond of having me do it..so it works out pretty well.

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ORIGINAL: Andalusite

My previous Dom loved making me beg, but I felt stupid doing so unless I really wanted/didn't want the thing in question. So, he escalated it to the point where I seriously *did* want him to stop/etc.

Andalusite,

I guess that might be described as negative begging, does't do much for either side of the slash.

CP

Says who? Maybe it doesn't do much for either side of your slash, but it's the only kind of begging that doesn't ruin a scene for me. I also think you overlooked the "really wanted" part of Andalusite's post. It didn't refer only to stopping things that aren't like; it referred to a real, serious desire, one way or the other, not a manufactured role play type of begging.

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ORIGINAL: colouredin

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ORIGINAL: CelticPrince

It seems that this activity/requirement is being employed more and more by both side of the slash.
i do not refer to the rollplay type of begging but the sincere function of begging by the "s" to her/his "D" or "M".
For some on the "s" side it is a nice enhancement to their need humiliation, while others accept it as a desire on the part of their "D" or "M".

What is your take on it regardless of which side of the slash your on?

CP

For me begging can get my back up a bit. I can be engulfed in a false sense of pride. I have been known to do it but I dont do it out of enjoyment I am afraid. Sometimes it is genuine sometimes I plead and that to me doesnt matter that still has the tinge of humiliation without feeling silly. No what I dont like is when I am asked to beg, that really doesnt sit with me. Its fake and I dont like my relationships or my intimate activities to be tinged with anything that isnt real. play or scenes are so full of deep potent emotion to fake it would be to taint it somehow and that is the kind of thing that can instantly get me out of the mood. I want things to be genuine. I have begged on demand in the past and I havent enjoyed it. It is still begging for something to stop but it is staged.

There are things I would never beg for, I will ask for things and if I am told no then I dont resort to begging for much maybe some people find it attractive, I think its disrespectful. I expect honesty from my Dominant if im out in the real world and ask for example if we can eat out and he says no I would hope that he means no. I cant be doing with playing. If he doesnt mean no then how am I ever going to know what he means? And how often can I push things?

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ORIGINAL: Andalusite

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ORIGINAL: CelticPrinc
I guess that might be described as negative begging, does't do much for either side of the slash.

Celtic Prince,
It did a *lot* for him. I wasn't really a fan, but he did stay within my limits. He felt that if I *enjoyed* what he was doing, I wasn't submitting to it. He also really liked pushing me to the point of yellow-type safewording out, begging for it to stop, or tapping out if what he was doing prevented me from speaking, over and over again within the same scene.

T1981, I also had a very difficult time at first, begging. My style in BDSM has typically been very non-verbal, and I wanted "yummy good pain" - if I wanted/needed it to stop, I really *DID* want them to cut it out and do something else, and was likely to yellow safe out if they continued. At first, my previous Dom mostly just wanted to hear me beg, but we found I couldn't do it unless he made it uncomfortable enough for me to *REALLY* sincerely want him to stop, but not quite to the point where I was ready to red-type-safe out of it.

He also liked having me do the verbal equivalent of predicament bondage - give me two things I didn't like/couldn't take, at least at the level I was doing them, and do one of them to me until I begged for the other to get a break from the first, and go back and forth until I was barely coherent/understandable.

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ORIGINAL: angelic

For me begging is a very negative thing and when I first read the thread, my first response was 'there is no blippin' way I will ever beg again'.  I say that though because in the past even though I was required to beg, it really didn't matter.  I guess I needed it to matter.  As a result, begging is now a hard limit and I simply will not do it. 

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ORIGINAL: graceadieu

I love begging. For me, it isn't about humiliation - it's a raw and near-involuntary expression of utter powerlessness and overwhelming desire. Being in that state, that subby headspace, is just so powerful.

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ORIGINAL: CelticPrince

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ORIGINAL: angelic

For me begging is a very negative thing and when I first read the thread, my first response was 'there is no blippin' way I will ever beg again'.  I say that though because in the past even though I was required to beg, it really didn't matter.  I guess I needed it to matter.  As a result, begging is now a hard limit and I simply will not do it. 

angelic,

a hard limit? Might be better to save that criteria for something that might be more important........... just a thought. thanks for your input.

CP

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ORIGINAL: CelticPrince

It seems that this activity/requirement is being employed more and more by both side of the slash.
i do not refer to the rollplay type of begging but the sincere function of begging by the "s" to her/his "D" or "M".
For some on the "s" side it is a nice enhancement to their need humiliation, while others accept it as a desire on the part of their "D" or "M".

What is your take on it regardless of which side of the slash your on?

CP

I hate begging. It always seems like I'm acting and I'm a lousy actress. I do much better when I tell him exactly what's on my mind.