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ORIGINAL: blacksword404


If you don't demand more out of them, you won't get it.

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ORIGINAL: Coldwarrior57

Obama appointed more than 17 lobbyists after talking big on anti-lobbyist, clean Governance.

http://www.indiadaily.com/editorial/20471.asp
 
Too bad it is NOT an American news agency.
Things that make you go HMMMMMMMMM.

17 and counting and 2 tax cheats,
LOL
And the sheeple are OK with that !
LOL

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What i expect is that Obama doesn't make the same sort of mistakes that GWB did. i also expect that he'll make wholly new mistakes.

• He's already on board and wanting to expand a similar 'economic stimulus package' as President Bush - with more pork this time if passed as it came from the House.
  
• He, like his predecessor, was "shocked" and "disappointed" that some of the stimulus money he released was going to be paid out in executive bonuses and perks. President Bush was labeled 'dumb', not having a prior example. What's that make President Obama?
  
• His military commander wants to put send 30,000 troops to a foreign county.
  
• He's up 2-0 on President Bush on appointing tax cheats to his inner circle. But they've said they are sorry and won't do it again. Meanwhile his VP, an avowed repentant plagiarist, hasn't shot anyone - yet.
  
• He's appeared on TV during the Superbowl.

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ORIGINAL: corysub

George Bush is not guilty of "mistakes" as much as the fact that he does not possess the oratory skills of Obama.  
              http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/business/general_business/public_support_for_economic_recovery_plan_slips_to_42

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ORIGINAL: corysub
And please, Mr. President, show some respect for the Office and put on a suit jacket...your no longer a street community activist...this is the real deal .

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ORIGINAL: T1981

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ORIGINAL: maybemaybenot

ahh, I get it. It's OK to be corrupt, as long you have a low corruption factor.
Thanx for clearing that up. 
Low level corruption = new leadership, hope and change
High level corruption= not good.

                          mbmbn

You'd prefer the equation were flipped?

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ORIGINAL: MasterShake69

Now if these events occurred a month ago the press would be blaming bush. Since Obama is president not one word in the press about it.  If Katrina occurred under Obama the press would suppress any criticism  just like they did with Bill Clinton during flood of the century .

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/winter_storm_outages

MARION, Ky. – In some parts of rural Kentucky, they're getting water the old-fashioned way — with pails from a creek. There's not room for one more sleeping bag on the shelter floor. The creative are flushing their toilets with melted snow.

At least 42 people have died, including 11 in Kentucky, and conditions are worsening in many places days after an ice storm knocked out power to 1.3 million customers from the Plains to the East Coast. About a million people were still without electric Friday, and with no hope that the lights will come back on soon, small communities are frantically struggling to help their residents.

One county put it bluntly: It can't.
"We're asking people to pack a suitcase and head south and find a motel if they have the means, because we can't service everybody in our shelter," said Crittenden County Judge-Executive Fred Brown, who oversees about 9,000 people, many of whom are sleeping in the town's elementary school.

Local officials were growing angry with what they said was a lack of help from the state and the Federal Emergency Management Agency. In Grayson County, about 80 miles southwest of Louisville, Emergency Management Director Randell Smith said the 25 National Guardsmen who have responded have no chain saws to clear fallen trees.

"We've got people out in some areas we haven't even visited yet," Smith said. "We don't even know that they're alive."

Smith said FEMA has been a no-show so far.

"I'm not saying we can't handle it; we'll handle it," Smith said. "But it would have made life a lot easier" if FEMA had reached the county sooner, he said.

FEMA spokeswoman Mary Hudak said some FEMA personnel already are in Kentucky working in the state's emergency operations center and that more will be arriving in coming days. Hudak said FEMA also has shipped to 50 to 100 generators to the state to supply electricity to facilities like hospitals, nursing homes, and water treatment plants.

Hudak said travel is still dangerous in some areas and communications are limited.

"We have plenty of folks ready to go, but there are some limitations with roads closed and icy conditions," she said.

From Missouri to Ohio, thousands were bunked down in shelters, waiting for the power to return. Others are trying to tough out the power outage at home, using any means they can to get basics like drinking water, heat and food.

Lori Clarke was stuck at home in the western Kentucky town of Marion with trees blocking the road out. She trudged more than half a mile through snow and ice carrying 5-gallon buckets to bring drinking water for her horses and dogs and to flush her toilet.

"When you live out in the country, you just shift into survival mode," she said.

Even for those who wanted to leave, it wasn't possible. The one gas station in Marion that was up and running was able to supply gasoline to emergency vehicles only until another delivery of gasoline arrived Friday. Only half of that gas was made available to the public, and there was a $10 limit.

Linda Young, who is staying the town's shelter, said her car only had enough gas in it to get around Marion. Even if she had gas, there was nowhere to go — all of her relatives in other parts of Kentucky also were hit by the ice storm.

"For right now, this is the best we can do, so this is where we're at," said Young, as she sat on a mattress with her 9-year-old son and 11-year-old daughter.

By midafternoon water service had been restored to the city of Marion thanks to a generator, while efforts continued to restore service to the outlying county, Police Chief Ray O'Neal said. Residents were being told to boil the water before drinking it.

Meanwhile, the death toll was rising: Since the storm began Monday, the weather is suspected in at least 11 deaths in Kentucky, nine more in Arkansas, six each in Texas and Missouri, three in Virginia, two each in Oklahoma, Indiana and West Virginia and one in Ohio, with most of them blamed on hypothermia, traffic accidents and carbon monoxide poisoning from generators.

Among the latest deaths reported were those of a man in his 60s, a woman in her 50s and a woman in her 40s who were found in a southwestern Louisville home Friday. The younger woman was found in bed; the other two were found in the garage, along with a generator, police spokesman Phil Russell said.

The fight to return power to Kentucky and other areas affected by the ice storm is difficult because of the sheer number of outages, but also because of the ice itself. Crews have joined the effort from around the country, but more than a half-million homes and businesses were still out in Kentucky on Friday, along with roughly 78,000 in Missouri and 284,000 in Arkansas. Thousands more were still in the dark in Ohio, Tennessee and West Virginia.

"As ice is melting, power lines and tree limbs are springing upward and hitting other power lines," said Rita Alexander, spokeswoman for Gibson Electric Membership Corp. in Tennessee. "It is just an unpleasant part of the process."

While generators were able to bring some water pumping stations back to life Friday, thousands still didn't have access to running water, and thousands more were under boil advisories. Roughly 200,000 people across Kentucky still don't have water. In Hayti, Mo., alderwoman Lisa Green said a temporary generator was in use to run the water plant, and power was being moved around to pump wastewater through the sewage system, she said.

That wasn't enough. "Our water plant is up and running, but people are inundating it," Green said. The community has received some bottled water, she said, but needs more.

A precious few had enough supplies to tough it out alone. Stephen Cates said his home was being warmed by kerosene heaters and an electric furnace powered by a generator that he waited 4 1/2 hours in line to purchase in Evansville, Ind.

He was flushing his toilet with melted snow, and could even watch TV.

"I'm living just like I have electricity, just about, eating hot food," Cates said.

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Contributing to this report were Associated Press writers Roger Alford in Leitchfield, Ky., Dylan T. Lovan, Rebecca Yonker, Brett Barrouquere and Janet Cappiello Blake in Louisville, Ky., Betsy Taylor in St. Louis and Randall Dickerson in Nashville, Tenn

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ORIGINAL: domiguy

I love it when people are unable to successfully distinguish between two events that have virtually nothing in common.  Shows a complete ignorance to the facts.

"an ice storm knocked out power to 1.3 million customers from the Plains to the East Coast."
 
In the past please tell me on one occassion where FEMA has been sent out from the plains to the east coast to combat a snow or an ice storm....Lets just make it one town...No need to spread it out over much of the country.

If this is Obama's Katrina then he has done very well. But since you two Pixies have determined that this is "Obama's Katrina"...Then there must be another time when FEMA was sent out across the country to help our fellow Americans battle a snow and ice storm...Maybe there was. I didn't google it...Just can't seem to recall it ever happening in the past.

But that means little to the two people who posted above; They are not the type who care about facts or the truth..They will make up any type of shit to further their damaged sense of political pride.

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ORIGINAL: corysub
And please, Mr. President, show some respect for the Office and put on a suit jacket...your no longer a street community activist...this is the real deal!

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ORIGINAL: domiguy

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ORIGINAL: corysub

George Bush is not guilty of "mistakes" as much as the fact that he does not possess the oratory skills of Obama.  
             http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/business/general_business/public_support_for_economic_recovery_plan_slips_to_42

This is when I know that someone is so entrenched into their political bias that they are incapable of  free thought.

If you think that GW's problem biggest was that he was incapable of  articulation you are truly lost. If his decision making was so sound then he wouldn't have been forced to defend damn near every poor choice that he made.  

I know some Fox loving, gun toting Republicans that would say that "you don't get it."  Republicans were distancing themselves in record number from the Prez, and it was not because he is a poor public speaker.

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ORIGINAL: MasterShake69

Now if these events occurred a month ago the press would be blaming bush. Since Obama is president not one word in the press about it.  If Katrina occurred under Obama the press would suppress any criticism  just like they did with Bill Clinton during flood of the century .

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/winter_storm_outages

MARION, Ky. – In some parts of rural Kentucky, they're getting water the old-fashioned way — with pails from a creek. There's not room for one more sleeping bag on the shelter floor. The creative are flushing their toilets with melted snow.

At least 42 people have died, including 11 in Kentucky, and conditions are worsening in many places days after an ice storm knocked out power to 1.3 million customers from the Plains to the East Coast. About a million people were still without electric Friday, and with no hope that the lights will come back on soon, small communities are frantically struggling to help their residents.

One county put it bluntly: It can't.
"We're asking people to pack a suitcase and head south and find a motel if they have the means, because we can't service everybody in our shelter," said Crittenden County Judge-Executive Fred Brown, who oversees about 9,000 people, many of whom are sleeping in the town's elementary school.

Local officials were growing angry with what they said was a lack of help from the state and the Federal Emergency Management Agency. In Grayson County, about 80 miles southwest of Louisville, Emergency Management Director Randell Smith said the 25 National Guardsmen who have responded have no chain saws to clear fallen trees.

"We've got people out in some areas we haven't even visited yet," Smith said. "We don't even know that they're alive."

Smith said FEMA has been a no-show so far.

"I'm not saying we can't handle it; we'll handle it," Smith said. "But it would have made life a lot easier" if FEMA had reached the county sooner, he said.

FEMA spokeswoman Mary Hudak said some FEMA personnel already are in Kentucky working in the state's emergency operations center and that more will be arriving in coming days. Hudak said FEMA also has shipped to 50 to 100 generators to the state to supply electricity to facilities like hospitals, nursing homes, and water treatment plants.

Hudak said travel is still dangerous in some areas and communications are limited.

"We have plenty of folks ready to go, but there are some limitations with roads closed and icy conditions," she said.

From Missouri to Ohio, thousands were bunked down in shelters, waiting for the power to return. Others are trying to tough out the power outage at home, using any means they can to get basics like drinking water, heat and food.

Lori Clarke was stuck at home in the western Kentucky town of Marion with trees blocking the road out. She trudged more than half a mile through snow and ice carrying 5-gallon buckets to bring drinking water for her horses and dogs and to flush her toilet.

"When you live out in the country, you just shift into survival mode," she said.

Even for those who wanted to leave, it wasn't possible. The one gas station in Marion that was up and running was able to supply gasoline to emergency vehicles only until another delivery of gasoline arrived Friday. Only half of that gas was made available to the public, and there was a $10 limit.

Linda Young, who is staying the town's shelter, said her car only had enough gas in it to get around Marion. Even if she had gas, there was nowhere to go — all of her relatives in other parts of Kentucky also were hit by the ice storm.

"For right now, this is the best we can do, so this is where we're at," said Young, as she sat on a mattress with her 9-year-old son and 11-year-old daughter.

By midafternoon water service had been restored to the city of Marion thanks to a generator, while efforts continued to restore service to the outlying county, Police Chief Ray O'Neal said. Residents were being told to boil the water before drinking it.

Meanwhile, the death toll was rising: Since the storm began Monday, the weather is suspected in at least 11 deaths in Kentucky, nine more in Arkansas, six each in Texas and Missouri, three in Virginia, two each in Oklahoma, Indiana and West Virginia and one in Ohio, with most of them blamed on hypothermia, traffic accidents and carbon monoxide poisoning from generators.

Among the latest deaths reported were those of a man in his 60s, a woman in her 50s and a woman in her 40s who were found in a southwestern Louisville home Friday. The younger woman was found in bed; the other two were found in the garage, along with a generator, police spokesman Phil Russell said.

The fight to return power to Kentucky and other areas affected by the ice storm is difficult because of the sheer number of outages, but also because of the ice itself. Crews have joined the effort from around the country, but more than a half-million homes and businesses were still out in Kentucky on Friday, along with roughly 78,000 in Missouri and 284,000 in Arkansas. Thousands more were still in the dark in Ohio, Tennessee and West Virginia.

"As ice is melting, power lines and tree limbs are springing upward and hitting other power lines," said Rita Alexander, spokeswoman for Gibson Electric Membership Corp. in Tennessee. "It is just an unpleasant part of the process."

While generators were able to bring some water pumping stations back to life Friday, thousands still didn't have access to running water, and thousands more were under boil advisories. Roughly 200,000 people across Kentucky still don't have water. In Hayti, Mo., alderwoman Lisa Green said a temporary generator was in use to run the water plant, and power was being moved around to pump wastewater through the sewage system, she said.

That wasn't enough. "Our water plant is up and running, but people are inundating it," Green said. The community has received some bottled water, she said, but needs more.

A precious few had enough supplies to tough it out alone. Stephen Cates said his home was being warmed by kerosene heaters and an electric furnace powered by a generator that he waited 4 1/2 hours in line to purchase in Evansville, Ind.

He was flushing his toilet with melted snow, and could even watch TV.

"I'm living just like I have electricity, just about, eating hot food," Cates said.

___

Contributing to this report were Associated Press writers Roger Alford in Leitchfield, Ky., Dylan T. Lovan, Rebecca Yonker, Brett Barrouquere and Janet Cappiello Blake in Louisville, Ky., Betsy Taylor in St. Louis and Randall Dickerson in Nashville, Tenn

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Welcome back domiguy. Believe it or not, I really missed your witty posts.

You got a certain class, even when you're talking the kind of low unclassy shit that only someone like you can master. 

Still though - Obama was partying while Americans were suffering and dying. Had that been Bush, the press wouldn't have reported things nearly the same - and all the words in the world can't change the obvious facts.

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ORIGINAL: domiguy

I love it when people are unable to successfully distinguish between two events that have virtually nothing in common.  Shows a complete ignorance to the facts.

"an ice storm knocked out power to 1.3 million customers from the Plains to the East Coast."
 
In the past please tell me on one occassion where FEMA has been sent out from the plains to the east coast to combat a snow or an ice storm....Lets just make it one town...No need to spread it out over much of the country.

If this is Obama's Katrina then he has done very well. But since you two Pixies have determined that this is "Obama's Katrina"...Then there must be another time when FEMA was sent out across the country to help our fellow Americans battle a snow and ice storm...Maybe there was. I didn't google it...Just can't seem to recall it ever happening in the past.

But that means little to the two people who posted above; They are not the type who care about facts or the truth..They will make up any type of shit to further their damaged sense of political pride.