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Another Obama nominee Tax Evader bites the dust... - 2/3/2009 7:05:35 AM

corysub

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The Obama Administration is a gift that never stops giving! Now the Presidents nominee for head of the Office of Management and Budget may withdraw due to "tax problems"...Jesus..don't any of these democrats who love to raise taxes for the working man pay THEIR taxes!!????

Geithner, Daschle, Killfeer.....who is next?? Could you imagine if Cheney had not paid even $10,000 in taxes due....Chris Matthews, Olbmernann and Maddow would want his balls cut off.
Trent Lott was forced out of office for a joke at a party...and these criminals are being chosen to lead the country towards "change"..WTF....

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RE: Another Obama nominee Tax Evader bites the dust... - 2/3/2009 7:07:41 AM

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The issues you raise have nothing to do with party affiliation. In most of the posts I have read, replace Democrat or Republican with the word politician and it is closer to the truth.

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RE: Another Obama nominee Tax Evader bites the dust... - 2/3/2009 7:11:33 AM

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Dosen`t evasion, imply criminal intent?

Such extremism from the right.....wow,that`s new.....

At least bush critics waiting for a criminal charge,before charging a crime.

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Ok ok ok,I got it ,the response,the perfect responce.....

"b/c the case is under investigation,we will withhold comment in order to not interfere with an on-going investigation"......

Orion,

Perhaps you can roll out one of the many and numerous outraged comments you made when bush gave that same answer like 50 times ,.....and use it here.

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RE: Another Obama nominee Tax Evader bites the dust... - 2/3/2009 7:15:24 AM

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These people are all insiders and KNOW where the funds go.
Would you pay in that case?

Apparently you need REAL REAL dark rose colored glasses to view this as uniquely Republican; or Democratic for that matter.

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RE: Another Obama nominee Tax Evader bites the dust... - 2/3/2009 7:22:09 AM

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What`s it like being fault and mistake free,Merc?

We all want to know.....

Is it lonely up there?

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RE: Another Obama nominee Tax Evader bites the dust... - 2/3/2009 7:22:30 AM

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Wanna see me start liking Obama ? Get him on the TV saying -

"OK people, we're now taking applications. One thing, if you want to come to Washington and live off other people's taxes you must pay your's, kapeesh ? I wll hire someone to go through all your resumes, that is IF I can find anyone who pays their damn taxes !".

Straight talk like that I would appreciate. However I am not holding my breath in wait.

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RE: Another Obama nominee Tax Evader bites the dust... - 2/3/2009 7:24:06 AM

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The issues you raise have nothing to do with party affiliation. In most of the posts I have read, replace Democrat or Republican with the word politician and it is closer to the truth.

Excuse me, but these "issues" as you call them DO have a great deal to do with party. These are people chosen by President Obama to represent HIS administration. If they were just your normal run of the mill tax cheats than you might have a point. It makes some of us wonder about the creditablilty of this most liberal man in the Senate who is now chosing "the best among us" to lead us into "change"....and exactly what this "change" is going to look like.

I guess we have to get used to hearing words like "honest mistake", "error in judgement", "inadvertent", "distraction" "yea, they cheated on taxes but we need him/her in these difficult times"!
I think the inventive people on the White House staff should put together a "glossory of terms" to describe the character weakness of their nominees in a positive vein.

By the way, that's the staff that told the media that when our new Commander In Chief met with General Petraeus, the General was told clearly who the boss is..and that he is no Bush!...Could you believe they actually belittle one of the greatest Generals in our service today! More to come on this one...you betcha!

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RE: Another Obama nominee Tax Evader bites the dust... - 2/3/2009 7:26:58 AM

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psst.

He was being facetious....I think.

<whispers>

You`re on the same side.

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RE: Another Obama nominee Tax Evader bites the dust... - 2/3/2009 7:31:30 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner59

Dosen`t evasion, imply criminal intent?

Such extremism from the right.....wow,that`s new.....

At least bush critics waiting for a criminal charge,before charging a crime.

~~~~~~~~

Ok ok ok,I got it ,the response,the perfect responce.....

"b/c the case is under investigation,we will withhold comment in order to not interfere with an on-going investigation"......

Orion,

Perhaps you can roll out one of the many and numerous outraged comments you made when bush gave that same answer like 50 times ,.....and use it here.

You guys on the left are hysterical! The democrats waiting for proof before charging a crime? Guess you haven't read anything from John Conyers, Barney Frank, and dozens of others. And by the way...the democrats in Illinois just impeached a Governor who has not been charged with anything!... Is this the future we are going to see..the "change" people voted for? I think it is...but they didn't know they were voting for it..

Lets hear more excuses from the left on the people Obama is nominating who don't pay taxes, or come up with a stimulus package like Pelosi that give hundreds of millions for condoms, movie producers, schools that provide no assurance for jobs as in the broadband amendment, and on and on... Lets hear more excuses for the $800 billion...the $Trillian....the multi-$trillion expansion in government waste and the destruction of the U.S. balance sheet we are witnessing. Does anyone really believe that the "shovel ready" spending is not going to multiply like bacteria in a cesspool!??

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RE: Another Obama nominee Tax Evader bites the dust... - 2/3/2009 7:37:12 AM

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Did you not know that paying taxes is for sucker. They have the little people pay taxes. People who make $100,000.00 or more do not pay hefty taxes. Which I feel they should pay more taxes than the person who makes $50,000.00 per year.

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RE: Another Obama nominee Tax Evader bites the dust... - 2/3/2009 7:37:35 AM

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Obama is absorbing too many past Clinton-ite hacks to run the government on his watch and is predicably derailing. He is acting eerily similar to Bill Clinton in his first term, relying upon the institutional hacks in government for the first few years. He needs to grab the reigns now.

I agree stimulus is needed, but too much of the current package is spending directed towards government buildings and government bureaucracy (new compters for most agencies and the like). Its like the Clinton-ites are already using their power to reinforce their stay for the next 8 years, just like the Bush-ites did.

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RE: Another Obama nominee Tax Evader bites the dust... - 2/3/2009 7:38:53 AM

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ORIGINAL: Owner59

What`s it like being fault and mistake free,Merc?

We all want to know.....

Is it lonely up there?

Fault free? No.
However, it's not lonely because I tend to hang around people with integrity who, even in conflicting opinion, don't excuse obvious hypocrisy. Not that difficult a dynamic to understand if you want to try it.

However, when I run for President and get elected on the 'Clean up Washington' platform; feel free to subject my hypocrisy. You obviously can't bring yourself to do that with President Obama. It makes anything promised doubtful and it exposes the people who screamed at the possibility of some scandal in the President Bush administration for what they are - agenda based with no motivation or requirement of actually making any significant change.

Today we apparently have tax evader #3 President Obama evaluated as important to him and his agenda. Can we really be surprised? His current decisions about who is in his inner circle are really no different than his decisions prior to becoming 'candidate Obama', a Pastor, a real estate friend, his State governor. The only thing occurring now, is those decisions are public. There conflict with his rhetoric can no longer be hidden or excused.

Two weeks in office today. WOW - I didn't think he could accomplish so much in so short a time.

Meanwhile...

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During almost two years on the campaign trail, Barack Obama vowed to slay the demons of Washington, bar lobbyists from his administration and usher in what he would later call in his Inaugural Address a "new era of responsibility." What he did not talk much about were the asterisks.

The exceptions that went unmentioned now include a pair of cabinet nominees who did not pay all of their taxes. Then there is the lobbyist for a military contractor who is now slated to become the No. 2 official in the Pentagon. And there are the others brought into government from the influence industry even if not formally registered as lobbyists.

The exceptions that went unmentioned now include a pair of cabinet nominees who did not pay all of their taxes. Then there is the lobbyist for a military contractor who is now slated to become the No. 2 official in the Pentagon. And there are the others brought into government from the influence industry even if not formally registered as lobbyists.

But the episode has already shown how, when faced with the perennial clash between campaign rhetoric and Washington reality, Obama has proved willing to compromise.
Source: http://www.iht.com/articles/2009/02/03/america/03lobby.php

Shouldn't, at least the call to arms be amended?

'SAME!'

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RE: Another Obama nominee Tax Evader bites the dust... - 2/3/2009 7:42:21 AM

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ORIGINAL: corysub

Lets hear more excuses from the left on the people Obama is nominating who don't pay taxes, or come up with a stimulus package like Pelosi that give hundreds of millions for condoms, movie producers, schools that provide no assurance for jobs as in the broadband amendment, and on and on... Lets hear more excuses for the $800 billion...the $Trillian....the multi-$trillion expansion in government waste and the destruction of the U.S. balance sheet we are witnessing. Does anyone really believe that the "shovel ready" spending is not going to multiply like bacteria in a cesspool!??

I dont think the right should be alleging government waste and budget destruction just yet. This is Obama's first trillion. When it gets to be 5 trillion (in line with Bush deficit expansion), then you have a platform to stand and argue on.

The right has no stand to have a beef with government money buying condoms. The right used government money to buy bibles. No difference.

I tell ya, you blind Rush wannabes are just as bad as the blind Clinton followers. You all need to grow up, as the problem requires an ADULT fix..

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RE: Another Obama nominee Tax Evader bites the dust... - 2/3/2009 7:43:03 AM

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Obviously, corysub, you don't watch Olberman or Maddow, or you'd know that, although their politics lean leftward, they skewer deserving Democrats as well as Republicans. The right-wing talk jocks Hannity, O'Reilly and Limbaugh are TOTALLY one-sided. They completely ignore even the most egregious wrongdoing by Republicans, and if there aren't any real issues to attack Democrats on, they make some up.

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RE: Another Obama nominee Tax Evader bites the dust... - 2/3/2009 7:46:21 AM

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ORIGINAL: OrionTheWolf

The issues you raise have nothing to do with party affiliation. In most of the posts I have read, replace Democrat or Republican with the word politician and it is closer to the truth.

WOW talk about bias,
how many people did W nominate to serve that had tax issues?
how many of them did get accepted?

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RE: Another Obama nominee Tax Evader bites the dust... - 2/3/2009 7:50:47 AM

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Psst,he was using sarcasm.....

Ask anyone,they`ll say everyone should pay their taxes.No one likes a cheat.

But cheating with the intent to steal or evade is way different than making a mistake.

Heard an IRS rep on the radio yesterday say that you get like a dozen chances to make good before the ax drops or charges are filed.You really have to be trying,to get a criminal charge filed against you.

They just want the money.He kept saying we don`t want to harm people or put them in jail.But he did say they`ll charge penalties and interests and would make almost any arrangement in good faith to pay the money.

I`m amused at the lather dripping from conservatives over a mistake.Going from what millions of Americans do,mistakes,..and taking that to making a charge that someone is evading.

Seems a little extreme.

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RE: Another Obama nominee Tax Evader bites the dust... - 2/3/2009 7:53:45 AM

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And to you cory , you have forgot to mention Charlie Rangle
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122143394599834065.html?mod=opinion_main_review_and_outlooks

How bout Al Frankin.

The nature of taxes, arcane and complicated, makes a short, persuasive explanation a challenge, says political scientist Steven Schier of Carleton College, meaning doubts could linger. And Franken's tax troubles fit that bill. Among other problems, he just acknowledged paying $70,000 in back taxes and penalties to 17 states where he spoke or made appearances from 2003 to 2006; he blamed his accountant for incorrectly distributing the taxes to states where he lived, New York and Minnesota.
http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/politics/2008/05/16/al-frankens-minnesota-senate-campaign-is-no-joke-.html?PageNr=1

And you are correct , Obama the gift that just keeps on giving!

I sure hope that one day Americans will wake up and ask team barry, why is it you have not held yourself to the standards you set during the campaign? " you wont find a lobbiest in my white house" well I guess he is right , we wont find one but 17 of them.
Keep up the good fight there cory. one day you will get some one to wake up and ask WHY!

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RE: Another Obama nominee Tax Evader bites the dust... - 2/3/2009 7:57:56 AM

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Obviously, corysub, you don't watch Olberman or Maddow, or you'd know that, although their politics lean leftward, they skewer deserving Democrats as well as Republicans. The right-wing talk jocks Hannity, O'Reilly and Limbaugh are TOTALLY one-sided. They completely ignore even the most egregious wrongdoing by Republicans, and if there aren't any real issues to attack Democrats on, they make some up.

Actually you are right...in comment not politics, of course.

I don't watch Olbermann much. I think he is on the same time slot as 2 1/2 men re-runs which is more fun than a nutcase throwing paper at his camera. As far as O'Reilly, Hannity and Rush, I think those guys obviously are to the right in philosophy, and Hannity is not a republican but a conservative. However, I hear them also "skewer" republicans from time to time...and they were really hard on McCain when he got into bed with Kennedy on immigration, for example. They really said some tough things about George Bush and his weak immigration stand and his lack of using the Presidential veto on numerous out of control spending legislation...proposed by both parties. They had a tremendous impact on the final scuttling of the Reid led McCain-Kennedy Amnesty Bill.

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RE: Another Obama nominee Tax Evader bites the dust... - 2/3/2009 8:00:18 AM

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ORIGINAL: Coldwarrior57

And to you cory , you have forgot to mention Charlie Rangle
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122143394599834065.html?mod=opinion_main_review_and_outlooks

How bout Al Frankin.

The nature of taxes, arcane and complicated, makes a short, persuasive explanation a challenge, says political scientist Steven Schier of Carleton College, meaning doubts could linger. And Franken's tax troubles fit that bill. Among other problems, he just acknowledged paying $70,000 in back taxes and penalties to 17 states where he spoke or made appearances from 2003 to 2006; he blamed his accountant for incorrectly distributing the taxes to states where he lived, New York and Minnesota.
http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/politics/2008/05/16/al-frankens-minnesota-senate-campaign-is-no-joke-.html?PageNr=1

And you are correct , Obama the gift that just keeps on giving!

I sure hope that one day Americans will wake up and ask team barry, why is it you have not held yourself to the standards you set during the campaign? " you wont find a lobbiest in my white house" well I guess he is right , we wont find one but 17 of them.
Keep up the good fight there cory. one day you will get some one to wake up and ask WHY!

Damn..you are so right. Forgot about Wrangle and Franken et al. Have to get more memory for my puter....can't store all the data on tax evading democrats and my memory is clouded by a couple of sips of wine some nights.

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RE: Another Obama nominee Tax Evader bites the dust... - 2/3/2009 8:03:35 AM

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ORIGINAL: Coldwarrior57

I sure hope that one day Americans will wake up and ask team barry, why is it you have not held yourself to the standards you set during the campaign? " you wont find a lobbiest in my white house" well I guess he is right , we wont find one but 17 of them.
Keep up the good fight there cory. one day you will get some one to wake up and ask WHY!

The Bush tax cuts on cap gains combined with no regs that created the speculation bubble has resulted in Americans are losing their jobs, losing their retirement, losing their house. You think they give a crap about this juvenile bullshit?

Grow up, CW.

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