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RE: How come Hannity doesn't get fired? - 2/5/2009 12:24:54 AM   
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-corn/novak-vs-armitage-was-t_b_29400.html



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Crime?

What crime?

Time wounds all heals.

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RE: How come Hannity doesn't get fired? - 2/5/2009 7:46:02 AM   
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According to the Koran he is a muslim.  Now, what you have to decide is he with us or against us? 
I think Obama is not a muslim, but I think he is in love with himself..."Look at Me!  I am great!"
Then you get idiots like Katie Couric who thinks he is the greatest American(?) ever born, promoting him to the American people as a Mesiah...

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RE: How come Hannity doesn't get fired? - 2/5/2009 7:54:54 AM   
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According to the Koran he is a muslim.  Now, what you have to decide is he with us or against us? 
I think Obama is not a muslim, but I think he is in love with himself..."Look at Me!  I am great!"
Then you get idiots like Katie Couric who thinks he is the greatest American(?) ever born, promoting him to the American people as a Mesiah...

According to the Book of Mormon we're all mormons. Does that make us all mormons?

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RE: How come Hannity doesn't get fired? - 2/5/2009 8:39:38 AM   
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quote:

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-corn/novak-vs-armitage-was-t_b_29400.html



quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner59

Crime?

What crime?

Time wounds all heals.



You got me wrong mate.

I`m all for re-opening the investigation into Plamegate.

Only this time with a real Justice Dept. headed be real LEOs.

I would like them all put under oath and deposed.No more of this no-oath bull crap by bush/cheney and co.If "scooter" was in jail for life,he might sing to get a better deal,then that guy gets squeezed until other criminal pops out of his ass,then he`s squeezed and then again till the whole nest of traitors are found.

No pardons from reality and the truth.No nixonian exemptions from treason.No escaping punishment for their treachery.



We`re fighting a global war on terror and these bushies purposely leaked the identity of one of our agents in the field fighting that war!Her job was specifically,WMD intel.Ironic.

There is no excuse for this and at one time,republicans would have been the 1st to call for the heads of anyone involved,democrat or republican,liberal or conservative.

Now we have neo-conservatives in charge of the GOP.Anyone who wants to differentiate conservatives from neo-conservatives,this is it.





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RE: How come Hannity doesn't get fired? - 2/5/2009 8:49:53 AM   
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All scooter did was confirm the info that Novac already had from Novacs original source.  Why wasn't the anti Iraq war guy put into Jail?  Ideology???
Now where is there going to an investigation into who leaked the story about the secret wiretaps???
Or the secret cia prisons in Europe??



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ORIGINAL: Owner59

quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterShake69

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-corn/novak-vs-armitage-was-t_b_29400.html



quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner59

Crime?

What crime?

Time wounds all heals.



You got me wrong mate.

I`m all for re-opening the investigation into Plamegate.

Only this time with a real Justice Dept. headed be real LEOs.

I would like them all put under oath and deposed.No more of this no-oath bull crap by bush/cheney and co.If "scooter" was in jail for life,he might sing to get a better deal,then that guy gets squeezed until other criminal pops out of his ass,then he`s squeezed and then again till the whole nest of traitors are found.

No pardons from reality and the truth.No nixonian exemptions from treason.No escaping punishment for their treachery.



We`re fighting a global war on terror and these bushies purposely leaked the identity of one of our agents in the field fighting that war!Her job was specifically,WMD intel.Ironic.

There is no excuse for this and at one time,republicans would have been the 1st to call for the heads of anyone involved,democrat or republican,liberal or conservative.

Now we have neo-conservatives in charge of the GOP.Anyone who wants to differentiate conservatives from neo-conservatives,this is it.





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RE: How come Hannity doesn't get fired? - 2/5/2009 8:58:29 AM   
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So going by the logic that some used against me in response to my Obama comments.  That would make me a Mormon too...lol

After I said Muslims consider him to be a Muslim (providing a hard news source not a propaganda one) but I didn't think he was a Muslim or a Christian.  Then somehow to some here it became I was calling him a Muslim...lol

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According to the Koran he is a muslim.  Now, what you have to decide is he with us or against us? 
I think Obama is not a muslim, but I think he is in love with himself..."Look at Me!  I am great!"
Then you get idiots like Katie Couric who thinks he is the greatest American(?) ever born, promoting him to the American people as a Mesiah...

According to the Book of Mormon we're all mormons. Does that make us all mormons?

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RE: How come Hannity doesn't get fired? - 2/5/2009 9:31:07 AM   
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Satellites have a very definite limit in their bandwidth and weather will always be an issue with an 18- or 36-inch dish.  Not to mention the whole inter-active aspect of cable which simply does not exist in the satellite world.




1080p via cable is dependant upon locale. Some companies have the bandwidth to delver that, others do not.

Oh, and btw, dish is interactive also. I have it.

When it comes to upgrades, its easier and cheaper to upgrade a receiver and a satellite than it is to bury more fiber and upgrade pipes into all our houses.  Thats just common sense. There was a reason original TV came via the airwaves instead of a wire.  It has a cost advantage.  Cable lacked that cost advantage, but they successfully made inroads on channel variety, but that advantage is no more.  Now, burying new fiber everytime there is a technology advance has become an albatross cost, and is something the competition does not have.



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RE: How come Hannity doesn't get fired? - 2/5/2009 5:09:14 PM   
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...legally there is no burden on US broadcasters to tell the truth, it's a different regime to the one you're used to. Coming from Belfast, as you do, you're very aware of how religious differences can be whipped up into very real violence. The US haven't had that experience. That concept isn't really in their mass consciousness.
Whether or not one defines Hannity as irresponsible, his words are covered by the US laws regarding free speech. There is no legal burden on people there to speak responsibly. 


This is very true.  Hannity's hateful rhetoric reminds me of Ian Paisley's back in the day which did lead to attacks against Catholics.

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RE: How come Hannity doesn't get fired? - 2/5/2009 5:11:48 PM   
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MasterShake69, I've actually talked to a Muslim who has said the idea that if your 'father is a Muslim, then you are Muslim' isn't true.  You have to accept the religion openly, basically.  How many Muslims have you talked to about the subject?

You haven't responded to most people here that actually use logic, reason, and fact to refute your silly comments throughout this thread.

< Message edited by KaineD -- 2/5/2009 5:19:20 PM >

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RE: How come Hannity doesn't get fired? - 2/5/2009 7:59:07 PM   
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I know this might be a bit hard but take a look at the original post of mine about the subject.  It had a sited source not just somebody who claims to be a Muslim.    Unlike you talking to a random Muslim with the belief that all Muslims are experts about their religion ;)

If you disagree, then an unbiased information source should be presented in response.

With virtually ever post I make I site an unbiased web site to prove my point.  Some times I even use a leftwing web site just to infuriate some here.



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MasterShake69, I've actually talked to a Muslim who has said the idea that if your 'father is a Muslim, then you are Muslim' isn't true.  You have to accept the religion openly, basically.  How many Muslims have you talked to about the subject?

You haven't responded to most people here that actually use logic, reason, and fact to refute your silly comments throughout this thread.

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RE: How come Hannity doesn't get fired? - 2/5/2009 8:11:46 PM   
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heres another source
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/12/opinion/12luttwak.html?_r=1&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss&pagewanted=all

As the son of the Muslim father, Senator Obama was born a Muslim under Muslim law as it is universally understood. It makes no difference that, as Senator Obama has written, his father said he renounced his religion. Likewise, under Muslim law based on the Koran his mother’s Christian background is irrelevant. Of course, as most Americans understand it, Senator Obama is not a Muslim. He chose to become a Christian, and indeed has written convincingly to explain how he arrived at his choice and how important his Christian faith is to him. His conversion, however, was a crime in Muslim eyes; it is “irtidad” or “ridda,” usually translated from the Arabic as “apostasy,” but with connotations of rebellion and treason. Indeed, it is the worst of all crimes that a Muslim can commit, worse than murder (which the victim’s family may choose to forgive). With few exceptions, the jurists of all Sunni and Shiite schools prescribe execution for all adults who leave the faith not under duress; the recommended punishment is beheading at the hands of a cleric, although in recent years there have been both stonings and hangings. (Some may point to cases in which lesser punishments were ordered — as with some Egyptian intellectuals who have been punished for writings that were construed as apostasy — but those were really instances of supposed heresy, not explicitly declared apostasy as in Senator Obama’s case.) It is true that the criminal codes in most Muslim countries do not mandate execution for apostasy (although a law doing exactly that is pending before Iran’s Parliament and in two Malaysian states). But as a practical matter, in very few Islamic countries do the governments have sufficient authority to resist demands for the punishment of apostates at the hands of religious authorities. For example, in Iran in 1994 the intervention of Pope John Paul II and others won a Christian convert a last-minute reprieve, but the man was abducted and killed shortly after his release. Likewise, in 2006 in Afghanistan, a Christian convert had to be declared insane to prevent his execution, and he was still forced to flee to Italy.Because no government is likely to allow the prosecution of a President Obama — not even those of Iran and Saudi Arabia, the only two countries where Islamic religious courts dominate over secular law — another provision of Muslim law is perhaps more relevant: it prohibits punishment for any Muslim who kills any apostate, and effectively prohibits interference with such a killing.At the very least, that would complicate the security planning of state visits by President Obama to Muslim countries, because the very act of protecting him would be sinful for Islamic security guards. More broadly, most citizens of the Islamic world would be horrified by the fact of Senator Obama’s conversion to Christianity once it became widely known — as it would, no doubt, should he win the White House. This would compromise the ability of governments in Muslim nations to cooperate with the United States in the fight against terrorism, as well as American efforts to export democracy and human rights abroad.

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RE: How come Hannity doesn't get fired? - 2/5/2009 8:17:49 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterShake69

All scooter did was confirm the info that Novac already had from Novacs original source.  Why wasn't the anti Iraq war guy put into Jail?  Ideology???
Now where is there going to an investigation into who leaked the story about the secret wiretaps???
Or the secret cia prisons in Europe??



quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner59

quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterShake69

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-corn/novak-vs-armitage-was-t_b_29400.html



quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner59

Crime?

What crime?

Time wounds all heals.



You got me wrong mate.

I`m all for re-opening the investigation into Plamegate.

Only this time with a real Justice Dept. headed be real LEOs.

I would like them all put under oath and deposed.No more of this no-oath bull crap by bush/cheney and co.If "scooter" was in jail for life,he might sing to get a better deal,then that guy gets squeezed until other criminal pops out of his ass,then he`s squeezed and then again till the whole nest of traitors are found.

No pardons from reality and the truth.No nixonian exemptions from treason.No escaping punishment for their treachery.



We`re fighting a global war on terror and these bushies purposely leaked the identity of one of our agents in the field fighting that war!Her job was specifically,WMD intel.Ironic.

There is no excuse for this and at one time,republicans would have been the 1st to call for the heads of anyone involved,democrat or republican,liberal or conservative.

Now we have neo-conservatives in charge of the GOP.Anyone who wants to differentiate conservatives from neo-conservatives,this is it.







Ummm...

TREASON ?!

bush spokesman Scotty McClellan confirmed that bush approved declassifying her ID and the cover of the fake front company she "worked" under ,Brewster Jennings.

It was at that point that McClellan decided to quit.

He manned up and did the right thing.

Hey bush apologists....

The white house committed treason.During a time of war.

No amount of prevarication is going to distract from the big stinking rotting corpse in the corner,called Plamegate.

TREASON !
 
on a lighter note

A tribute song to Valerie,if that`s her real name...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIu_iM8s1x8



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RE: How come Hannity doesn't get fired? - 2/5/2009 8:25:36 PM   
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It may be some other crime, but it is not treason:

"Section 3. Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court. The Congress shall have power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted. "

If being scum is a crime, then Bush and many in the admin are guilty, but treason is clearly spelled out in the Constitution.

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Ummm...

TREASON ?!

bush spokesman Scotty McClellan confirmed that bush approved declassifying her ID and the cover of the fake front company she "worked" under ,Brewster Jennings.

It was at that point that McClellan decided to quit.

He manned up and did the right thing.

Hey bush apologists....

The white house committed treason.During a time of war.

No amount of prevarication is going to distract from the big stinking rotting corpse in the corner,called Plamegate.

TREASON !
 
on a lighter note

A tribute song to Valerie,if that`s her real name...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIu_iM8s1x8




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RE: How come Hannity doesn't get fired? - 2/5/2009 8:32:30 PM   
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Treason!

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RE: How come Hannity doesn't get fired? - 2/5/2009 8:50:14 PM   
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Again all scooter did was confirm the info that Novac already had.
Also Scotty McClellan was forced out shortly after the argument with David Gregory regarding the shooting incident with dick cheney.  Thats how Tony Snow got the job and everyone knows scotty was a bit psised about that.

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1159347,00.html

the dust-up occurred in an off-camera White House press briefing about Dick Cheney's 2006 hunting accident:
"McClellan accused Gregory of grandstanding: ‘Hold on. Cameras aren't on right now. You can do this later.' That infuriated Gregory. ‘You don't have to yell,' McClellan said. Gregory shot back: ‘I will yell. If you want to use that podium and try to take shots at me personally, which I don't appreciate, then I will raise my voice, because that's wrong.' McClellan said: ‘Calm down, David.'"


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Scotty McClellan
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ORIGINAL: Owner59

quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterShake69

All scooter did was confirm the info that Novac already had from Novacs original source.  Why wasn't the anti Iraq war guy put into Jail?  Ideology???
Now where is there going to an investigation into who leaked the story about the secret wiretaps???
Or the secret cia prisons in Europe??



quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner59

quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterShake69

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-corn/novak-vs-armitage-was-t_b_29400.html



quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner59

Crime?

What crime?

Time wounds all heals.



You got me wrong mate.

I`m all for re-opening the investigation into Plamegate.

Only this time with a real Justice Dept. headed be real LEOs.

I would like them all put under oath and deposed.No more of this no-oath bull crap by bush/cheney and co.If "scooter" was in jail for life,he might sing to get a better deal,then that guy gets squeezed until other criminal pops out of his ass,then he`s squeezed and then again till the whole nest of traitors are found.

No pardons from reality and the truth.No nixonian exemptions from treason.No escaping punishment for their treachery.



We`re fighting a global war on terror and these bushies purposely leaked the identity of one of our agents in the field fighting that war!Her job was specifically,WMD intel.Ironic.

There is no excuse for this and at one time,republicans would have been the 1st to call for the heads of anyone involved,democrat or republican,liberal or conservative.

Now we have neo-conservatives in charge of the GOP.Anyone who wants to differentiate conservatives from neo-conservatives,this is it.







Ummm...

TREASON ?!

bush spokesman Scotty McClellan confirmed that bush approved declassifying her ID and the cover of the fake front company she "worked" under ,Brewster Jennings.

It was at that point that McClellan decided to quit.

He manned up and did the right thing.

Hey bush apologists....

The white house committed treason.During a time of war.

No amount of prevarication is going to distract from the big stinking rotting corpse in the corner,called Plamegate.

TREASON !
 
on a lighter note

A tribute song to Valerie,if that`s her real name...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIu_iM8s1x8



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RE: How come Hannity doesn't get fired? - 2/5/2009 8:54:06 PM   
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Treason...durring wartime....


while brave men and women are in the field,risking their lives and liberty.....for our security.


There`s no parcing this or calling a spade a club.A spade is a spade.

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RE: How come Hannity doesn't get fired? - 2/5/2009 9:23:01 PM   
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After Clinton serves jail time for Chinagate ;)

Remember the president can declassify anything he wants.

Also Valerie identity couldn't have been blown by the Whitehouse.  It was already blown a decade earlier during the Clinton administration.  You might want to look up Aldrich Ames.






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Treason!

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RE: How come Hannity doesn't get fired? - 2/5/2009 10:49:06 PM   
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Okay. Ignore the facts of the written law if you wish. So it is a war as you say, and Bush really did not have to relinquish his Presidency during wartime then. I tend to remember some comments about this not being an actual war from a few months back. So now for your convenience it is a war?


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ORIGINAL: Owner59

Treason...durring wartime....


while brave men and women are in the field,risking their lives and liberty.....for our security.


There`s no parcing this or calling a spade a club.A spade is a spade.


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