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RE: When you're a feminist in this lifestyle...(a rant ... - 2/4/2009 3:43:51 PM   
rednicky


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Well it's a rant tigress. It's how I feel. And no one who rants wants to hear how wrong they are. Just like I wouldn't go on a thread that I disagreed with and say 'why' I disagreed, I would expect others to follow that principle and leave threads they don't agree with or like alone. If someone had an abortion and vented in a thread about how they felt about it, it wouldn't be right to go to that thread and complain about how you hate abortion and say that people who abort are monsters. I suppose I expected the same logic to be applied here.


That's where you would be wrong. You see, this is a discussion forum. The way it works is one person creates a thread either asking a question, ranting and/or whining, or stating an opinion. THEN, other people have the audacity to read and want to give their opinion, ask a question, rant or whine. Yanno..........DISCUSS!!

Just as in the rest of life, there are no guarantees that everyone is going to agree. You don't like it you have one choice......don't participate. Simple really.




Nu uh Tigress. That's how the Mods keep order. If everyone was allowed to give their 2 cents (positive or negative) on everything and anything here, there would be chaos. If someone posts something that the OP would find deconstructive, the OP usually would remove in. Piggy backing on the example before, if someone had an abortion and was explaining how she felt and asking what to do about the way she felt, I'd never be allowed to say "how about you not abort babies." I'm sure that wouldn't be okay even is it my opinion and I wouldn't be free to discuss it on her thread either...unless I'm wrong and I misread the rules. Because if I could do that, then I have some posts to 'share my opinion' on. Whether people agree or not shouldn't matter. Whether it's appropriate to OP or not does.

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RE: When you're a feminist in this lifestyle...(a rant ... - 2/4/2009 3:48:14 PM   
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I'd never be allowed to say "how about you not abort babies.


Eeeerr...you CAN say that. There's no rule that says you can't. You can give your advice and opinion in any thread that you like as long as you aren't flaming someone....so go ahead, give your thoughts. You don't  have to agree with the OP to post.

If that were true I'd have never once at all ever posted here and I'd find this place to be one  helluva boring place.

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RE: When you're a feminist in this lifestyle...(a rant ... - 2/4/2009 3:48:17 PM   
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*blinks*

The mods keep order by removing items that break the Terms of Service and items that cross the line into extreme stupidity. Agreeing or not agreeing does not enter the picture.

I'm not sure what the moderation on the other boards you've visited are, but it's not all one big happy, medicated family here sometimes and sometimes that's okay.

It's what keeps this place interesting.


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RE: When you're a feminist in this lifestyle...(a rant ... - 2/4/2009 3:49:40 PM   
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Nicky, I suggest you do a little more reading. You are sorely uninformed.

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RE: When you're a feminist in this lifestyle...(a rant ... - 2/4/2009 3:57:01 PM   
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ORIGINAL: T1981

*blinks*

The mods keep order by removing items that break the Terms of Service and items that cross the line into extreme stupidity. Agreeing or not agreeing does not enter the picture.

I'm not sure what the moderation on the other boards you've visited are, but it's not all one big happy, medicated family here sometimes and sometimes that's okay.

It's what keeps this place interesting.



Totally agrees with you T1

At least I know that I am not medicated. This is a very interesting place to learn. Learning sometimes though imo is a hard pill to swallow. For me, if someone says something in a thread that really bothers me, I know I need to search within to see why?

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RE: When you're a feminist in this lifestyle...(a rant ... - 2/4/2009 3:57:09 PM   
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Bitterness is a choice.

YOU choose: your attitude, your friends, ...almost everything in life.
Then: Shit happens, and good stuff too.

If you start with you, be the higher form of what you've been so far.
Choose friends that draw you up, not drag you down and don't wear glasses that see people as a 'color'

Take a deap breath.

Now is the first moment of the rest of your life.
Your choice.

Now, back to the Humor forum as I have plenty to deal with in my own life and super hard choices to make here.....



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RE: When you're a feminist in this lifestyle...(a rant ... - 2/4/2009 4:00:04 PM   
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People are never always going to agree with you, life is tough in so many ways, stop making it more tough for yourself by looking outside for you validation. Yes, it is annoying to be asked for ID, happens to me a lot and people are rude about it asking if my ID is real, even when I have produced my passport, visa, UK and Californian driving licence, I am still doubted. Getting frustrated and stressed about it actually doesn't help the situation but winds you up instead, causing yourself unhappiness.

You need to validate yourself, be ok with yourself. Stop looking for reasons outside of yourself to blame for your situation. Everyone can do that and if everyone did nothing would get done. What you need to do is accept yourself and the situation you are in. Just accept, from that point on you can work to change things for the better. No, it is not easy but it can be done. You are black. So what? You are female. So what? Work with what you do have going for you and ignore people who try to prevent you walking the path you choose for yourself. What you also need to do is look at your attitude. You have come across as being extremely childish with a very large chip on your shoulder in most of your posts. It is not an attractive trait and could well be one of the reasons people think you are younger than you actually are.

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RE: When you're a feminist in this lifestyle...(a rant ... - 2/4/2009 4:01:37 PM   
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Ummm...one of the rules...

Criticism - Please keep criticism to a minimum. While disagreement is okay inflammatory comments aka flaming, humiliating and belittling other users is not acceptable.

I believe I was belittled/teased repeatedly for feeling the way I felt. It's pretty obvious. Not only was a teased but I was laughed at and judged. So if one doesn't agree or feels the need to lmao on a completely serious topic (whether or not it's a rant) it's not allowed.

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RE: When you're a feminist in this lifestyle...(a rant ... - 2/4/2009 4:05:21 PM   
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ORIGINAL: rednicky

Ummm...one of the rules...

Criticism - Please keep criticism to a minimum. While disagreement is okay inflammatory comments aka flaming, humiliating and belittling other users is not acceptable.

I believe I was belittled/teased repeatedly for feeling the way I felt. It's pretty obvious. Not only was a teased but I was laughed at and judged. So if one doesn't agree or feels the need to lmao on a completely serious topic (whether or not it's a rant) it's not allowed.


You may personally believe this but obviously the mods didn't otherwise they would have removed the comments.
As for what i said in the very first post after your opening one, i totally stand by it. You have not shown my judgement to be wrong one iota.

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RE: When you're a feminist in this lifestyle...(a rant ... - 2/4/2009 4:07:02 PM   
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Oh so now I have to prove I deserve to be treated politely and with sensitivity?

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RE: When you're a feminist in this lifestyle...(a rant ... - 2/4/2009 4:08:16 PM   
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You are doing it still. Nothing inflammatory or paticularly humiliating has been said. You are way over-sensitive. Seriously, for your own sake, don't ake everything to heart. I have seen much worse comments on these boards. 

Edited to add - you have to earn respect, it is not yours by right.

< Message edited by Sexycelticlady -- 2/4/2009 4:09:27 PM >

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RE: When you're a feminist in this lifestyle...(a rant ... - 2/4/2009 4:08:19 PM   
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Well now, the mods will remove what they feel is against the terms of service and deal with those they feel need modspanked. You haven't exactly been little miss sunshine yourself here. It's up to the mods, not you.

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RE: When you're a feminist in this lifestyle...(a rant ... - 2/4/2009 4:10:35 PM   
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Oh so now I have to prove I deserve to be treated politely and with sensitivity?


As a general rule of thumb i tend to find that the peeps here treat you the way you treat them.

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RE: When you're a feminist in this lifestyle...(a rant ... - 2/4/2009 4:13:26 PM   
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I was looking for a thread dealing with this and found one! But, unfortunately, it didn't really didn't provide me with the responses I was looking for. I'm a feminist (some form of one anyway), but I take it a step further than traditional feminists. Feminists are searching for equality. I want to get even. As in, instead of being equal with men, I want the role to be reversed. I want there to be a glass ceiling for men. I want women to be on top while men are treated as the weaker sex. It just makes me angry when I look back on history and see how people who are part of my demographic are treated. I am not only a woman but an African American woman. One can say, and I would not deny it, that I am bitter. Because I 'am' bitter. If I had it my way, a simple apology for slavery from the President simply wouldn't do. I'd want to enslave white people for about 200 years. Then I'd call it even. Of course, I know that feeling this way is wrong. Especially since I have never personally been a slave. But I'm not someone who is looking to be right. I'm looking for revenge. I'm sure this is ironic coming from a submissive woman who actually seeks (and perhaps has found) a white Dom. You'd think I'd be some sort of Dominatrix looking to make a white submissive male suffer. Honestly, something like that wouldn't be gratifying if the male submitted 'wanted' to be tortured.

I guess the only reason I am a daughter-type submissive is because I was made this way. Growing up, I was always treated as a child, even when I got to the point where I was no longer one. Because of the way I look, adults would underminr me even though I voted like they did, paid taxes like they did, and worked like they did (Soon I'll be able to drink like they do as well). But I'll always be treated like a 12 year old. Take today for example. I went to the deli like I do almost every day and I ordered an egg salad sandwich on potato bread with extra mayo. The woman refused to give me my extra mayo (which I order EVERY TIME I go there)! She didn't want me to 'kill over' (as she put it). Even though I insisted, she said no. And she said I'd have to put the mayo on my sandwich myself. She would not want to be responsible. Apparently, I was too young to be so unhealthy. First off, since when is it her place to tell what I should and should not eat? She's there to take my order. Not tell me what's best for me. I know that, had I been a grown woman who actually 'looked' like a grown woman, she wouldn't have said a thing. She might have shook her head, but she would have taken my goddamn order (sorry, a little pissed right now). But because I am petite, with a baby face and a baby voice, she did not take me seriously. Now I 'could' have gotten loud and demanded that I get what I ordered but causing a commotion is not how I handle stuff like this. Especially when the person is handling my food. I just silently vowed to myself not to let this woman prepare my food anymore. I'd just get in a different line next time.

I feel as though I am at the bottom of the totem pole. Not only am I a woman but I am a woman of color. And not only am I a woman of color but I'm a woman of color who looks like she should still be in middle school. People either treat me like a child or they dismiss me all together. I get carded just to see a rated R movie, while my friends (whom are younger than myself I might add) walk in with no trouble. And this causes me to have somewhat of an attitude issue (things could have gotten a whole lot worse at that deli). I just want to be treated as a normal woman. I want unquestioned respect without having to ask for it. I want to be treated like all the other women my age are treated. But I'm not. And it gets frustrating. I want to submit like a normal submissive woman but how can I when the people around me act like they're the bosses of me? Instead of 'choosing' to submit around people I want to submit to, I am forcefully dominated by the people around me and, only when I catch an attitude or get loud, do people treat me with the respect that is automatically given to everybody else. I don't want to be mean. But that seems to be what it takes in order to be treated like a goddamn adult. Since I can't get the respect I want in real life, I suppose I work with what God gave me by choosing to act as a child in this lifestyle. It's the only way I can be taken at least half-way seriously. Sure, I'd act like a child in this lifestyle, but the men would know ahead of time that I'm not. I'd get the best of both worlds. I'd be protected and spoiled as a child but recognized as a mentally stable adult with the capacity to make her own decisions. But this seems to only be limited to the 1 man I choose to dominate me (whom has gotten to know me). Never could I expect such treatment in real life. Because even if I do behave as an adult in real life and demand respect, people still look at me and say "Seriously, where's your mother?"

I remember I was at a Hallmark last year and the lady wouldn't let me make an expensive purchase because she thought I was 'too young' to have a credit card. It wasn't enough that I had my photo ON my credit card. I had to provide two more forms of I.D. Because even my driver's License wasn't enough. And when she saw that I actually was old enough, she had the nerve to drag her co-workers over so that they could look at me and gasp along with her. How dare she! How rude! And the bitch in me would have kicked in, too. But I was raised better than that and I simply smiled and asked if I could make my purchases.

I just cant help but wonder what it will really take for me to be taken seriously. Do I have to be a bitch all the time? Do I have to tape my Driver's License to my forehead? Why can't I be treated in ways that come naturally to everyone else? Why do things have to be so hard for me? Why do I have to rely on the internet to find a man because men in real life don't view me as a woman but as a kid? It seems like the only men who bother see me as a sexual being are pedophiles who really DO think I'm a child in which they can manipulate. Every time I go out with friends, the guys often wonder why one of my female friends brought along her 'little sister'. I'm angry and bitter and I want to get back at the world so badly. But then I know for a fact that I'd be alone from then on. Every time I am underestimated (which is everyday) I'd get defensive. Being polite about my circumstances doesn't seem to be enough to get respect in this world. No, I have to be rude and mean and bitchy in order for me to be taken seriously. And when I do act that way, no one wants to be bothered with me and I end up alone. And it's only going to get harder as I get older. When I'm ready to buy my first car, will a dealer even acknowledge me? What about when I want to buy a house or get a job? Sometimes I just wish I were normal. Profiling is a bitch. And it hurts so much that I can't help but cry. Because I just can't win...


There was nothing inflamitory here I am sure... Okay darlin... it's time to wake up and smell the coffee.  It's okay for you to be bitter... angry, want revenge, vent, talk about people who piss you off, justify the way you are while bashing others, use slavery for an excuse, get mad becasue you were born looking younger, use your color as a reason for all sorts of things, be unrealistic in how you view the world, think the world and this message board should go the way you think it should and then get mad when people respond to what you say, even when some were being understanding.

Look in the mirror.

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RE: When you're a feminist in this lifestyle...(a rant ... - 2/4/2009 4:13:38 PM   
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I've never even spoken to you before missturbation yet you still laughed at my serious post. What did I do to you to deserve such treatment?

I'm not over sensitive. The people here are just insensitive. I don't see why it's allowed in the first place. You can't act that way because it's rude. Or, at least, you shouldn't.

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RE: When you're a feminist in this lifestyle...(a rant ... - 2/4/2009 4:15:48 PM   
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Actually you are coming off as very oversensitive and are doing to others things you accuse them of doing to you.

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RE: When you're a feminist in this lifestyle...(a rant ... - 2/4/2009 4:15:54 PM   
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Rednicky
One thing you will find on these threads, the majority of people do not accept themselves as victims. Those who must see themselves as victims and need to push it tend to reach unsympathic ears. Again, You are focusing on what you are not getting and not looking at the whole picture. This has been your choice all the way through this thread. You have also posted other threads and received a lot of help. Maybe a good sense of gratitude would help you? I do not know. But what I see is someone waving a flag crying victim. Most of us here have issues and situations to deal with. Be wise and look at the whole not the poor -me- you are attacking me approach. Go back through this thread and 'see' how people have been trying to help you. This is not a few but the majority.

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RE: When you're a feminist in this lifestyle...(a rant ... - 2/4/2009 4:18:25 PM   
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You have a lot of bitter in there baby.
I am hispanic.  Which translates to American Natives who were copulating with Spaniards in order to further the Catholic ideology.  My people travelled in the area between Santa Barbara and a region of Mexico in the Baja area.  When Spain owned California people who populated there were Mexicans.  When the current govenment took over we became US citizens, but.. we were always Mexicans in their eyes.
I am tan.  I am educated.  I am middle class.  I work, I have a business, and I am a short woman who still looks young.  Growing up, I was not allowed to take secretarial classes because.. I was told I wouldn't be hired.  I got an art scholarship when I was a kid.. but growing up my art was often put aside before it even got to contests, lost until competitions were over.  I grew up in a white world with white friends.. who so kindly told me I was not "like those other wetbacks" 
Excuse me?  I was born here.  My people were born here.  And.. I can't swim.
LOL
Ok.. I am over 50 now.  That was life back then.  I learned to adapt.  I accepted no favors.  I succeeded without aid.  If I didn't have those barriers growing up I would not be the person I am now.  I would not have had to work harder.  I would not have had to learn to adapt and find other paths open to me. 
You are young.  Cherish it while you can.  Be young.  But bitter?  GET Over it!

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RE: When you're a feminist in this lifestyle...(a rant ... - 2/4/2009 4:21:33 PM   
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I am a 21 year old


Please take this as a compliment  ... Going by the posts you make, I never would have thought you were "just" 21.  


Thankyou very much

To the OP, look your OP was offensive, you can dress it up as a rant but it was offensive to well lots of people. Look who has been posting, is it men? No its women who are disagreeing with your view, and thats ok we dont have to all agree. The thing is that you cant expect to be treated with kid gloves, you havent warrented it. I suggest you read the boards, hell read some of your other messages, when you speak with respect then you get it you havent, you have taken everyone who disagrees with you as insulting you.

Im sorry to say this and I dont say it lightly but you need to grow up. You need to realise that you do actually reap what you sow. Its not an easy lesson to learn but when you do life will be so much easier.

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RE: When you're a feminist in this lifestyle...(a rant ... - 2/4/2009 4:25:05 PM   
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Why do I keep picturing a little girl sucking on a lollipop in a little frilly dress and pigtails who is stomping her feet and running off to tell mommy that the others are being mean to her again?

rednicky, maybe this site isn't for you since you seem to think that others are picking on you and really..that's something meant to be helpful for you, not inflammatory. I just think that some people may be better off trying other sites if they find this place or whatever other place, to be not cohesive to their personality.

Best of luck to you.

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