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RE: When you're a feminist in this lifestyle...(a rant ... - 2/4/2009 7:46:13 PM   
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I'm not sure where the deep resentment that you feel towards whites and men springs from, so I don't really feel like I can suggest anything in that area.  Maybe you were raised around those sentiments?  Whatever the case may be, if you feel that the level of resentment you feel is something that is negatively affecting your life, you should examine where it came from and examine a way to get it out of your system.  Maybe counseling could help in that area.

As far as the rest of it.  You said you feel like you are at the bottom of the totem pole.  If you feel that way, you will also act that way, and that in turn will cause people to treat you that way. It's not about your size or your look, it's about your behavior.  This is not to say that it's your "fault".  It's to say that you have control over it.   Example:  In the deli--She wouldn't put the mayo on your sandwich and you ultimately accepted that because you felt powerless in the situation.   You should have told her that if she didn't make it the way you wanted it, you wouldn't pay for it, and you would then speak to the manager.  THAT is how a confident adult would behave, not by just cowering down and accepting her bullshit.  Of course she should make it the way you asked for it and you shouldn't even have to go through the hassle of teaching her that she can't treat you that way.  But this isn't something exclusive to your life.  We all can give examples of similar situations when some type of service professional gave us a ration of shit.  Occasionally it happens. So you have to give them a little lesson.  But then that's it.  It's over.  You don't carry it with you to the next "deli" you walk into and expect to be treated poorly.

Here is the thing.  A few people have given you shit and because of that you have come to expect everyone every where to give you shit.  And when we expect people to give us shit, guess what?  They give us shit.  You get exactly what you expect to get.  And without realizing it, we actually behave in ways that cause other people to fulfill our expectations of them.  Try to become more conscious of your demeanor, and your reactions.  It's something that takes a while to learn, and it's something that, believe it or not, takes practice.   I'm 44 and it's something that I remind myself of every day, and I try to remain conscious of it as much as I can.  Don't imagine meeting misogenist men or white people who you feel are condescending to you out of pity.  Imagine drawing really cool men who appreciate you, and people of whatever skin color having the ability to enrich your life, and you theirs. 

As far as being carded.  Don't take that personally.  Yes, you're 20 yrs old, but you're in an "age range", and lots of 16 yr olds look 20 and vice versa.  Imagine yourself working behind the counter in a liquor store and having the responsibility of making sure you don't sell to a minor. Are you going to risk it if you're not sure?  Would you want that on your hands?  Would you think poorly of the person you were carding, or secretly see them as inferior because they're short, or black, or female?  No one is thinking that of you when they card you for a movie, or whatever else. That's something you've created in your own mind.  It's not shameful to look 16 or 18 when you're twenty, it's just a fact of life,  so why take that as some indication that you're being treated unfairly or looked upon like you are a child?  This isn't something to become resentful about.  Seriously, Let that whole thing go.  And just start focusing on what you want and how you want to be treated, and you'll start behaving accordingly and getting better results. 

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RE: When you're a feminist in this lifestyle...(a rant ... - 2/4/2009 10:13:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		You have some serious misconceptions of how other people are treated.  Next time you get worked up into a rant, you would do well to remember that. 

Everyone is judged based on what they look like.  Sometimes that means it sucks to be black and sometimes that means it sucks to be white.  Sometimes it means it sucks to be hot and sometimes it means it sucks to be ugly.  It depends on where you are at and who you are with. 

When I was traveling around South America, there were some places I couldn't go because I have blonde hair and blue eyes and I don't look like a troll.  I wanted to go to those places really really badly because they had the best salsa dancers in all of South America.  But I couldn't.  So there is a place on earth where white people are completely excluded.  If that helps you feel any better about that whole revenge part.

Sorry you're feeling so frustrated.  Just be thankful you aren't ugly. ;)


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RE: When you're a feminist in this lifestyle...(a rant ... - 2/4/2009 10:48:39 PM   
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My personal opinion is that contrary to popular propaganda across the media, how you look does matter. In fact it's almost (but not quite) all that matters.

Imagine a Halle Berry living in poverty? Would never happen unless a woman of her caliber in looks was mentally ill. Extraordinarily beautiful women don't live in poverty as adults. This is somewhat true of extraordinarily handsome men (they usually need to be tall also).



It's been my observation that extraordinarily beautiful women don't stay that way very long when they live in poverty. 

As to the OP...I'm 34 and still get carded on a semi-regular basis.  Even when I was younger it just never bothered me all that much.  Sure it's a hassle to always have to remember your ID but that's not exactly a pressing world problem.  Recently LuckyAlbatross referred to the luxury of middle class problems.  I think this might qualify as one.

Deli?  She sounds like an incompetent employee and, friendly with her or not, a manager should have been called over.  Ditto for Hallmark.

At the movies?  20 isn't all that far from 17...show the ID and be done with it. 

Bars?  Letting an under age person in can cause serious problems with liquor licenses (usually a fairly important thing to a bar) if the police show up for a surprise inspection so suck that one up.

Enslaving the white folk?  Interesting idea but good chance it isn't going to happen.  Personally, I wouldn't spend a lot time of this particular fantasy.

Feminist? Feminism is about the option of choices.  I hope you make wise ones.

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RE: When you're a feminist in this lifestyle...(a rant ... - 2/4/2009 11:14:52 PM   
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Well Nicky darling, I'm not a female, black, or young, but just this morning as I skateboarded down to the local
Biglots for a Yoo-hoo and a couple of Devil Dogs, a pair of local lasses breezed by on their unicycles. Just as
they passed, I heard one comment to the other, "Oh my God Marge, did you see that?" "What was that?"
"Quick, circle back around." "I've got to get a picture of that on my I-Phone." "Pedal faster Marge."

Sense and sensibility, what the world around you will lack, you must retain within yourself.

It will be alright Nicky. "Oh the sun will come out tomorrow, bet your bottom dollar that tomorrow they'll be sun."

Or you'll end up a homeless woman with scabs and lice, living in a box, unable to afford your anti-depressant medication.

Choices Nicky, make them. You do have a say in your destiny .

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RE: When you're a feminist in this lifestyle...(a rant ... - 2/4/2009 11:47:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		Dear Rednicky, I don't see where all this pain and hurt are coming from seriously.    I don't have better advice to give you, than the great ones you have received from other posters.

I do hope the universe never really gives you a serious kick in the ass, to show you that the only reason you are so preoccupied with being young looking, and not finding the right boyfriend yet (at all of 20), is because you're not ready, and besides, things might get serious, and you'd have to deal with real problems.  

I admit, I haven't read responses beyond the first page, but not having read anything about growing up hungry, or abused, I don't see the reason for "oh my god, why can't I be more like everybody else, and it hurts so much."    Start helping other people, and look for ways to make the world a better place with that obviously gifted mind of yous, instead of being so self obssessed, and bitter for no real good reason.    

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MadameMarque
First, let me say that you've mis-entitled this thread.  A feminist is just a person who believes that females are people.  Any female would be a self-diminishing fool not to be a feminist, and because we're raised in a deeply sexist culture, many of us are.  Don't go encouraging the misconception that anger, bitterness, and an appetite for vengeance are somehow the description of a feminist
I could not agree more.
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LaTigresse  
We teach others how to treat us. As much as you want to get angry and throw a tantrum, you will only be fueling the fire that you are raging at. But no, it will not get harder because no matter how youthful you look, you will age.

In time, your youthful looks will change. No sense in getting upset about it. Someday you will be looking in a mirror and seeing wrinkles, sagging parts and graying hair and may wish you could return to that youthful look.

All you can do is find a way to enjoy the moment, find the positives and focus on them. Live with joy. Otherwise the negative will grow because you will have focused on it. Look at yourself and find reason to love what you see. Two things will come of that. One, others will begin to see the same.
Great advice.    

P.S.   Go get some counseling, because you sound a little too blue.   M

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RE: When you're a feminist in this lifestyle...(a rant ... - 2/4/2009 11:53:54 PM   
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Do you see that you are trying to play both sides of the street here? Your OP was a rant about how you never get treated like an adult... yet, when the people here did exactly that (treated you as an adult who could handle constructive criticism and not as a child to be handled with kid-gloves), your response was rather reminiscent of a child throwing a temper tantrum. First you accused people of being mean, then you complained that people who were being quite polite were belittling you- while trying to twist the TOS to make disagreeing with an OP in any way a violation. Word to the wise: spitting the dummy and throwing your toys from the pram does NOT make you look like a mature adult to others. If you want to be treated with kid-gloves, then you WILL be treated like a child. If you want to be treated as an adult, you need to learn to take constructive criticism and responsibility for your own actions and decisions.

What it comes down to is: You can't have it both ways.

[Edit]- Oh, and by way of a PS: talking about killing yourself in the context you did, even as a joke, is disturbing and not even remotely funny.


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RE: When you're a feminist in this lifestyle...(a rant ... - 2/5/2009 12:02:04 AM   
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RE: When you're a feminist in this lifestyle...(a rant ... - 2/5/2009 12:14:04 AM   
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RE: When you're a feminist in this lifestyle...(a rant ... - 2/5/2009 12:47:11 AM   
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My personal opinion is that contrary to popular propaganda across the media, how you look does matter. In fact it's almost (but not quite) all that matters.

Dude.
Seriously, "looks are all that matters" is CONTRARY to popular propaganda in the media.... how exactly?? It's the popular media that focuses on looks, as the bazillion "women's" magazines laden with make-up hints, fashion advice, and tips for dieting oneself into a human skeleton will attest to. Newsflash! There are people, many of them kinky, who are looking for a compatible partner and are more interested in who someone is as a person than whether they will ever make the cover of a magazine. There are also people who are comfortable in their skin and are happy being themselves, who couldn't care less if they don't look like the media's idea of a "hottie". Welcome to the real world....
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Imagine a Halle Berry living in poverty? Would never happen unless a woman of her caliber in looks was mentally ill. Extraordinarily beautiful women don't live in poverty as adults.

Wow. The depth of your lack of understanding about how the world works is truly amazing.




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RE: When you're a feminist in this lifestyle...(a rant ... - 2/5/2009 2:55:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		rednicky - hun, if you dont look young now at 20 then its all a cod.  its no biggie and i really dont see why you should let a couple of people grind you down so much that you have to obsess over it.

as for an apology for the long ago past.  ill bet that if you approached the majority of white americans down the street and asked them how they felt about the slave trade they would tell you that it was an appalling and shameful time in history they abhor.  attitudes move on and change and dragging on the past just keeps it alive.  im not saying it should be forgotten but if the black slave trade attempted a new upsurge now, lets say, the white people down your street would demonstrate outrage and disgust.  you must know that surely!.

as for being a feminist subbie - there are lots and lots of feminist subbies.  the thing about submission is that you are only sub to the man you respect and trust, noone else.  that isnt interfering with your feminist issues, it simply means that in your private life you desire/need to relinquish yourself and your strength into safe hands.

up to a point women (unless your Domme), vanilla or otherwise, compromise themselves in order to reach a compromise that works for them and their partner. 

its all about looking at life with your glass half full not half empty.

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RE: When you're a feminist in this lifestyle...(a rant ... - 2/5/2009 3:25:08 AM   
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My personal opinion is that contrary to popular propaganda across the media, how you look does matter. In fact it's almost (but not quite) all that matters.

Dude.
Seriously, "looks are all that matters" is CONTRARY to popular propaganda in the media.... how exactly?? It's the popular media that focuses on looks, as the bazillion "women's" magazines laden with make-up hints, fashion advice, and tips for dieting oneself into a human skeleton will attest to. Newsflash! There are people, many of them kinky, who are looking for a compatible partner and are more interested in who someone is as a person than whether they will ever make the cover of a magazine. There are also people who are comfortable in their skin and are happy being themselves, who couldn't care less if they don't look like the media's idea of a "hottie". Welcome to the real world....
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Imagine a Halle Berry living in poverty? Would never happen unless a woman of her caliber in looks was mentally ill. Extraordinarily beautiful women don't live in poverty as adults.

Wow. The depth of your lack of understanding about how the world works is truly amazing.


Maybe he's just used to his subordinates screwing their way to the top

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RE: When you're a feminist in this lifestyle...(a rant ... - 2/5/2009 4:21:12 AM   
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It's been my observation that extraordinarily beautiful women don't stay that way very long when they live in poverty. 


  Very true. True if we are talking about abject poverty maybe in Mexico or Peru and most certainly it is true if we are talking abject poverty in Cambodia or Afghanistan - hell, even Haiti in the Western Hemisphere.

Not so true in the United States were most poverty tends to be what economist would call relational. This is especially true of women with dependents in the contemporary United States. I'll cede some women and children in the U.S. live in absolute or abject poverty - though this is more often true of single men and children than it is of women per se. Certainly many drug addicts in the United States (at least in the inner-cities) are as economically depressed and short of health as the poor in third world nations. The famous and scholarly liberation theologian in Peru (Fr. Gustava G.) pointed this out in one of his magnificent books. And I can't imagine being one of those homeless men or women in New York City living underground in the New York sewers. Frightful!

You can go on Youtube and punch in "Industrial Ghost" to see what abject poverty is like for men in cold weather Detroit, homeless. You'll note the absence of young women in their 40's or 30's standing around the can fire.



On the other hand I'm surrounded by obese poor women in the city, sometimes with more modern conviences than young married couples struggling below - or to stay right above - the poverty line. Some of these poor women are not obese but physically healthy, and physically sexy, and many times brandish more self-esteem than first year plumbing apprentices (whom most these women would likely despise as not "real men" because they labor for small wages).

Some women even are provided wages by the state to float them well above the U.S. poverty line (which admittedly is probably lower than what it should be).

Example:


Full Story: http://www.jsonline.com/watchdog/watchdogreports/38309864.html

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Sisters get $540,000 from state mostly for watching each other's kids, and it's perfectly legal

By Raquel Rutledge of the Journal Sentinel

Posted: Jan. 25, 2009


Second of two parts

The two-story house on 17th St. looks typical of the working-class homes on Racine's west side. Three bedrooms, one bath. Assessed by the city at $122,000.

Yet inside, a young woman has tapped into a home-based money-making operation that netted her and her three sisters more than half a million in taxpayer dollars since 2006.

And they did it with the blessing of the state.

All four had been in-home child-care providers. Collectively they have 17 children. For years, the government has paid them to stay home and care for each other's children.

Nothing illegal about it under the rules of Wisconsin Shares, the decade-old child-care assistance program designed alongside Wisconsin's welfare-to-work program.

"It's a loophole," said Laurice Lincoln, administrative coordinator for child care with the Milwaukee County Department of Health and Human Services. "Do we have concerns about it? Yes, it can be a problem. But if it's allowed, it's allowed. We really can't dispute it."

The Journal Sentinel spent four months investigating the $340 million taxpayer-supported program and uncovered an array of costly problems - including fraud. But the investigation also revealed a system rife with lax regulations that have paved the way for abuse by parents and providers.

Consider:

• Sisters or other relatives can stay home, swap kids and receive taxpayer dollars. The four Racine sisters took in as much as $540,000 in taxpayer dollars in less than three years, mostly to watch each other's kids.

• Rules allow parents to be employed by child-care providers and enroll their children at the same place. At some centers, children of employees make up the majority of kids in day care. In one Milwaukee location, an employer and parents are accused of teaming up to bilk the system out of more than $360,000.

• Child-care subsidy recipients have been allowed to work for almost any type of business. Payments were made when moms claimed to work ironing a man's shirts, drying fruit and selling artwork they made during art class.

• The government pays for child care while parents sleep. Counties have no way to monitor whether parents are actually sleeping while their kids are in day care.


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RE: When you're a feminist in this lifestyle...(a rant ... - 2/5/2009 4:23:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		FIRST OF ALL, lol i would warn any white dom that you become a submissive to simply because i have a feeling you will use his dominance of you to feel more of these feelings and become his victim and not his submissive and somehow justify your feelings of revenge and this guy may suffering your revenge in some pretty pointed ways because you feel it will be revenge based on what you have said.  Girl, you seriously need to get some help and based on what you have said, i seriously don't think it would be advantageous for you to find a white Man to be a Dom for you, while you harbor these feelings.

I am not trying to come down on you but  this misery and hate and resentment and seeking revenge over something YOU were never a part of?  Girl, you need to get a life and one you enjoy.  You make your own happiness, hell life has enough BS in it that you can cry victim about instead of using history that you never were a part of to be a victim, to me that is very disrespectful to the victims who actually WENT through the negativity.  Let the victims be victims, don't let their suffering be an outlet for your need for attention and negative outlook.  History happens, Slavery of white people happened LONG before the Americans created slavery here.   Where is your indignities and revenge for those people?  Just because we now believe something in history should have occured differently doesn't mean that it was WRONG at the time it occurred, slavery at the time was accepted which ever slavery you look at in history, the way Men and women interacted and existed was accepted.  As it became something people didn't want it changed. Sometimes for the good, sometimes not.  If you are going to be resentful, hateful etc of HISTORY then you may want to be unbiased instead of a victim because you feel it can gain you something or give you ammunition to play the victim now -- when you aren't.  On many levels i think society and people have lost a lot by the changes that have occured, and i also think we have gained a lot by the changes that have occured.  I am sure in the future our great x5 children will look back and see things we feel are right as wrong and what we see as wrong as right.

Just a thought,

angel

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RE: When you're a feminist in this lifestyle...(a rant ... - 2/5/2009 4:52:36 AM   
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My personal opinion is that contrary to popular propaganda across the media, how you look does matter. In fact it's almost (but not quite) all that matters.

Dude.
Seriously, "looks are all that matters" is CONTRARY to popular propaganda in the media.... how exactly?? It's the popular media that focuses on looks, as the bazillion "women's" magazines laden with make-up hints, fashion advice, and tips for dieting oneself into a human skeleton will attest to. Newsflash! There are people, many of them kinky, who are looking for a compatible partner and are more interested in who someone is as a person than whether they will ever make the cover of a magazine. There are also people who are comfortable in their skin and are happy being themselves, who couldn't care less if they don't look like the media's idea of a "hottie". Welcome to the real world....
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Imagine a Halle Berry living in poverty? Would never happen unless a woman of her caliber in looks was mentally ill. Extraordinarily beautiful women don't live in poverty as adults.

Wow. The depth of your lack of understanding about how the world works is truly amazing.


First off all, one might tap the documentary, "Bigger, Stronger, Faster" (I think that's what it's called), and come to terms with the modern fact boys and men are obsessed with their looks as well. This is one of the very major reasons many teenage boys and men risk their health on steroids. Now, you might consider that not a "...lack of understanding how the world woks" but floating overseas in the Marine Corps within the "theater of combat" and being one of perhaps a quarter or more of my barracks back state side (speaking of male Jarheads not WM's) injecting illegal steroids, I'll hazard to guess I know enough. And when I see one of the many attractive 20ish and 30ish Halle Berry like figures in the  inner-city being picked up by local, well-to-do, narcotic dealers in expensive cars, paying their rent, buying their clothes, and paying the cost of their expensive hair-do's to be done, I'll remind them their hardship in life is like that of the male peasent in Mexico or the oppressed woman in Afghanistan.

But then again, I don't know understand how the world works.

And what I meant by the media was popular shows like Oprah Winfrey and various magazines artilces that send us the message that we can be whatever we want or desire in life even irrespective of our looks. I don't believe this. First of all a person's own talents or capabilities may limit them (not all of us can become mechanical engineers or brain surgeons), and secondly how you look makes a huge impact, from what I have seen, in how people or even buisnesses treat you. The more attractive looking you are the more doors open for you. Know, if you are a complete idoit they may close at times after they have opened. But a person of average intelligence with extraordinarily good looks - be they male or female can generally arise to most socio-economics hieghts in life (granted that is not absolute, their are certain positions were a person may need to be extremly capable in making money for a company and things of that nature).

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RE: When you're a feminist in this lifestyle...(a rant ... - 2/5/2009 8:27:24 AM   
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I was looking for a thread dealing with this and found one! But, unfortunately, it didn't really didn't provide me with the responses I was looking for. I'm a feminist (some form of one anyway), but I take it a step further than traditional feminists. Feminists are searching for equality. I want to get even. As in, instead of being equal with men, I want the role to be reversed. I want there to be a glass ceiling for men. I want women to be on top while men are treated as the weaker sex.


Have you done any research and reading on militant and separatist feminism?

Separatists still exist, obviously in the lesbian communities since the goal is to separate the biological sexes.

Militants I'm not sure about -- they were pretty few to begin with but their rhetoric and self-publications fueled a lot of discussion (that's a polite word for it).

I think I still have my feminist rhetoric reader from a history course many years ago so if you are interested, rednicky, drop me a line and I can give you some references to readings you might find interesting.

For a more modern version of militant feminism you might look at the cultural feminists like Dworkin and McKinnon (they call themselves "radical" but when you know the history of the feminist movement you can see they are not; I'm a radical feminist and I'm not those rape-culture, all hetero sex = rape folks). Again if you are interested in that sort of stuff I can give you references if you drop me an email.


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RE: When you're a feminist in this lifestyle...(a rant ... - 2/5/2009 9:53:36 AM   
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RE: When you're a feminist in this lifestyle...(a rant ... - 2/5/2009 10:35:00 AM   
Mercnbeth


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Status: offline 		rednicky,
 
here's a list of some books you might enjoy:

White Slaves, African Masters :An anthology of American Barbary Captivity Narratives
 
White Cargo: The Forgotten History of Britain's White Slaves in America
 
They Were White and They Were Slaves: The Untold History of the Enslavement of Whites in Early America
 
The White Slave: Another Picture of Slave Life in America
 
Black Slaveowners: Free Black Slave Masters in South Carolina, 1790-1860

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RE: When you're a feminist in this lifestyle...(a rant ... - 2/5/2009 11:48:46 AM   
YourhandMyAss


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From: Sacramento
Status: offline 		I remember when I first turned 21 and was legal to drink I was so excited about being carded and proving I was old enough, and it was a huge let down when most people didn't even bother to ask to see my ID.

I am never annoyed at being asked to show my ID. It's their job to ask, and it's irresponsible of whomever is not asking, if they don't ask, and they and the company they work for could get into huge trouble.

I also remember one time my X and I were at a play party, and someone told a dungeon moniter, that my x didn't look old enough to be at the club because he looks young, he's very skinny like a young kid, and very shy and reserved,  even though he was older than I was, and we got this discreet whisper of could you come with us please, and then were told there was a question about weather we were old enough to be there, could we please show our ID's. I thought it was pretty funny.


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ORIGINAL: Sexycelticlady

. Yes, it is annoying to be asked for ID,

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RE: When you're a feminist in this lifestyle...(a rant ... - 2/5/2009 11:50:33 AM   
YourhandMyAss


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Status: offline 		However there are a few people here who take pleasure in being an asshole and harassing others whom they don't like. Those also happen to be few and far between though.

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ORIGINAL: missturbation

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ORIGINAL: rednicky

Oh so now I have to prove I deserve to be treated politely and with sensitivity?


As a general rule of thumb i tend to find that the peeps here treat you the way you treat them.

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RE: When you're a feminist in this lifestyle...(a rant ... - 2/5/2009 12:13:28 PM   
LaTigresse


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Status: offline 		I was really bummed when they stopped asked for my ID.............le'sigh.

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