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ORIGINAL: caitlyn

Well ... I'm somewhat in the habit of putting that little winky thing at the end of a line, to indicate harmless teasing.

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BUT ... since you started this ... and mentioned balanced budgets and conservatives:

The last Republican President to submit a balanced budget was Eisenhower, who submitted two balanced budgets in his four year administration. Before him, a Republican President had not submitted a balanced budget since Abraham Lincoln was in office.

The list of Democratic Presidents that have submitted balanced budgets is long. Just in the last 60 years or so:
Clinton - 5
LBJ - 2
Truman - 2
FDR - 6

That's 15 balanced budgets to 2, since the beginning of FDR's three terms.

Since the start of the second world war, for every dollar the debt has increased while a Democratic President was in office, it has increased $2.87 with a Republican President in office. If you look at that same time period, with a Republican President and a Republican majority in Congress, the debt has increased $11.23 for every dollar it increased with a Democratic President and Democratic control in Congress. In all fairness, the majority of that gap belongs to just two Republican Presidents, Ronald Reagan and our current President. Our current President has raised the national debt in five years, more than every Democratic President combined, since the founding of our nation.

Please forgive me for highjacking this thread, and thank you for your time ... cc

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I suspose there is many reasons to why we come here and see a lack of acceptance for others and even feel it directed towards ourselves, I know I felt it. I would even be so bold to say that we have on occassion been unaccepting of others from time to time, I know I have.

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i am a repub and a conservitive its true most are not about war no one wants war but its about what is the morally right thing to do let people die or save people its burdon that i would never want but respect those that have to do the right thing i guess its easy to sit on the side lines a judge but then again everyone does but let it besaid one the does nothing gains nothing knowlege is all how you use it good or bad one produces other takes away from

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ORIGINAL: Petruchio


It made me realize that those who just squeaked in through the gate are quick to shut others out. People who are secure in themselves, never seem to exclude others. After all, everyone had to start somewhere.

My hypothesis is that people who judge others as wankers, wannabees, and posers, are themselves posers.

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ORIGINAL: caitlyn

Well ... I'm somewhat in the habit of putting that little winky thing at the end of a line, to indicate harmless teasing.

<--- (like this one here)

BUT ... since you started this ... and mentioned balanced budgets and conservatives:

The last Republican President to submit a balanced budget was Eisenhower, who submitted two balanced budgets in his four year administration. Before him, a Republican President had not submitted a balanced budget since Abraham Lincoln was in office.

The list of Democratic Presidents that have submitted balanced budgets is long. Just in the last 60 years or so:
Clinton - 5
LBJ - 2
Truman - 2
FDR - 6

That's 15 balanced budgets to 2, since the beginning of FDR's three terms.

Since the start of the second world war, for every dollar the debt has increased while a Democratic President was in office, it has increased $2.87 with a Republican President in office. If you look at that same time period, with a Republican President and a Republican majority in Congress, the debt has increased $11.23 for every dollar it increased with a Democratic President and Democratic control in Congress. In all fairness, the majority of that gap belongs to just two Republican Presidents, Ronald Reagan and our current President. Our current President has raised the national debt in five years, more than every Democratic President combined, since the founding of our nation.

Please forgive me for highjacking this thread, and thank you for your time ... cc

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ORIGINAL: NeedToUseYou
Sorry, if you were offended.

When a person makes the choice to discuss politics, they better have thick skin. I wasn't the least bit offended, so there is no need to apologize ... although I do appreciate the sentiment.

It would be fair to point out though, that it certainly wasn't liberals that elected Republican Presidents.

As an aside, I got those figures off the C.B.O. website, so they are probably reasonably accurate, or at least non-partisan.

Excellent debate though ... and thank you for participating.

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Excellent debate though ... and thank you for participating.

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Exactly what were you debating?