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RE: Is your submission priceless??? - 2/6/2009 10:59:28 AM   
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To me my submission is a gift, which I make my dom earn everyday.

a gift is given freely and should never have to be earned daily




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RE: Is your submission priceless??? - 2/6/2009 11:01:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		My submission is not priceless.  I would totally submit for some extra money. ;)

My submission is not a gift.  It definitely comes with a lot of conditions.  Someone put it really well when they said submission is more like seduction.  Someone can seduce me into submitting and then we will talk about making a choice for that to be a constant dynamic.  It would be really hard for someone to seduce me into submitting to them if they were pandering to me and trying to 'earn' my submission.  I definitely want to make sure someone 'deserves' it and won't mistreat me.  But there are no tasks or tests he needs to pass.


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RE: Is your submission priceless??? - 2/6/2009 11:16:52 AM   
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Status: offline 		I think I missed something...the OP said "To me my submission is a gift, which I make my dom earn everyday"
 
Umm.. a gift is something freely given, not something earned.  A REWARD can be earned, but I'm pretty sure gifts are given freely with no attachments, contracts, monetary promises.  I also believe the law will back Me up on this, just watch Judge Judy to see what is and isn't considered "gifting".

And I wonder how the OP "makes" her Dom do anything, never mind earn her submission-and then she REWARDS him with it.  My slave doesn't make ME do ANYTHING, especially earn his submission.  When we met, we did under the circumstance he was ready to give Me the submission. I didn't have to coerce, cajole, beg, earn, prod or poke (all right-I prodded and poked), bought-you all know what I mean.  That's too much work if a slave says "I'll serve you but you have to DESERVE it..."  I say.. BUH BYE. By the same token, I don't expect a slave to serve simply because I am Dominant-but because I am ME and I'm Dominant. 

One *earns* trust and honor and those require time.  If I have to "fight" for a slave's submission, well he/she is not the one for Me.

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RE: Is your submission priceless??? - 2/6/2009 6:00:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		No I don't make him do anything, I don't make him earn my submission, my submission is not a gift.

I submit to him willingly and he dominates me because  he wants to and we do this because we errrr....get this weird thing....we like each other..a lot...and we respect each other as people and our personalities mesh.

Are you sure you're not a domme? I think you may wanna think about how your submission comes off to a potential mate or playpartner or whatever. I have a feeling it can't possibly be working for you.

If I'm wrong then I'd wonder who is the controlling factor in the relationship.


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RE: Is your submission priceless??? - 2/6/2009 6:11:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		I wondered about that too Littlewonder. The OP post and previous ones has a strong hint of sadist in them. Though I honestly not sure if Doms = insensitivity to others. shrugs..that i honestly dont know, but could be.

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RE: Is your submission priceless??? - 2/6/2009 6:28:12 PM   
Voodali


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Status: offline 		earn my submission.....hmmm...perhaps I'll redefine myself as a switch.  Could be a fun mindfuck.
But seriously, the reason I don't list myself as a switch is that I know if I were to try to serve someone it would all be very conditional.  Its not that I wouldn't enjoy it, because I do have the occasional submissive fantasy, but I know I could only submit to someone who was nearly christlike in his prefection.  He'd have to be extremely moral, somewhat attractive, monogamous, he'd have to love me, he'd have to spoil me rotten, I'd never do anal, and I would refuse housework and other tedium, and I'd  have several hard limits.  Oh, and he'd have to have this gentle, humble, soft-spoken way about him...sort of like....a submissive !  This is why I'd make a crappy slave, and probably should never even try.  But yes, regarding earning your submission, I think I know what you mean.

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RE: Is your submission priceless??? - 2/6/2009 6:40:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		It's not a job, it's not something to be taken lightly either. it's who we are. It happens to be that we are both similar in our needs. He needs to control, I need to surrender. He knows how to control himself perfectly, and I know how to relinquish my control when he desires it. It works because as he says, there is sympatico... that's all...

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RE: Is your submission priceless??? - 2/6/2009 7:17:44 PM   
kallisto


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Status: offline 		Earn my submission?   That must be another chapter in the submission handbook that I didn't read.   I think I've lost my handbook.  Does anyone have an extra copy they could loan me or maybe a "submission for dummies"?  

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RE: Is your submission priceless??? - 2/6/2009 7:35:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		I don't think the op would make a good dominant because she doesn't care about her partners or how they feel. I do think she's into nonconsensual emotional sadism.

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RE: Is your submission priceless??? - 2/6/2009 7:39:39 PM   
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quote:

quote:

RE: Is your submission priceless???

No.  It's not a commodity.


Ummm... priceless MEANS that it's not a commodity. Commodities have prices.

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RE: Is your submission priceless??? - 2/6/2009 7:59:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have to agree with some of the other posters; I don't make him do anything.  All he had to do was be himself and then eventually I was able to move past all my reservations and realize that who he is is exactly what I wanted.  Obedience to him is essentially second nature for me.

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RE: Is your submission priceless??? - 2/6/2009 8:03:15 PM   
hardbodysub


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Status: offline 		No way do I consider my submission a gift. That sounds somehow egotistical, like I'm generously bestowing up her the honor of my special service.

But neither do I make a dominant "earn" it. That sounds like I stipulate that she must do X if she wants me to do Y.

It's more subtle than that. She obtains my submission because she makes me feel that it's the best alternative, the only good choice I have. A woman has to have some special qualities or abilities that make me want to submit. She knows she has power over me, knows how to influence me to get what she wants. Some things come naturally, and she easily has me doing what she wants; other things may take a little more effort on her part, a little more use of her special influence.

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RE: Is your submission priceless??? - 2/6/2009 9:29:50 PM   
SassySarijane


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ORIGINAL: kyraofMists

I have to agree with some of the other posters; I don't make him do anything.  All he had to do was be himself and then eventually I was able to move past all my reservations and realize that who he is is exactly what I wanted.  Obedience to him is essentially second nature for me.

Knight's Kyra


Kyra thank you. You just pretty much nailed what I was thinking when I typed my ealier post to this thread.

For me it is that simple and that complex. By the man being himself, submitting and doing for him is just natural as feelings grow. It's been like that in my nonbdsm relationships. Submission was there but I had no name for it outside of expressing love and caring for him.

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RE: Is your submission priceless??? - 2/6/2009 9:36:53 PM   
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RE: Is your submission priceless??? - 2/6/2009 9:38:58 PM   
SassySarijane


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Status: offline 		Ok, that did it. One little three letter word and now I've got bubble wrap on the brain again. Careful with those *pop*s lol.

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RE: Is your submission priceless??? - 2/6/2009 9:41:01 PM   
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*Hijack*

I got bubble wrap in the mail with something today... and it doesn't pop. It's this stupid new kind where all the bubbles are linked together... so there's no satisfying my tiny sadistic little urges. Sad story!


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RE: Is your submission priceless??? - 2/6/2009 9:50:02 PM   
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3 stainless steel jump rings - $1.75.

1 ballgag made from a dog's squeaky toy -- $5.00

The look on his face when I walk out of the bathroom dressed as Mistress Ouchina the Clown?

Priceless.

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RE: Is your submission priceless??? - 2/6/2009 9:54:13 PM   
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RE: Is your submission priceless??? - 2/6/2009 11:09:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		Did He have to work for my submission. No. That sounds odd to me.

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RE: Is your submission priceless??? - 2/7/2009 7:15:13 AM   
SassySarijane


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ORIGINAL: Lynnxz

Omg. >:O

*Hijack*

I got bubble wrap in the mail with something today... and it doesn't pop. It's this stupid new kind where all the bubbles are linked together... so there's no satisfying my tiny sadistic little urges. Sad story!



*sends you big hugs and much empathy*

A sadist had to have invented that and I'd like a little time alone with them to "discuss" that invention. (has sadistic streak especially on something like that!)

It would completely drive me nuts and I'd likely grab a hammer at some point in my determination to get it to pop.

On another note, trying the singletail scene with that kind of bubblewrap would have really made it interesting!

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