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domiguy -> RE: A gift! is it thus or not? (2/8/2009 5:32:27 PM)
Her submission is definitely a gift. I have been an avid supporter of this conclusion since I washed up on the shores of CM. Now looking around for some woman to buy into this shit....I just hoped she isn't dressed up like an elf or a bunny.

Knite064 -> RE: A gift! is it thus or not? (2/8/2009 5:35:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: dreamerdreaming Mmkay, someone please enlighten me, thanks. What was castlerealm, exactly? I went there, and there was just a wall. The site has been down for quite some time. What was so bad about it? Its beem closed a good few years now but it had a very overomanticised idea of BDSM and whilst some loved the site others hated it. It was a master and slave that ran it but allegedly the slave died (i say allegedly as some think the whole sites fake) be well

mistoferin -> RE: A gift! is it thus or not? (2/8/2009 5:40:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sexycelticlady quote: ORIGINAL: mistoferin OMG!!!! Submission as a gift and the mention of CastleRealm all in the same post!!! Why don't you just stab me in the eyes with screwdrivers??? (It'd be less painful)[:'(] Simple solution. Stop reading it. And miss all this? Hey, comedy this good is hard to come by!

dreamerdreaming -> RE: A gift! is it thus or not? (2/8/2009 6:23:47 PM)
Oh. Was it a game?

windchymes -> RE: A gift! is it thus or not? (2/8/2009 6:30:57 PM)
All right, whose unicorn pooped in the fallout shelter? [:'(]

Lynnxz -> RE: A gift! is it thus or not? (2/8/2009 6:31:43 PM)
Wasn't me. Mine poops rainbows.

windchymes -> RE: A gift! is it thus or not? (2/8/2009 6:34:37 PM)
It does smell kinda tutti-fruitti....

MissSepphora1 -> RE: A gift! is it thus or not? (2/8/2009 6:37:48 PM)
I could get into scat play if it was unicorn poop. I kinda like snowman poop too. Is that a West Virginia thing?

Lynnxz -> RE: A gift! is it thus or not? (2/8/2009 6:42:08 PM)
Snowman poop... hahaha cute!

MarcEsadrian -> RE: A gift! is it thus or not? (2/8/2009 7:07:33 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: CelticPrince Within the contect of D/s, is submission a gift given freely or not? One offering one's body and mind to serve another is giving of his / herself. In this way, it could be seen as a gift, but if it is honest submission that is the goal, the gift should not come with grandiose hopes of "payback" or even appreciation. That is how some give gifts. They give them to win things over in people, like gratitude, loyalty or affection. A gift is truly a gift when you can accept it without feeling entangled in some form of obligation. So to answer your question a little more directly, I would say (ideally) submission is a gift that should be given freely to the chosen recipient.

KatyLied -> RE: A gift! is it thus or not? (2/8/2009 7:12:23 PM)
I know that many enjoy the unicorn. But I dream of pink pegasus. I use an umbrella to ward off the poop that falls to earth.

graceadieu -> RE: A gift! is it thus or not? (2/8/2009 7:34:55 PM)
As I always say to this topic - I think submission is a gift, but dominance equally so.

IrishMist -> RE: A gift! is it thus or not? (2/8/2009 7:39:30 PM)
quote: Within the contect of D/s, is submission a gift given freely or not? For myself, and only myself....my thoughts are.... NO, my submission is not a gift. I submit to a man because he touches something within me, not because I want to 'gift' him with something 'precious'. What's more, I don't have to be in a relationship with him to feel that need to submit in his presence. It could just as easily be a stranger on the street as someone I have known all my life. There is no 'gifting' involved. Only submitting. Pretty simple.

NuevaVida -> RE: A gift! is it thus or not? (2/8/2009 8:00:42 PM)
Hey just having me in your life is a gift! [8D] OK OK on a more serious note...Before I married my ex husband I wrote him a love letter/poem, in which I expressed that I wanted to give him something original and important, which couldn't be duplicated. I was giving him myself - my heart - and asked only that he handle it with care. It was the most meaningful thing I could think of giving him. I didn't consider this a "gift" - it just "was." When it dawned on me he was abusing what I had given to him, I took it back. Now, I don't see my submission as some commodity that can be gifted or traded. My submission is part of the greater whole that is me. Since then, I have given myself unconditionally. I didn't consider this a gift, though, in fact I didn't give much thought to whether or not giving myself to someone would be a gift, and I still don't. Giving myself over is a choice, and in the future it will be conditional. Because of this, I don't see it as a gift. I will take myself back if mistreated. And with me comes my submission, so that isn't a gift, either. Just some random thoughts on the subject...

catize -> RE: A gift! is it thus or not? (2/8/2009 9:30:21 PM)
quote: One offering one's body and mind to serve another is giving of his / herself. In this way, it could be seen as a gift, but if it is honest submission that is the goal, the gift should not come with grandiose hopes of "payback" or even appreciation. That is how some give gifts. They give them to win things over in people, like gratitude, loyalty or affection. A gift is truly a gift when you can accept it without feeling entangled in some form of obligation. So to answer your question a little more directly, I would say (ideally) submission is a gift that should be given freely to the chosen recipient. Nice fantasy! In reality, if we didn’t get something positive from submission, we wouldn’t do it.

BondageBarbieX -> RE: A gift! is it thus or not? (2/8/2009 10:19:10 PM)
Yes,I give mine freely

DickDuster -> RE: A gift! is it thus or not? (2/8/2009 10:25:23 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BondageBarbieX Yes,I give mine freely I thought you did it for his estate?

aravain -> RE: A gift! is it thus or not? (2/8/2009 10:27:13 PM)
whistle wow Cat fight? >.>

colouredin -> RE: A gift! is it thus or not? (2/9/2009 2:07:34 AM)
I dont think its a gift any more than Dominance is. We are what we are for whatever reasons, we do what we can to make ourselves happy. Its not a gift to get in a relationship for yourself. It is such a struggle isnt it, but we are all selfish we all do what we can to fullfill ourselves. To pretend it is anything else is fooling yourself.

MissMorrigan -> RE: A gift! is it thus or not? (2/9/2009 2:15:37 AM)
So, submission is an altruistic act? Speaking of altruism, I'm a cynical mare, I have yet to see any evidence of what is considered an altrustic act, even those that are considered acts of 'selfless heroism'. How on earth can one freely give to another what is a characteristic? Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

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