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ORIGINAL: BondageBarbieX

Yes,I give mine freely

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ORIGINAL: ranja

My Husband gives me pain and humiliation and i take it...greedily and i ask for more

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ORIGINAL: CatdeMedici

I do not see it as any more a gift than two people who have mutually agreed upon a relationship arrangement that works for them.
 
Gifts are good until the return receipt option is played.

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ORIGINAL: CallaFirestormBW

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Within the contect of D/s, is submission a gift given freely or not?

The pleasure of having a successful relationship that includes the aspects that we desire in our interactions with one another is a gift, but it is a gift that all members of the relationship share freely with one another -- it doesn't weigh the contributions of one party over that of another.

IMO neither dominant behavior nor submissive behavior, in and of themselves, are "gifts" -- they only flourish in concert, and the idea that one is more 'special' or more worthy of special significance than the other is illogical. Dominance and submission are simply aspects of a human personality. What may be a gift to one person may easily be a PITA and extra work to someone else -- so the idea that submission is a gift, or that dominance is a gift is, to me, one more bit of hooey designed to make oneself seem extra important, and often to justify behaviors, attitudes, and actions that belie the relationship that they are -supposed- to be representing.

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ORIGINAL: marie2

Nah, I don't view submission as a gift.  It might be an "honor" of sorts when someone trusts another with their vulnerability etc, and I do think there should be an appreciation for that level of trust, but I wouldn't call it a gift.  

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ORIGINAL: Nikitaa

If I find a man under Christmas tree wrapped in ribbon with bow then submissive is gift.
If I must seek a man in the mens dorm building and grab him by his hair and pull him down and walk on him then is not gift, but more fun. ;-)

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ORIGINAL: NuevaVida

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ORIGINAL: CelticPrince

Thanks for your thoughts, they read so well till I came to the conditional part; but i do know where your coming from.!

CP

I've been "unconditional" before.  It didn't work out so well.  So I wrote given where I am now, which is a state of transition.  Maybe that will change in time.  Maybe it won't...I really don't know.  But right now I'm all I've got, and I have to look out for myself.  The idea of giving over everything unconditionally leaves me thinking that leaves me too vulnerable to the pain I went through, which is not something I want to repeat.  I have found there is a line within me and when it's crossed my emotions change and I pull back forever.

Perhaps in my future there will be someone who brings me to that unconditional place again, but  I have no crystal ball and simply do not know.  It would have to be something pretty damned special, though.  But this is why I no longer identify as a slave (as I define slave to be).   I'm just not willing to go through that again at this time.

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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

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Within the contect of D/s, is submission a gift given freely or not?

this slave believes it to be wholly subjective.  it could be any number of things depending on the perspective of the individual's experience.
 
considering all of this slave's experiences, submission has been:
a blessing
a curse
a gift
a knee-jerk reaction
something this slave was trained to do as a wee one
the "wrong" thing to do, at the time
a choice she made within the context of an intimate relationship at age 36
a source of pain and anguish
the "right" thing to do, at the time
a source of fulfillment and ecstasy
a way to comfortably and genuinely relate to others
etc.

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ORIGINAL: YourhandMyAss

No, my submission is not a gift, It's not given freely you must earn it,* the generic you, not you CP* and then prove you deserve to keep it, with your words and your actions.

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ORIGINAL: CelticPrince

There have been some posts that danced around this subject but unless I missed it, it has not been recently. Every day another couple of dozen folks come into CM with varied take of the subject. It is of little consequence for the pupose of this thread which side of the slash your on. What is of some import is your feelings on the subject.

Within the contect of D/s, is submission a gift given freely or not?

What say you A/all?

CP

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ORIGINAL: Naberius

Submission is not a gift, it is an honor given upon the man/woman who is worthy enough to be called that girls/guys dominant. The gift in this case is the submissive/slave who gives themselves to that dominant. 

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ORIGINAL: Vendaval

If you cannot wrap it in a box and ship it Fed Ex, then it is not a gift!  [8D]

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ORIGINAL: Amaros

I don't really have a problem with it, it's a ritual thing, goes back to Feudalism, i.e., it's similar to swearing fealty to a particular lord, it's a pledge of service.

Technically, it is more of a bargain, or an arrangement, but certainly, surrendering your freedom is a pretty big deal, so I sympathize with those who like to play up the nobility angle a little, why not? Whatever spins your propeller.

If it's something you're going to hold over my head, then it isn't a gift, it's extortion, and I have, on occasion, been prompted to say: "what gift? I'm doing all the work", lol.