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QuixoticErrant -> RE: Beautiful Minds (2/13/2009 2:58:16 PM)
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'm working on with a partner. What is really important to me is the ability to hold well reasoned conversation on a wide variety of topics and if called for debate them. The last thing I would want is to be with someone and run out of meaningful things to say that relate to current events. However, don't get me wrong, it is nice to be able to talk on some level about the work you do - even if you have to lay the foundation for those conversations. This is, however, what is important to me. Everyone has their own conditions that are important to them in a partner and how a partner displays their intelligence is just one factor that I would hope that is considered when choosing a partner.
As for whether or not a submissive (regardless of gender) could respect someone who they felt was less intelligent then themselves. I have to disagree. I think respect has nothing to do with intelligence. I know some very intelligent people who I do not respect. Yet I can think of an adult non-traditional student who is not the brightest in the class but really tries and gives everything to their classes and even when they don't do well they keep going. I have nothing but the highest respect for them. Respect to me is built over time between two people. Intelligence is a a state of being.
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ORIGINAL: nafakcha
I suppose it depends on what really is important to you in a partner. For me I need to be able to hold an intelligent conversation. Now that doesn't mean talking about higher mathematics or the latest x-ray diffraction pattern or chemical reaction I'm working on with a partner. What is really important to me is the ability to hold well reasoned conversation on a wide variety of topics and if called for debate them. The last thing I would want is to be with someone and run out of meaningful things to say that relate to current events. However, don't get me wrong, it is nice to be able to talk on some level about the work you do - even if you have to lay the foundation for those conversations. This is, however, what is important to me. Everyone has their own conditions that are important to them in a partner and how a partner displays their intelligence is just one factor that I would hope that is considered when choosing a partner.
As for whether or not a submissive (regardless of gender) could respect someone who they felt was less intelligent then themselves. I have to disagree. I think respect has nothing to do with intelligence. I know some very intelligent people who I do not respect. Yet I can think of an adult non-traditional student who is not the brightest in the class but really tries and gives everything to their classes and even when they don't do well they keep going. I have nothing but the highest respect for them. Respect to me is built over time between two people. Intelligence is a a state of being.
Keiko
I hear you and I agree with almost everything you are saying. I too do not need to talk theoretical physics to be attracted to someone. I do however need to be able to talk about something of interest. It does not matter what so much as that it is fun and stimulating.
I too know a lot of brilliant annoying people. I am not trying to say that intelligence is the only thing that commands respect. Nobility (in the non-hereditary sense) goodness and inner strength are essential. However, as far as commanding respect goes, I find it difficult to see a leader have the proper gravitas needed to assume command if (s)he can't form a complete sentence. I, and I think most people, need to be able to feel that the leader knows what is what.
I was also not trying to say that an IQ test is mandatory for attraction. I think this is much the same in the vanilla world. Unless there is that kind of meeting of minds, not always on the same topics, but with a certain shared level of inquisitiveness and ability to communicate, the relationship will quickly become purely physical. It does not matter what the topics are, so long as both partners enjoy them and are capable of sharing in them.
Perhaps the better refinement - what I should have said instead on reflection, is that I can see an intelligent submissive getting into the fantasy of being taken by the big dumb brute. I can not see her wanting to go long term with him.
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