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RE: What does it matter if.... - 2/21/2009 8:21:14 AM   
OsideGirl


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When I was looking for a male Dom.....I received over 400 responses in 4 weeks. The number of male Doms looking for a female submissive far outnumbers the female submissives looking for a male Dom. That means that I can be picky. That means that I can go for a guy that I find attractive, intelligent, social and that I generally like being around.

OP, the way you describe yourself does you no favors. Beyond that, I find whining about the lack of money and lack of inches to be less than "Dom-like". You also have some major spelling errors going on and spell check is a free program. It speaks of being too lazy to take the time....which means that I'm not worth the extra 30 seconds. I'm sorry, you just don't present any positives to me, which isn't very attractive.

I think maybe you need to think about how you view yourself and how you present yourself.

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RE: What does it matter if.... - 2/21/2009 8:37:10 AM   
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Status: offline 		To the op...WE all have to start some where and if its in a trailer park so be it,I happen to live in an old 162 year old farm house,every woman looks for a man that can provide for their needs and loves the good things in life..Like some one has said some of those damm double wides can run as high as 150  grand, so trailer park doesn't neccessarly mean trailer trash..i would suggest that you clean your grammer up and look around local for some subbies..just my three cents bounty

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RE: What does it matter if.... - 2/21/2009 8:37:38 AM   
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Beyond that, I find whining about the lack of money and lack of inches to be less than "Dom-like".


That is what I don't understand either. Some people still find it (romatic??) possible to submit to a dirt-poor man who doesn't take care of himself. 

Some don't understand why others don't find that type of person dominant in any way, shape or form.

Defend poverty all you want, but someone who is 'intentionally' poor is not going to turn my crank.  Ghandi lived in linen on a sand carpet for the mostpart of his life....but he sure was one hell of an enlightened, powerful and masterful person in his mind and heart.  Just to have listened to him for an hour in person and I would have been in awe.  I'd want to rub his bald head for hours.

Some men succeed, some just think they have brilliance to offer.  If so brilliant, why aren't they running a corporation and driving a Lexus just for grocery shopping.

Makes no difference if a guy's roof is gold, but how anyone would play with some guy who (comparibly) still drives a Pinto and pretend he is God's gift and all-powerful for even 10 minutes is beyond me.  I couldn't even fake it.

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RE: What does it matter if.... - 2/21/2009 8:40:35 AM   
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ORIGINAL: domiguy

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ORIGINAL: Aileen1968

I wouln't even read your email to me based on your choice of username. It would get deleted unread. First impressions are huge.
Just because someone is looking for a playmate or a casual relationship doesn't mean they don't want an attraction to that person.


I cant believe how closed minded the woman of this site can be!!!!!  I think the op sounds groovy.

If I would have taken the advice I found here I would never have taken the time to find the love of my life.

It will be two years this March and my relationship with "loosewertwat" is still going as strong as ever.


Hey DOMI hows it hanging,haven't seen you around for a while..BH

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RE: What does it matter if.... - 2/21/2009 8:59:15 AM   
OsideGirl


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ORIGINAL: came4U


Defend poverty all you want
My issue isn't with poverty. Circumstances happen, especially now with mass lay offs. My issue is with someone whining "poor me" about it. It's being completely negative, getting upset when someone else finds the negativity unattractive, and then blaming others for the situation.





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RE: What does it matter if.... - 2/21/2009 12:48:03 PM   
came4U


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My issue isn't with poverty. Circumstances happen, especially now with mass lay offs.


That is what I meant by intent..not environmental challenges/changes.  People with 'intent to improve' gradually over time, who overcome social boundaries to accomplish many things using many aquired and varied skills.  This has nothing to do with a guy who went bankrupt last week, this has everything to do with a guy who is 40+ and has zero accomplishment to even compare to someone who lost more than that other person even has proven so far.  That man who went bankrupt likely has the potential to again improve through sheer determination (domination) of his surroundings.

is why I said:

quote:

Defend poverty all you want, but someone who is 'intentionally' poor is not going to turn my crank.


Someone like this is either mentally challenged or has no intent on controlling his environment/surroundings to be calling himself a dominant.

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It's being completely negative, getting upset when someone else finds the negativity unattractive, and then blaming others for the situation. 


I agree. It is the same for people that expect something for nothing.  New money or old money issue aside, educated or highschool dropout, if you are any kind of  dominant personality....expect the 'average' submissive's choice to be someone of higher quality, intel and financial position to be higher than the submissive her/himself.   

That is life. 

Why choose a man of weaker social/economic and academic status to dominate?  Even for play, some can do so (because they don't care to know how unworldly he actually is). I don't get it, I never will.  I have to highly respect a man in many ways before I consider him a dominant.

A simple man of little means,brains and/or ability can only dominante me (or some others) by brute force or unconsensual kidnapping.  That doesn't mean I would respect him via natural time and form.  Despite the concept of Stockholm Syndrome, the thought of love and respect would be artificial in concept...therefore 'useless' in my ideal of lifestyle-adaptive reality.  A millionaire could kidnap a gal, doesn't mean he is less of a goofball who didn't use his brains to aquire polite social skills and a means of manipulating the world (even women) around him to do his bidding.  When we are adults, a goof personality is still a goof. 

A native Indian has been raised by birth to hunt, trap and be brave in the face of danger.....if you cannot live off the fat of the land, contribute, be generous and show some dignity to that clan then you are pretty well useless to the entire society.  Nothing has changed, furs and meats just turned into cotton and paper. 

Don't expect someone who prefers meat and fur to be impressed when all you have is ..... factory processed burger and a bus pass to nowhere.




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RE: What does it matter if.... - 2/21/2009 3:45:11 PM   
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That means that I can go for a guy that I find attractive, intelligent, social and that I generally like being around.

OP, the way you describe yourself does you no favors. Beyond that, I find whining about the lack of money and lack of inches to be less than "Dom-like". You also have some major spelling errors going on and spell check is a free program. It speaks of being too lazy to take the time....which means that I'm not worth the extra 30 seconds. I'm sorry, you just don't present any positives to me, which isn't very attractive.

*waves to OsideGirl 'cause she lives a few miles from me*
Good post! I very much agree that a man who puts himself down in his profile rather than highlighting his good qualities isn't going to get very far, at least with me, and that whining about his circumstances isn't a very Domly thing to do.
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If so brilliant, why aren't they running a corporation and driving a Lexus just for grocery shopping.

If you can't understand  why some people don't define success by what kind of car someone drives or how much money is in their bank accounts, C4U, no one will be able to explain it to you. That said, I will posit that such a rich, CEO type Dom might be looking for a woman who is more interested in who he is than how much money he makes.

As an aside, when my parents decided to move back to Ohio to be closer to my siblings, their double wide "trailer" in a nice park went for $180,000+.



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RE: What does it matter if.... - 2/21/2009 8:49:51 PM   
came4U


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If you can't understand  why some people don't define success by what kind of car someone drives or how much money is in their bank accounts, C4U, no one will be able to explain it to you. That said, I will posit that such a rich, CEO type Dom might be looking for a woman who is more interested in who he is than how much money he makes.


I don't want to have to draw you a picture of what social success is either. 

A CEO who happens to be a dominant better be a lot of things:  Educated, wise, ethical, compassionate and a potent user of authority.  Some are, some aren't.  Most are set in that position for the wrong reasons and have few or none of those aptitudes (as recent economic failures show).

.A poor man on the other hand..may be lacking in one or all of these characteristics.  No thanks, both the crappy CEO and the poor man are equally weak (as choice of potential dominant).






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RE: What does it matter if.... - 2/22/2009 1:53:39 AM   
WyldHrt


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Status: offline 		Having just read the post you made before my last one (being on moderation is a bitch, ain't it?), I understand your position a bit better and disagree even more than I did before, as I feel that your "criteria" for success is seriously wanting, and your need to insult people you consider "inferior" in your posts is distasteful at best. That said, feel free to NOT make blanket statements about what "the average submissive" will choose as, unless I missed a Universal Subbie Association meeting, you are only speaking for yourself.

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RE: What does it matter if.... - 2/22/2009 2:50:06 AM   
came4U


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I understand your position a bit better and disagree even more than I did before, as I feel that your "criteria" for success is seriously wanting, and your need to insult people you consider "inferior" in your posts is distasteful at best.


If you feel inferior, that is your problem. 

If my criteria is to not want a blonde man with blue eyes (which is a preference I have) are you going to argue that fact too until you MAKE me want a blonde? Same goes for if you think by defending some imaginary broke guy I will eventually change my mind and find beer guts and pawnshop regulars on my 'fave masters of all time' list starting tomorrow.

quote:

That said, feel free to NOT make blanket statements about what "the average submissive"  


The average submissive doesn't go looking for a man who is subservient to his environment (aka in dire poverty) to rock her world with his domination.  Poverty just isn't sexy, sorry.

I don't care that you enjoy the company of poor men.  You maybe even enjoy blonde men.  I just don't care. 



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RE: What does it matter if.... - 2/22/2009 5:45:05 AM   
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RE: What does it matter if.... - 2/23/2009 12:46:37 AM   
WyldHrt


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If you feel inferior, that is your problem.

LMFAO, I certainly wasn't referring to myself with that comment. I was referring to your apparent need to insult Doms who don't meet your personal standards of "domliness".  
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If my criteria is to not want a blonde man with blue eyes (which is a preference I have) are you going to argue that fact too until you MAKE me want a blonde? Same goes for if you think by defending some imaginary broke guy I will eventually change my mind and find beer guts and pawnshop regulars on my 'fave masters of all time' list starting tomorrow.

I couldn't care less what your standards are. I said several posts ago that you are certainly entitled to your personal preferences and I stand by that. Believe it or not, this isn't about you. My objection is to your attempts to foist your preferences on others, which is the only reason I even commented on them at all.
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The average submissive doesn't go looking for a man who is subservient to his environment (aka in dire poverty) to rock her world with his domination.  Poverty just isn't sexy, sorry.

Again with saying what the average submissive wants. Sorry to disappoint, but that is up to her/ him, not you, as is what defines "dire poverty".
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I don't care that you enjoy the company of poor men.  You maybe even enjoy blonde men.  I just don't care.

As you know nothing of either who I am or what my standards for potential dominants are, you are making quite the assumption, yet again. The point (I'll use small words here) is that I don't feel the need to apply my standards to anyone else, let alone the majority of submissives. Nor do I feel the need to tell anyone that they are not a "weal, twue" Dom because they don't meet my personal preferences.

Since actually reading/ comprehending my posts before replying doesn't seem to be on your "to do" list, I'll leave you to it.

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RE: What does it matter if.... - 2/23/2009 10:35:33 AM   
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ORIGINAL: TrailerParkDom

I see your point but I would think that there still going to ask the same questions. It seems to be a thing that happens a lot to me. I have another profile as a couple  and we get a lot of the same thing and its does not have trailer in the name at all. lol


I am amazed that so many got caught up with your name, when your profile screams RUN and it sends up so many freakin' red flags it was hard to finish.  Yes, as others have said, most submissives get HUNDREDS of messages from men here, day after day inboxes full of messages.

You said you wrote to the women, and after reading your profile, I can only imagine what you wrote to them.  I would bet THAT was why you didnt get replies.  I think its much easier to just bitch at the women, blaming them for being gold diggers, blaming them for not wanting YOU -- instead of looking at YOURSELF and figuring out that you offer so little and are demanding and expecting so much.

You say you want age play and a pain slut.  You want only to play, with no real relationship.  You mention your wife is learning to top, so does that mean the women will submit to her too?  

Then you describe the kind of women you want:  a certain height, a specific look, a certain size range, etc.  DUDE, go buy a kit and build yourself the ideal woman!  Do you realize how few women would even fit YOUR requrements, even forgetting about how little you have to offer them in exchange for their submission?

The hell with your name LOL I suspect its YOU and what you want and how you are probably contacting them and what little you are going to give them.  Oh and I understand about names too -- I sure  have not been bothered much since coming up with THIS name LOL

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RE: What does it matter if.... - 2/24/2009 6:30:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		the profile is much better.  I might re-think the personal physical appearance paragraph.  Height and weight is probably enough, let the other person decide if they think you have a beer gut.  And the decription of your hair is just ewwwww.  I do hope it looks much better then you describe.

I'd probably say something to the effect of:

"I'm 6' tall, 240 pounds.  I have hazel eyes and brown hair and will be willing to provide photos once we start communicating."

I like the paragraph where you decribe working in the club, being taken under the wing of others and what they had to say about your style.

You were very descriptive in your preferences for partners.  I guess my only trepidation at that point would be that people my not always see themselves as others see them, though I do think that you do cover a large cross section with that preference.

All in all, it's a much improved prfile, IMO.

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RE: What does it matter if.... - 2/25/2009 8:46:24 PM   
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RE: What does it matter if.... - 2/25/2009 11:55:05 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TrailerParkDom

Ok here is my questions: If your profile basically states you are looking for an experance Dom or Master who knows the lifestyle and likes to play and your just looking for Play then why does it matter What he does for a living, what kinda car he has, his home, if he is A model or hung? I'm an Average Joe with a belly, not a Model but dont think I'm a Dog eather. I have answer the Ads of women who Say they are looking for playmates for weekend meets. there profile says nothing about wanting live in or seriouse love life with the Dom. There just looking to play. I have over 7 years experance and even worked for a D/s BDSM club in my area. I use to Demo and teach.

So why is it important that I have a High end Job a new fancy car and a Big house??? Its not like the sub is going to be living with me or I'm going to be paying her bills, or what ever. Have things changed that much in this lifestlye that its getting like the swing life style where all that matter is how much $$ you got and how Many Inches a man has? I thought it was about a lot more? I thought it was about Control, or how well a Dom knew how to play? How ggod he was at his skill? I guess things on line a Lot Different then Real Life comunity?

Any subs have insite on this? Any help would be great so I can understand whats going on.


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RE: What does it matter if.... - 2/26/2009 2:10:45 AM   
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Yes, the name sucks.  I'm not a sub, but even if I was and was only looking to bottom once in a while, I doubt the first place I'd think of for the scene of My dreams would be a trailer park.  I'm a D type, but the first thing I thought of was noise in relation to how close the neighbors might be. 
 
I didn't take the time to read the profile.  Still, some of the things that came up in the thread made Me pause.  I'm surprised anyone would suggest that you eliminate telling the truth about the fact that you're married.  Not telling people that up front is a problem waiting to happen.  However, I would skip that part about the wife learning to top.  It makes a potential bottom think they are about to be the crash test dummy.
 
My question is, if you're any good at what you do, why aren't you doing it in the local community in the first place?  What I mean is, if your skill is enough to outweigh the trailer, the beer belly, and so on, why aren't you putting that forward away from the computer?  Then you'll find the people who think the skill is more important in the first place.  That is, if you have it.
 
 

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