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RE: DIAPERS....Fetish or Kinky?? - 1/6/2008 8:25:17 AM

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leatherist, I commend you for even answering! I feel so very strange in that I seemed to have missed the interest in most of the rest of forms of bondage, and gone straight for the heart of the matter then. If the dom doesn't have to be the one to clean things up, does that improve things any? Oh, and restricting the play to going #1 would help too I would think. Thoughts?

It varies,the humiliation aspect of having another person changing your diapers totally removes the last vestiges of face saving that one has. Especailly if they are a complete mess by the time you do it-or force them to beg for it. Personally, a bottom will know that I am going to keep any options I have open. When they get diapered, the control is mine. All of it.

How well they perform assignments will probably result in just how far I will force them to go.

Do a shitty job, suffer a shitty diaper-seems to have good results. Tones brats way the hell down too.

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RE: DIAPERS....Fetish or Kinky?? - 1/6/2008 8:44:37 AM

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Ok, before I get any form of hate mail… I truly believe that everyone is entitled to their own form of kink {unless it is with kids or animals, because that is just wrong}… Nonetheless, everyone and anyone who enjoys wearing diapers or forcing someone too wear them has that right and I would never disrespect a person for doing so…

However, for me and me alone I think it would be the utmost form of true humiliation {not the type of humiliation a person enjoys}, but real hard core, hard limit humiliation…

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RE: DIAPERS....Fetish or Kinky?? - 1/6/2008 8:45:39 AM

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Ok, before I get any form of hate mail… I truly believe that everyone is entitled to their own form of kink {unless it is with kids or animals, because that is just wrong}… Nonetheless, everyone and anyone who enjoys wearing diapers or forcing someone too wear them has that right and I would never disrespect a person for doing so…

However, for me and me alone I think it would be the utmost form of true humiliation {not the type of humiliation a person enjoys}, but real hard core, hard limit humiliation…

Which is exactly why some find it so attractive. It's hard core.

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RE: DIAPERS....Fetish or Kinky?? - 1/6/2008 8:49:46 AM

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Ok, before I get any form of hate mail… I truly believe that everyone is entitled to their own form of kink {unless it is with kids or animals, because that is just wrong}… Nonetheless, everyone and anyone who enjoys wearing diapers or forcing someone too wear them has that right and I would never disrespect a person for doing so…

However, for me and me alone I think it would be the utmost form of true humiliation {not the type of humiliation a person enjoys}, but real hard core, hard limit humiliation…

Which is exactly why some find it so attractive. It's hard core.

Ok i do not find it "hard core" as in hard core sex.... as i said i think it is humiliating and as where i would respect someone in public... i would be laughing my ass off at home... i for one would rather be released then be forced to do somthing so silly... {IN MY EYES, no hate mail please}....

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RE: DIAPERS....Fetish or Kinky?? - 1/6/2008 8:52:02 AM

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Shrugs....having someone calling me "master" would be silly to me. I'd think such a woman would be living in some odd fantasy world. To each thier own I guess.

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RE: DIAPERS....Fetish or Kinky?? - 1/6/2008 8:54:15 AM

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I myself am a diapered slave. I was at first diapered for the whole punishment/humiliation effect. I discovered that the feel of it against my skin was comforting. When my Owner discovered this she forced me to wear them 24/7 since I seemed to "like them so much". I became used to them but do not like sitting in one after urinating. I like to be permitted to change or to be changed. However defecation is DEFINITELY for the restroom NOT the diaper! It definitely is one of those almost "Taboo's" even in the BDSM Lifestyle. Not everyone understands it nor do I expect them to. For some it works, for some it is punishment, humiliation, it just depends on the person. Having said that, even if a slave is FORCED to wear them if they wished to remain in the relationship (as I was) it is still their decision if they wish to truly live a D/s life. You take the good with the bad. We all at times have to do things that we do not like. Though bringing pleasure to our Owner is the ultimate reward and what we submit for. Just my two cents.

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RE: DIAPERS....Fetish or Kinky?? - 1/6/2008 8:54:32 AM

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yep to each their own

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RE: DIAPERS....Fetish or Kinky?? - 1/6/2008 8:57:18 AM

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I myself am a diapered slave. I was at first diapered for the whole punishment/humiliation effect. I discovered that the feel of it against my skin was comforting. When my Owner discovered this she forced me to wear them 24/7 since I seemed to "like them so much". I became used to them but do not like sitting in one after urinating. I like to be permitted to change or to be changed. However defecation is DEFINITELY for the restroom NOT the diaper! It definitely is one of those almost "Taboo's" even in the BDSM Lifestyle. Not everyone understands it nor do I expect them to. For some it works, for some it is punishment, humiliation, it just depends on the person. Having said that, even if a slave is FORCED to wear them if they wished to remain in the relationship (as I was) it is still their decision if they wish to truly live a D/s life. You take the good with the bad. We all at times have to do things that we do not like. Though bringing pleasure to our Owner is the ultimate reward and what we submit for. Just my two cents.

So there are limits even in things like this. It's good to see that you both know and respect your personal boundaries.

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RE: DIAPERS....Fetish or Kinky?? - 1/6/2008 9:16:55 AM

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hard to get a good spanking going through those things too, I bet

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RE: DIAPERS....Fetish or Kinky?? - 1/6/2008 9:17:42 AM

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hard to get a good spanking going through those things too, I bet

Spank the thighs instead, stings like hell.

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RE: DIAPERS....Fetish or Kinky?? - 1/6/2008 9:24:16 AM

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If you can't really enjoy yourself without the use of diapers, it's a fetish.

For most people, diapers involve scat and scat is something most of us avoid. So of course there's little interest in diapers.

And for people who enjoy sex with their bdsm, then diapers rule that out which would ruin the scene for someone like me for whom this is very sexual.

I disagree on two counts:

I would have to say, from my own experience, that for most people diaper play has nothing to do with scat. As someone already mentioned, for adults who for any reason play with diapers, almost always it is only about urine.
I enjoy sex with my BDSM...like yourself and so many others; but I also enjoy watersports play with sex. Hell, without sex, too. LOL

Why on earth would anything as fun as pee-play exclude sex...diapers or no? Look at all the threads on peeing in the shower, or peeing outside...much less peeing in diapers. Of course this is naughty play and often a precursor to sex.

You're on the money with this statement though "If you can't really enjoy yourself without the use of diapers, it's a fetish."

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hard to get a good spanking going through those things too, I bet

Do you imagine a diapered partner would loose the ability to 'hold it' while playing? People wear leather and denim and all manner of clothing...what do you do with that stuff, when spanking?

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RE: DIAPERS....Fetish or Kinky?? - 1/6/2008 9:27:53 AM

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It pays to be eclectic. Variety is spicy.

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RE: DIAPERS....Fetish or Kinky?? - 1/6/2008 11:30:27 AM

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I have had 2 diapered slaves in the past.. one who was an actualy Abby ( Adult Baby ) She told me of her fetish ( for her it was a fetish.. no other type of play was interesting for her) later on in our realtionship. She literaily pulled her diapers out of the closet.. and showed me one night. I was shocked, but hey.. it was a kink I had never done anything with so what the heck. It was an interesting journey. The comforting and caring aspect of the Abby I liked.. and the bit of spanking and humiliation was good too. She was so obsessed with it that it drove me to break off the realtionship because it was not *my* kink.. but she wanted it 24/7, was pushy about it, and needy as hell. Plus at that point that she was really getting insistant I had just had a baby, and couldnt focus on her. Years later I came across my sweetie Jamie. We had lots of kinky strap on sex.. and I made him wet himself for me once.. that lead into all things in that area being a fetish of his.. and now diapers. ( I created a monster! *chuckles* ) He isnt as silly and pushy about it.. but it is by far his fave. thing. He looks cute in them, and it makes him very vunerable, and oh so submissive.

I dont mind clean up... and it has not involved Scat.. I am not into that at all.

Just as I think of handcuffs being for bad people since I used to be a K-9 officer.. I can see how someone who has to change big diapers in thier job would not find them in any way attractive or fun. ~ It is why I invested in leather restraints even though I even have prison style shackles. LOL

It is not for everyone.. and it is a edge play that most can not bear the humiliation. Wetting ones self in private is bad enough ~in public worse... wearing a rattling diaper.... that you can be forced to wet on a whim of your Dom/me... that usualy just blows thier minds. My boy loves it.

I would say in my two sub partners I have done this with it was a fetish of thiers.. and a kink I dont mind becuase of the mental and emotional aspects.

I still make Abby clothes for those into it in fact.

Gwyn

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RE: DIAPERS....Fetish or Kinky?? - 1/6/2008 12:00:34 PM

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... wearing a rattling diaper.... that you can be forced to wet on a whim of your Dom/me...

OK, I probably shouldn't ask, but what the heck is that? (Mind imagines something like the way livestock breeders/zoos electrically stimulate male animals to ejaculate into a container for the purposes of artificial insemination).

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RE: DIAPERS....Fetish or Kinky?? - 1/6/2008 12:16:08 PM

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I put a diaper on a male submissive friend about a year ago to humiliate him. To secure it, I wrapped the leg openings and waist with duct tape so he couldn't pull it off easily and to make sure it wouldn't leak. He was completely humilated but also erect the whole time. I had him wear the diaper the whole time he was cleaning my house. When it was time for him to go, I told him he was to keep the diaper on until he had to urinate or defacate and that he couldn't take it off until he'd done that in the diaper. He followed through on that, and it turned into a major fetish for him.

He started researching adult diapers and bought a few brands to find out which he likes best. He now wears them most evenings, putting them on when he gets home from work and sleeping in them. There are times we'll be out somewhere together in the evening or on a weekend and he'll stop for a moment, saying "One moment, I have to pee". I'm not usually aware when he's wearing a diaper, so when he says things like that, it's always very funny.

I think it's very interesting that it started out as something I did to humiliate him, but that he turned it into something he does for his own gratification. He's much more into it now than I'm ever likely to be, especially since I have no interest in changing them. He did ask for locking rubber panties (diaper covers) for Christmas, but there wasn't time to get them ordered and shipped so they'd arrive in time. I'm very curious how it's going to work out if I'm a keyholder for rubber panties instead of a chastity device. He can masturbate through the diapers but if they're locked on, he won't be able to remove them without destroying the panties. The permutations of kink/fetish, Ds and all the rest of what we do never get boring.

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RE: DIAPERS....Fetish or Kinky?? - 1/6/2008 2:11:46 PM

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Oh my...what fun! LOL I've never played with a boy and diapers...but, as seriously into watersports as I am, this could be lotsa fun! Saskia, loved your story! LOL "...wait, I have to pee..." Too funny.

While I'm not at all into age-play I would think even changing a wet diaper and putting lotion on would be great, and probably humiliating, fun.

Thank you all!
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RE: DIAPERS....Fetish or Kinky?? - 1/6/2008 2:36:11 PM

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She was so obsessed with it that it drove me to break off the realtionship because it was not *my* kink.. but she wanted it 24/7, was pushy about it, and needy as hell. Plus at that point that she was really getting insistant I had just had a baby, and couldnt focus on her.

That seems to be a problem with many into ABDL play. It is often the focus of their play, they want to be in full control of it, and they want it all the time, even to the point of obsession, as you said. There's an interesting article out there if you can manage to find it on google, from a psych's office detailing their experience the first time they had an AB as a patient. The patient ended up trying to twist the therapy into another way of having his play, and was constantly trying to control the direction of discussions. It's somewhat telling that when most people think of an AB, what they think of is someone immature, controlling and obsessed with that play.....and that actually is largely what the majority of ABs are like.

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Years later I came across my sweetie Jamie. We had lots of kinky strap on sex.. and I made him wet himself for me once.. that lead into all things in that area being a fetish of his.. and now diapers. ( I created a monster! *chuckles* ) He isnt as silly and pushy about it.. but it is by far his fave. thing. He looks cute in them, and it makes him very vunerable, and oh so submissive.

I dont mind clean up... and it has not involved Scat.. I am not into that at all.

That sounds like a much more healthy, and sweet relationship.

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I still make Abby clothes for those into it in fact.

I've heard that can actually pay quite well. Seems that those who chose to focus on that can just about use it as their main job. Power of ebay and all that.

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RE: DIAPERS....Fetish or Kinky?? - 1/6/2008 2:39:56 PM

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This is also why I tend to avoid AB women. It tends to become all about them..It's supposed to be all about me, dammit!

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RE: DIAPERS....Fetish or Kinky?? - 1/6/2008 2:52:12 PM

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I guess it's more fetishistic than kinky. But I tend to think of kinky as something dealing with sadistic shades. Forced use in a diaper (minus scat) I bet has widespread sadistic value for lots of people. May have some use, but access to the bum is just too valuable to be restricted permanently by a bladder sponge.

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RE: DIAPERS....Fetish or Kinky?? - 1/6/2008 2:54:15 PM

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I guess it's more fetishistic than kinky. But I tend to think of kinky as something dealing with sadistic shades. Forced use in a diaper (minus scat) I bet has widespread sadistic value for lots of people. May have some use, but access to the bum is just too valuable to be restricted permanently by a bladder sponge.

Naw, the dom can pull them down any time they want acess. It's not exactly a locking chastity belt.

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