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RE: The Story of O - 2/24/2009 7:34:19 PM   
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alice,

I saw the movie as an 18 year old when it came out way back in November 1975.  It had a very powerful effect on me.  Back then, there was no term for BDSM, and certainly no public acceptance or even awareness of the idea, so it was completely shocking to me --- BUT --- it resonated powerfully with me.  I knew that I had to incorporate elements of what I had seen in the movie into my life.  It has always seemed to me to be a very romantic love story.

About 6 months after I saw the movie I found the book and read most of it standing in the bookstore, partly because I was a penniless student, and partly because I was terrified to take it to the register.  I loved the book too, although it has a much less happy ending. 

I liked and felt I knew the main characters: O, Rene, Sir Stephen, Anne Marie. 

I liked the action of the plot:  O's initial training at Roissy, the development of her relationship with Sir Stephen, her further development as a slave at Anne Marie's, and her triumphal debut as a fully developed slave at the end of the book.  I was not happy with the two endings, as they did not seem to flow from the actions of the plot up to that point.  I also have always wondered about the development of O's relationship with Rene prior to going to Roissy.

I feel that the theme of the book, that it is possible to find fulfillment as a slave and to hate the notion of being free, has truth in it.  It is not a politically correct truth, but it is true, at least for some.

I enjoyed the author's style, although some aspects were difficult for me at the time.  I kept in mind that the book was originally written in French by a woman who was a member of the avant garde of French literature in the 1950's, and especially after I had read more widely it became easier to me.

Many of the posters in this thread said they felt the book was unrealistic.  I would be interested to hear what aspects they felt were unrealistic.  One woman commented that the book was unrealistic because O was not allowed to wear panties, and therefore must never have had a period.  The author doesn't mention O's periods, but then I can't think of many books that do.  And this book was written in the 50's.  Back then, I think the height of menstrual technology was the sanitary napkin, which as I recall, was kind of worn in loin-cloth fashion, and held in place by a separate belt.  I think you could wear panties over it, but I also think a woman would have had essentially the same protection without panties.

A couple of posters commented on O's name.  Long after the book was written, the anonymous author who used the pen name Pauline Reage revealed that her real name was Anne Desclos.  I read somewhere that she had said that O's name is Odile (a fairly common French name) and she just decided to call her O.  She said she had intended none of the orifice symbolism others have read into O's name.

Anyway, I loved the book, and it was very influential in shaping my life.


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RE: The Story of O - 2/24/2009 9:41:07 PM   
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I read the book on a flight to California.  What a disappointment.  Esoteric drivvle, lack of pragmatism as well as eroticism.  Silliness, not sexyness.  Blech! 
Far more sexy are the Kushiel's series by Jacqueline Carey and/or the Anita Blake series by Laurell K. Hamilton. 
Somewhere in the middle is Anne Rice's erotica. 
'The Story of O': oh, noooooooo! 
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RE: The Story of O - 2/24/2009 10:14:20 PM   
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i read it..and hated it. Very poor writing skills, which have always made me wish i could have permision to do a re~write on it myself.

And the ending, like so many others here, i also thought it was the worse part of the book. Upon finishing with reading it, i puzzled it over in my mind why the ending was that way, and to be honest, the impression i got was of a author who got tired and bored of her story, and after writing about every kinky aspect she cared to write about in the story, she came to a point where she was stuck, and didn't know how to finish. So, she tacked on a quicky ending, and voila.

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RE: The Story of O - 2/24/2009 11:01:31 PM   
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Can't speak to the book, but the movie sucked as anything but kinky humour.




Oh my golly wasn't it!.
I was howling with laughter in parts...though some of it was simply beautiful, most of it was shocking and not for any good reasons.

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RE: The Story of O - 2/24/2009 11:31:01 PM   
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I was searching Amazon for books by Pauline Reage and I didn't see any books called the Story of R. Do you have a link. I'd love to read it if I could find it.

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The Story of O is symbolic - 2/24/2009 11:44:23 PM   
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I read the book and thoroughly enjoyed it. I only read the one with the ending where she is wearing an owl mask and sits in the garden at the end. Someday I need to get the other copies with alternative endings.

I was a Literature major in college and used Tarot cards to do my story analysis. The universal symbolism of the cards are a great tool for studying literature. Symbolism of gardens, doors and things we wear all have major importance in explaining internal influences.

I know some people didn't like the book, but it's probably because they were only reading it as it appears with the action of the real-time story. There is symbolism explaining her internal changes and her change of social position. Some of the characters are actually reflections of her, not just separate characters.

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RE: The Story of O is symbolic - 2/25/2009 3:05:36 AM   
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Having read it in French the writing style ain't that bad. For sure Pauline Reage is not the greatest author I've ever read, but the available EN/US translation is certainly poor at best. Which is not surprising, as editors translating erotic texts usually don't hire the best translators around...
And for those who only saw the movie, just forget it as the story depicted has sooooo few in common with the original novel, it cannot even be taken in account. The two stories only have the main title and characters names in common.


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RE: The Story of O - 2/25/2009 3:46:13 AM   
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I was searching Amazon for books by Pauline Reage and I didn't see any books called the Story of R. Do you have a link. I'd love to read it if I could find it.

No links, sorry.
This was many years ago and I've since misplaced the book. If I can find it I'll let you know.

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RE: The Story of O - 2/25/2009 5:08:16 AM   
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I'd appreciate your assistance in finding it. I'm actually writing something now along those lines and would love to read something similar.

I'd also be interested in reading any other stories about male submissives. If there are any you'd recommend, it would also help.

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RE: The Story of O - 2/25/2009 9:51:15 AM   
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That book has totaly mystified me for years!
The reason being that durring my vanilla years I had given a copy to virtually every woman I had been with (they were also compleatly vanilla mind you) anyways, they loved it!  It just plane screwed em up. I have no idea why such a book makes such an incredible impact on woman. Its just crazy! I have read the book and for the most part it sucks but it has weird boundries. Somehow, woman are able to relate to it no matter what walk of life they seem to be from.

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RE: The Story of O - 2/25/2009 11:21:40 AM   
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FRS, I think they may have loved it because it's pure wank fodder ... especially from a vanilla point of view.  It's her being taken, used .. it hits basic fantasy points that some women hold deep inside but never express possibly because they've never been exposed to something like the story before. 

But those who have experienced some of D/s and BDSM want so much more - they understand the physical things that happened to her, but c'mon, what makes O tick?  That's why the book was so lacking for me.


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RE: The Story of O - 2/25/2009 12:18:52 PM   
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Hehe, I remember, I was mad as hell while reading this book. I couldn't believe, that any woman may be so...unreasonable and desperate. For me, O's actions didn't result from willingness to be a good slave, but simply from pure act of desperation. She was so determined to keep her Master near her, that she decided to do whatever it takes to achieve this. Was it love? I don't think so...at least, not very "healthy" kind of love...and quite one-sided XD

After all, it's just a book, writen erotic fantasy, not a real story. Sometimes, I'm even thinking, that author doesn't really care if her novel seems to be realistic or believable to the reader. In my copy of this book, there is a short note from author, that she was just writing down her own fantasies, and that's all "Story of O" is ment to be :-)



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RE: The Story of O - 2/25/2009 12:23:56 PM   
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I've always had a problem with people who take fiction and try to live their lives by it. Doesn't matter if it's something fairly literary like "O" or 27 shitty pulp novels by John Norman. You lose grip with reality, and you end up going down a road that just leads to alienation, and tragic results.

"Science fiction has trekkies.... BDSM has goreans. Both are an embarassment to their larger community." -anon.


Haha, I totally agree with you ^-^! And I love this quotation about trekkies, goreans and embarassment XD


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RE: The Story of O - 2/25/2009 12:24:23 PM   
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From what I understood it was a short story because one of her friends was into kink.  It was writen by some famouse author that did it more of a I like you jesture or something and the guy turned around and published it on her..... which it was never meant to be.  It was published without the real authors name in order to protect her from getting into trouble and loosing her fans as her normal writing had nothing to do with sex but the whole thing kind of blew up on her.

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RE: The Story of O - 2/25/2009 12:26:24 PM   
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Of course women could relate to it. It's about relationships. It's about a woman relating to different types of men. It's about how she feels inside. It's more about what she thinks as she goes through her experiences than the experience itself.

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RE: The Story of O - 2/26/2009 10:43:01 AM   
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I really enjoyed the book, there was so much symbolism and analogys used, yes the writing could at times me mundane but I think the author really captured the essence of submission. Of course we all dont agree with alot of what O went thru but it was her choosing do to so. I also think that to write a story like this in that era is fascinating as everything O edured was taboo.

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RE: The Story of O - 3/7/2009 6:18:57 AM   
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I read it as an adolescent and loved it. I reread it compulsively and I'm sure it helped warp me.

As an adult, I approach the book with trepidation, as I think the lack of psychological depth to O and the irrelevancy to my own experience of real-life BDSM would simply annoy me.

Still, I compulsively read threads on the topic!

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RE: The Story of O - 3/7/2009 6:42:31 AM   
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ORIGINAL: suhlut

Very poor writing skills, which have always made me wish i could have permision to do a re~write on it myself.


People need to remember that any copy of the book written is a translation.  The original was written in French, so there's going to be some disconnect anyway in the writing style most are used to.

I read it and was simultaneously drawn in and appalled by the story.  DB had me read it in the beginning of our relationship as I had never heard of it before.  He reminded me over and over that it was a work of fiction, and not something that was going to happen to me if I continued to be in a relationship with Him.

I actually liked the book very much, for the reasons that were mentioned previously by MarsBonfire's original post on this thread.  It was interesting and made me think, esp. as a brand-new to WIITWD girl, who was still on the extremely vanilla end of the kink scale.  I couldn't imagine how someone could give themselves over to some of the activities mentioned in the story.  Well, 6 years later, I have a better understanding of how what's "personally acceptable" progresses in BDSM and am grateful for at least having read a really interesting piece of fiction.

One day, I hope to get a copy of the book in its original french, and see if that reads any smoother.



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RE: The Story of O - 3/7/2009 7:03:06 AM   
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It does read smoother in french but it is still written in a less emotional style than most Americans are used to.

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RE: The Story of O - 3/7/2009 7:03:15 AM   
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Haha.  When I read it, I just wanted to slap the shit outta her.  In the version I read, it ended with her in the Owl Mask.  That was the best part!  And, didn't her "first" Master turn out to be gay?  Anyway, I got very little out of the book, except I can now spot those 'slaves' that read the book and take it waaaaayyy too much to heart. 

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