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RE: Ex-smokers ? - 2/22/2009 7:41:55 PM   
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Yes, I quit with a straw. It was cheap. Inhaled air.


No, the NJoy electronic cigarette, I mean.

I have a pretty good idea how the straw thingy works. 

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Why? Straws are cheap? Plus you can throw them away when they are too spit laden!



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RE: Ex-smokers ? - 2/22/2009 7:46:20 PM   
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It would seem near everyone I speak to who are ex smokers, will admit to still having the occasional craving for tobacco products many years later, in some cases twenty years later, who of the ex smokers here would agree with that, would they agree that despite their smoking days are gone, they still feel the occaional craving ?

Could it be that tobacco products are so addictive, that once their presence has been noted in the brain, they will always be missed when the user quits their use ?



I've quit 3 times in my life.  The first time was cold turkey and didn't smoke again for 13 years.  Second time I used group hypnosis and quit for only 4 months (though I do think for some people this would work well...especially if they had individual sessions with the hypnotist and follow-up sessions for a while.)  And the last time I quit I used a combination of the patch and cutting down gradually rather than cold turkey like the product recommends.  That was about 11 years ago.

The first time I quit I didn't do too bad for cravings except when I would go out to have a beer and play pool..THAT WAS TOUGH!  Finally the worst of the cravings did go away even at the bar.  The second time (hypnosis) I didn't really have any cravings to speak of for the full four months, but then I broke up with the non-smoker lady that I was dating.  You would have thought my car was on rails the way it tried to turn into every convenience store I passed so that I could get cigerettes, and I finally gave in.    The last time really has not been bad for cravings over all, but yes they are still there on occasion.

I really don't think it is the level of addictivity (is that even a word?) of tobacco that causes the cravings as it is the present circumstances....surroundings, smells, etc. that trigger memories of smoking days.  Smoking, itself,  was a comfort that I really did enjoy...I just didn't like what the result of that "comfort" did to the rest of my body.  Even today I get pangs of craving, but at least today the cost of cigarettes is a very good deterent to keep me from starting again.

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RE: Ex-smokers ? - 2/22/2009 7:58:47 PM   
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Njoy

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A plastic straw cut into a cigarette length that you can hold and inhale air through is way less costly.


You've tried them?

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Yes, I quit with a straw. It was cheap. Inhaled air.


I suppose you have to be mindful not to set the end of it on fire out of force of habit.


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RE: Ex-smokers ? - 2/22/2009 8:02:55 PM   
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Could it be that tobacco products are so addictive, that once their presence has been noted in the brain, they will always be missed when the user quits their use ?



I quit almost 30 years ago. I hate the smell of smoke; can't stand to be around it, won't spend time in the homes of smokers, don't even like being around people who smoke because of the stink that clings to their clothes. But nevertheless... every single time someone nearby fires one up, and the smell of that first puff of a freshly-lit cigarette hits my nostrils, all I can think of is how wonderful a cigarette would be right now. After 30 years. So I'd say the answer is probably yes.


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RE: Ex-smokers ? - 2/22/2009 8:09:32 PM   
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I hate the smell of smoke;



Tell me about it. Especially when the stench is on little kids who have no choice but to put up with smokers stinking out their own homes. It's disgusting and so sad  . 

I'm lucky: I was never addicted to smoking. I can have the occasional (very occasional) cigarette and not smoke for weeks, or months...

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RE: Ex-smokers ? - 2/22/2009 8:10:04 PM   
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Whatever methods you folks have or are using to quit, best of luck to you.

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RE: Ex-smokers ? - 2/22/2009 8:29:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		i quite smoking in Aug..so.. its been aprox 6 months for me.. so i cant really answer as to how things might be 20 odd years down the road..as far as cravings go.

i tried doing it cold turkey.. and had, like lucious.. used a cut straw to use to breath in clean air. Only problem.. is... it did nothing to convince me... once the nicotine withdrawal began... i chewed on the straws nervously.. till they were in shreds.
All while finding myself living in a haze.. a brain thinking of nothing more then having a ciggy.

So.. i lit up again and resumed smoking for TWO more days... thats when i recieved the package of free nicotine patches, that NY State offers those whom wish to quit. Slapped one of those on.. and they worked.. GREAT for me.
i do think though.. that if i hadnt WANTED to quit.. the patches would have done no good.

Sadly.. there are lasting effects.. of two fold.. i miss and still crave a ciggy, anytime i smell others smoke, or in my usual trigger moments.. BUT..well.. while on the patch.. i developed a love of them also.. i really loved the lucid dreaming the patches gave me. REALLY intense and believable dreams. i miss that dreaming.

So, i guess i became addicted to the patches also.. and when i realized that i was becoming addicted to them, for far different reasons.. all the while realizing i didnt really need to use up the whole reccomended dose period.. i stopped them cold turkey. And i was right.. i didnt need them. Not smoking since hasnt been a marked problem with the exception of when others smoke around me..and even thats not so bad.

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RE: Ex-smokers ? - 2/22/2009 8:47:30 PM   
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RE: Ex-smokers ? - 2/22/2009 8:52:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		So your dreams were affected by the nicotine in the patch?  That is new info to me.

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Sadly.. there are lasting effects.. of two fold.. i miss and still crave a ciggy, anytime i smell others smoke, or in my usual trigger moments.. BUT..well.. while on the patch.. i developed a love of them also.. i really loved the lucid dreaming the patches gave me. REALLY intense and believable dreams. i miss that dreaming.


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RE: Ex-smokers ? - 2/22/2009 8:57:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		I quit cold turkey 4 years ago. I do sometimes still get cravings but they are nothing like what I would get when I was a smoker or the first couple of weeks after I quit. Typically, I might see someone really enjoying a cigarette in a movie or something and briefly I will feel like I really want one. But, almost instantly I remember that smoker's cough or throat tickle I used to get and I'm turned off immediately. Plus I always hated the smell on clothes or in my hair, even when I was a smoker. I think it gets easier as time goes on.

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RE: Ex-smokers ? - 2/22/2009 9:03:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well your dreams are affected anytime you change something in your normal routine, especially chemically.  Whenever I've quit smoking, I've had vivid nightmares.  It's happened with the use of nicotine supplements, because that's still a change in the frequency and delivery of nicotine to my system. 

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RE: Ex-smokers ? - 2/22/2009 9:13:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		That makes sense but I have never used nicotine and even caffeine intake varies with me.  Watching certain films or reading certain types of books late at night can influence my dreams though.

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RE: Ex-smokers ? - 2/22/2009 9:18:11 PM   
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So your dreams were affected by the nicotine in the patch?  That is new info to me.

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Sadly.. there are lasting effects.. of two fold.. i miss and still crave a ciggy, anytime i smell others smoke, or in my usual trigger moments.. BUT..well.. while on the patch.. i developed a love of them also.. i really loved the lucid dreaming the patches gave me. REALLY intense and believable dreams. i miss that dreaming.



yes Vendavel.. my dreams were affected by the nicotine in the patches.

It even had it in the information packet that came with the patches, and reccomended that if it became to much of a problem to simply not wear the patch while sleeping. I figured that it must have been nightmares they were talking about, and while my dreaming became affected, it wasnt nightmares (other then one) that happened in my vivid dreaming, mine were mostly sexual, or average types of dreams, but which were much more vivid.. more colorful, more real, and much more convincing.
Since i enjoyed everyone of those dreams, with the exception to the one nightmare, i didn't bother to stop wearing them to bed.

Truth be told, when i recieved the patches, i opened up the kit, and i read the informational packets.. and mostly i just skimmed over the info, cause of my determination to use them for the help they would give in quitting. And so, the information in the packet about the vivid dreaming was mostly unabsorbed into my memory.

It took about 2 full days of wearing the patch before the vivid dreaming began, and i went through about 3 or 4 nights of the dreams, before wondering if i should look in the packet for info on any dream affects, and it was in the second reading, that i took note. Mostly i'd looked because while the dreams were GREAT...well.. i was waking up exausted.

Since i was getting near the end of the time period for that strength in patches, i continued wearing them as before, figuring when i switched to the next lower step, it would affect my dreams less...and i was right.. the vivid dreaming lessened, and i began waking up refreshed once more.

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RE: Ex-smokers ? - 2/22/2009 9:21:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		That is amazing and I wonder how many other people have had the same experiences.  Just being curious is all.  Congratulations on quitting!

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RE: Ex-smokers ? - 2/22/2009 9:24:35 PM   
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Smoking derives from a need to fulfill an oral fixation. Need I say more  ?


hehe kittinSol... i sure do love fullfilling my oral fixation... *grins


BUTTT... what does that say...about the way i CHEWED on my straws?

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RE: Ex-smokers ? - 2/22/2009 9:31:20 PM   
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I've tryed chewing, dipping, cigar smoking, the gum, the patch, and even my grandmother's remedy of chewing cloves upon the urge to smoke (smoke a cigarette after chewing cloves for the nastiest taste you've ever experienced.)  None of them worked for me.  I enjoy smoking, I really do.  I know it's bad for me, and I know others find it disgusting.  But it's my life, not your's.  I shouldn't be taxed disproportionately from the rest of the population.  I don't want to hear the arguments about absorption of medical costs, when we have to absorb the medical costs of drunks, pill poppers, bulimics, fat people, motorcycle riders, etc, etc. 


And there is your problem. You don't want to quit. And until you do, you won't.

I quit cold turkey. Me and my brother were supposed to quit together but he backed out. I gave my word that I would so I had no choice. Smoke irritates my nose now. But they are still trying to fuck smokers over. And when there are no more smokers to tax, I guess they will have to tax the non-smokers. I'm sure they will come up with a way to demonize the new pariahs. Separate and squeeze. Squeeze that tax money out of them.

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RE: Ex-smokers ? - 2/22/2009 9:32:59 PM   
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That is amazing and I wonder how many other people have had the same experiences.  Just being curious is all.  Congratulations on quitting!


well V.. this isnt the firstpost i have made about when i quit smoking, i wrote about it in a thread when i decided to quit smoking.. figuring if i told people on here, i'd be less likely to go back to smoking.

Anyways, like i was saying, i also wrote in that, and a few other threads about my experience with vivid dreaming, and several others here wrote back that they also were affected with vivid dreaming while using the patch.

Thanks..btw.. for the congrats...  *smiles

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RE: Ex-smokers ? - 2/22/2009 9:51:14 PM   
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I've tried all the traditional means to quit.  They dont work for me. I need Chantix or Welbutrin.

I used buproprion and Hip-gnosis . First couple day on the Wellbutrin I was bouncing-off-the-walls-like-a-Jack-Russell manic. Total insomnia the first night, in Puebla, Mexico. Killer view of the volcano, though. It was smoking away at that time. Next nigh in Oaxaca I had a bit of sleep, but I was up at 5 waking everyone else up  - "C'mon! Let's Go! Day's a wastin'!" Oh, they weren't happy. But it settled down. When I got back, I hd 2 hypnosis sessions, tapered, switched barnds, then woke up January 23, 1999 and said "Today's the day! Bye bye nasty smelly death plant!" and I haven't looked back. Had a drag the night of 9/11 whena smoker friend came over, but that's it. No pangs/cravings, never even think about tobacco. It's goooooone.

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RE: Ex-smokers ? - 2/23/2009 5:18:20 AM   
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So, despite my doc's warnings, I still try, but do it my way, no drugs, just severely reducing the amount I smoke, what they call prison rollies I smoke, perhaps hardly worth a puff, but it is something at least to sate my desire mentaly at least for a while. I also smoke rolling tobacco only, cigarettes instantly give me a headache, so I avoid those.

I only started smoking at age 30 and that because a desire to for the first time in my life to try pot, but it was not the pot that caught me, but the tobacco used. I have given up several times, gone cold turkey, the longest time being three years away, and that was whilst being married to a smoker, and in a house with smokers. In that situation, the smokers did'nt go outside to smoke, I did for the fresh air.

I was talking about it last night with a pal, a pal who himself keeps trying to quit and he on nasty meds than me, each time he is off for a week, then back on it, but at least he has cured himself of cigars, that is a plus. We discussed the fight against the plant, and realised once the brain has tasted it, it will always remember it, such is the permanence of the addiction and only those who give up and become vehemently anti smoking, will probably last out, as they have programmed themselves to be so vitriolic in their opposition to smoking, they being far worse than the people who have never smoked at all.

The patches I have tried, and the dreams are vivid and interesting, sometimes an alarm clock when it goes off becomes part of the dream and mutates into something else so one sleeps through. The cure for this is to remove the patch at night, but then come the morning in that time between times, the half asleep half awake stupour most of us experience, the mind struggles to remember smoking is no longer part of the morning wake up routine, the danger time.

But for me I don't think it is the nicotine I crave, but the action of smoking, the ritual of it all.


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RE: Ex-smokers ? - 2/23/2009 7:02:50 AM   
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But for me I don't think it is the nicotine I crave, but the action of smoking, the ritual of it all.



part of me still misses that, but after not smoking for 10+ years, the smell of smoke does make me sick.
I did use the cold turkey method, it succeed finally after many other attempts.  part of it was that I was pregnant and not willing to smoke with a UM in utero or in the house.

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