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MARIEL -> RE: This new guy.. (2/23/2009 1:39:56 PM)

So you cannot just meet outside and you have your own place? where is the harm in that. when so many western women travel alone to those countries. and even meet the locals. where is the difference. they too meet them outside. public.




sirsholly -> RE: This new guy.. (2/23/2009 1:43:28 PM)

i think you made up your mind to go and are looking for a cheerleading section here to cheer you on.

Sorry...i left my pom-poms in a kinky hotel in Atlanta (long story)




lovingpet -> RE: This new guy.. (2/23/2009 1:45:39 PM)

The difference is you are going for a specific purpose which you have clearly stated in communication with him.  Unfortunately, what you mean and what his culture means with regard to being a slave are two completely different things.  You really have no idea what you are getting yourself into.  You have made your decision and there is nothing anyone is going to say to convince you otherwise.  I, for one am done with this.

lovingpet




Lockit -> RE: This new guy.. (2/23/2009 1:47:43 PM)

Oh don't worry about it... he will be gone as soon as he can't get all the cam shots he wants.




thishereboi -> RE: This new guy.. (2/23/2009 1:56:20 PM)

Those were yours?




frazzle121 -> RE: This new guy.. (2/23/2009 1:57:08 PM)

To the OP

As a European, not just western female. Turkey or any other predominantly muslim country is not a place to visit on your own.  The culture, laws etc are not the same as ours.
You can be asked to sign a simple piece of paper, that under local law means you are married and have no rights. no ceremony or anything so you know whats happened.  He then has the right to remove your passport, freedom or any other such thing he requires. You think his female relatives will help you at that point, not a hope, even if they understand english.

Did you leave common sense at the door when you entered CM!!!


Not in reply to holly hit wrong button.

editted by the idiot whos typing ability seems to have left home.




sirsholly -> RE: This new guy.. (2/23/2009 1:59:04 PM)

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

Those were yours?
NO!! Not mine!!!You can't prove anything!!!


(did you happen to pick them up? They match my cheerleading uniform)




thishereboi -> RE: This new guy.. (2/23/2009 2:03:59 PM)

Sure did, but you have to come to Detroit to get them back.

[sm=alien.gif]




dreamerdreaming -> RE: This new guy.. (2/23/2009 2:16:48 PM)

OP, the summer is months away.

We're trying to give you a reality check before you waste these months on someone you don't really know.

You can never get to know what someone is really like in person, without spending a significant amount of time in their presence. If you get there this summer, and find out he's a jerk to you in person (or you just don't "click") you won't get this time back.

I stand by my original, brief post, on the first page of this thread. D/s is not an excuse to throw caution to the wind.

If he is so into you, let him prove it by coming to see you in your area, well before this summer arrives. Then, if you're a bad match in realtime, you'll have wasted much less time on each other.

By your track record, my guess is he'll be a thing of the past soon anyway. You are all over the place. You would be wise to be less defensive here, since we are trying to help you. Gather your thoughts, relax and breathe.

Take time.

If you are really in your 30's, you have a lot of growing up to do. Focus on gaining maturity and self-esteem, so that you will have something to offer a potential Dom in the future. Because right now, you are not in a position to offer a Dom much, IMHO. I am not trying to be mean- but immature, low-self esteem girls (which is how you're coming off) will attract mostly losers.
 
Take time to get to know yourself better, and to enjoy being single.
 
Right now, you don't come home after a hard day's work to an asshole who is waiting to ruin your day. Enjoy that. Being single, having the chance to enjoy and pamper yourself, should be a wonderful, peaceful time in your life.

Take this time to get to know that person who is waiting to be discovered, who, with the right time and effort invested, could be amazing and wonderful beyond all your dreams... 
 
You.




hlen5 -> RE: This new guy.. (2/23/2009 2:22:48 PM)

Mariel,

It's not about travelling on your own. Been there, done that.  I have not done so in a country where the culture is so stacked against a single woman.

I think Turkey is a more progressive  country than some in the region, but women are beaten and or killed in that part of the world if there is a SUGGESTION that said woman has besmirched the family honor. You are aware it is feasable you could be taken against your will, aren't you??

Yes that can happen even in the good ol' USA, but here I would know the language and society well enough to be more able to get help.

No one is telling you no one from a middle Eastern country can't be trusted, just wake up to the possibilities!!!  




Vendaval -> RE: This new guy.. (2/23/2009 2:28:16 PM)

You need to start looking for facts on the culture and country and customs or you can choose to stake your future on complete ignorance.
 
The U.S. State Dept Travel Advisory for Turkey states -

"SAFETY AND SECURITY: Terrorist bombings over the past five years – some causing significant numbers of casualties – have struck religious, government, government-owned, political, tourist and business targets in a number of locations in Turkey. These incidents show an increased willingness on the part of terrorists to attack Western targets.

A variety of leftist or Islamic terrorist groups have targeted U.S. and Western interests as well. Terrorists claiming association with al-Qa’ida were responsible for suicide bombings in Istanbul in 2003 that targeted Western interests. . The possibility of terrorist attacks, both transnational and indigenous, remains high. 

The Kurdistan Worker’s Party (PKK, also known as Kongra Gel) is one of the most active terrorist organizations in Turkey.  Over the last few decades, the PKK has been responsible for the deaths of more than 30,000 Turkish citizens. This terrorist group continues to target Turkish officials and various civilian facilities." 

http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1046.html


And watch the film and/or read the book, Not Without My Daughter.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_Without_My_Daughter


And you would do well to read this book, The New Legal Status of Women in Turkey.

http://www.wwhr.org/id_736






InTonguesslave -> RE: This new guy.. (2/23/2009 2:31:13 PM)

.... but it isnt even that.  she copied out a conversation she had with this guy, it got pulled by the admin folk.  this was only what, a day ago, two days tops, asking us what we thought of it.  and now she's planning to go there and meet the guy she wasnt sure about two days ago.

you know what mariel, do whatever you want, if you have a great time then great, if you dont maybe youll learn something you obviously didnt learn with the last guy who dumped you at an airport with no money - thats if youre still alive of course or not locked up in a disgusting brothel made to screw STD ridden scumbags.

its youre life, why do you have to keep dragging it out at us if you already know what you want to do and have no intention of taking the advice you asked for.

id like to say im done with this poster, but i know morbid fascination will bring me back. [&o]




InTonguesslave -> RE: This new guy.. (2/23/2009 2:38:18 PM)

ps:  it isnt about going on a happy vacation at a nice clean hotel of youre choice like normal travellers is it???? - youre meeting up with a man who has a fantasy about owning a slave and who just happens to live in a country where the slave trade is active and drug trafficking gets you executed. 

i think if you came across as a switched on lady of 37 we wouldnt be giving this advice so much.  but then a switched on lady of 37 wouldnt be this stupid





VAcontroldom -> RE: This new guy.. (2/23/2009 2:43:58 PM)

Whether you think she gets 10s for style points or 2s, I think Aileen pretty much always nails the main point and did here in a very early reply
(also no offense to the younger folks)




camille65 -> RE: This new guy.. (2/23/2009 2:46:41 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MARIEL

I am not going to just throw everything overboard, if that is what you think. And I havent even decided what I will do. But one things for sure, IF I do, I will plan the trip for myself, that means my own hotel room and everything. Ordinary vacation, so to speak. And IF I do, I havent thought it to be more than my actual vacation is.
And I am not just going to throw myself to him,either, IF I go. So that will say, relocate just like that? forget it. It doesnt matter what he says.
IF that ever would happen, I will know the guy for a very,very,very long time. AND also learn the lingo from home. Not down there. But I havent even thought about relocating down there. I just ask how good idea.


Well.

I am in the minority, I think if you plan your holiday in Turkey and happen to meet someone with whom you've chatted (if your trip is planned for summer then you have quite a few months to communicate with him more) for some meals, then go for it.

Don't have expectations beyond meeting this guy as someone you've chatted with, be careful as always. Make this trip about you and if you meet him keep it low key no matter what you are feeling. If you hit it off then have him visit you next and play on your own ground.

However be aware of the real dangers, the very very real dangers. Do your research and research him if you can.

I don't know if I would go to Turkey in this case, I would go to Turkey but not with the intent of meeting a man. Some places are dangerous and you have to decide upon the risk you want to take.

There are places I want to travel to, but will not do so because of the danger.

*waits for da flames*




kittinSol -> RE: This new guy.. (2/23/2009 6:42:28 PM)

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ORIGINAL: antipode

quote:

Hes invited me to Turkey this summe


Turkey is a high risk country for single women. Parts are civilized, parts less so. And as I assume you do not speak Turkish, you will have no way of ascertaining what's what. It is, for Europeans, a dirt cheap holiday destination, but it is a predominantly Muslim country, where you can get in trouble with these kinds of liaisons. Honour killing is still practiced widely, and an escort of my acquaintance was complaining that Turkish clients in Western Europe habitually remove their condom when they think the girl is not looking. Last but not least, for a Turkish guy to hook a Western woman is, more often than not, a trophy thing. Whether that's your cup of tea or not...



Such maddening generalisations [sm=banghead.gif]  ... OP, just remember that any person travelling alone ought to take certain precautions and be sensible about your safety - and read up real information, don't rely on hearsay, such as above [8|] .




bamagirl4u -> RE: This new guy.. (2/24/2009 4:40:00 AM)

As all the others have said...I vote for taking your time...slow down...way down!  Do not ever put yourself in a position that compromises your safety.  Why can't he come to you?? Just curious...good luck.




happypervert -> RE: This new guy.. (2/24/2009 8:27:00 AM)

After reading more of the OP's posts in this thread, I think she should forget about going to Turkey for a visit and instead plan on just moving there permanently to be with the master of her dreams. Just be sure he knows you're a "no limits" slave -- it makes the hot monkey sex even hotter!




stella41b -> RE: This new guy.. (2/24/2009 12:26:32 PM)

I think you're nuts to even consider such a proposal. I write on the basis of my own experience of forming international LDRs between the UK and Poland and I've travelled extensively through Eastern Europe all the way from Poland as far as the Iranian border with Armenia.

Oh don't get me wrong, I have got nothing against Turkey on the whole. As a Muslim country it's one of the more progressive and it's currently trying to get its act together to enter the European Union. In fact a few years ago I was offered a job at Istanbul University and I've even had two of my plays staged in Turkey.

However as with anywhere east of Berlin, no, east of the Vistula in Warsaw you're taking an incredible risk, especially if you have no knowledge of the language, culture or society of the country you are heading into. It doesn't matter what gender or age you are, it makes you vulnerable. I'm all for taking risks, but you know at least before taking a risk you should calculate it.

I did say 'on the whole'. Bear in mind that there's a lot of organized crime going on in Europe at the moment, and there are three main routes - smuggling routes - two of which pass through Turkey along which cannabis, drugs, heroin, tobacco, alcohol, guns, firearms, explosives, children and people are trafficked. This is a network which uses public transport, street markets and various areas in various towns and cities right throughout Europe.

There's been a case recently in the Polish media of a male dom who's been sentenced to the rest of his natural life in prison without parole or remission for the murder of nine female submissives over the past six years. Most of his victims came from sites like this and chatrooms and they were women travelling into the country from other countries such as Belarus, the Ukraine, and Moldavia.

Now the guy you're speaking with might be okay, bona fide and above board. Then again he might not. But even if he is, and we can assume this, you will also come into contact with others on your travels and they might not be quite as bona fide. Another consideration is if it works out, what are you going to be doing in Turkey? Where is he from in Turkey?

I'm a transgendered female, in a stable relationship with a Polish domme from the north eastern corner of Poland. She and I get on fine, we have a wonderful relationship, but there is no way I could live with her or even visit the small town she comes from. We would be lynched. I'm planning to travel with her to Poland in April, but I will remain in Warsaw.

My advice would be to meet in a neutral country if not in Denmark. I would suggest either Berlin in Germany or Warsaw in Poland. That way you would be meeting on equal terms in neutral territory in a hotel. This somewhat minimizes the risks.

ETA: I would only consider an international LDR with someone who really really rocked my world and turned my life upside down and my feelings inside out. You can't even be sure if this guy is for real or whether you can trust him. Something else worth considering.




persephonee -> RE: This new guy.. (2/24/2009 12:33:48 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

quote:

ORIGINAL: dreamerdreaming

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ORIGINAL: YoursMistress

Watch "Midnight Express" at least once before you book your trip.

yours



LOL!

True, dat.


Have you ever been to Turkey [8|] ?


i dont need to go, i saw the movie like 3 whole times...the boobie against the glass/masturbating scene really resonated...Are you suggesting that that was not a fair representation of the country as a whole??[:D]




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