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RE: Why do Americans need such excess? - 3/2/2009 3:35:05 PM   
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And I thought all you domly types just "force" fed us?



No chance.....I'm an English gentleman...."would you be kind enough to wear these knee pads, tilt your head slightly and open your mouth to a radius wide enough to accept a gift, before I carry you to the floor and gently place you onto your knees.........if it's not too much trouble....thanking you, kindly...."


I imagine a "yes, M'Lord" and a kurtsy is expected too.

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RE: Why do Americans need such excess? - 3/2/2009 3:39:23 PM   
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Lushy, bollocks are tender and force feeding, while it has it's charm, has it's drawbacks as well. I think NG has the right idea. Dipping them in garlic butter before serving is brilliant ! Hell, snails and all kinds of otherwise unpalatable critters are simply a delivery device for garlic butter to the French and other gastronomes.

You purists might want to order the sauce on the side, of course.



Add some caviar and lobster. Hell, I wont even hold my nose.


S'ok, lushy, I'll hold your nose for ya.


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RE: Why do Americans need such excess? - 3/2/2009 3:44:41 PM   
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And I thought all you domly types just "force" fed us?



No chance.....I'm an English gentleman...."would you be kind enough to wear these knee pads, tilt your head slightly and open your mouth to a radius wide enough to accept a gift, before I carry you to the floor and gently place you onto your knees.........if it's not too much trouble....thanking you, kindly...."


I imagine a "yes, M'Lord" and a kurtsy is expected too.


I'd settle for a......"well, I'd rather not, but times are hard at the moment so fuck it, why not eh"........a pragmatic blow job for a pragmatic people, which brings us nicely back to the OP.....god didn't put us on this earth to enjoy food and sex.....

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RE: Why do Americans need such excess? - 3/2/2009 3:45:18 PM   
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A post on the Heart Attack Grill and their Quad bypass burger with 2 pounds of beef and full fat cheddar got me wondering.I wanted to ask questions seperately. I do think about calories and reading the labels can sometimes deter me. I know each slice of cheddar is 11 grams of fat. I know that the kid size cheeseburger at Macdonalds is 12 grams of fat and so is the small fry. i try. Sometimes I say to hell with it.

Why are Americans like this? Why do restaurants give huge plates of food when they could probably make more money with less? Why do the french eat rich foods and are not fat? What do you think it is abut the American Mentality that makes us have such an obesity epidemic? Are there problems in other parts of europe and around the world? I know Japan with its high fish protien diet has lower heart incidence.


Actually, obesity is a rising problem in most of the world now (save for most of Africa and a certain few poor Asian nations). A few years ago, for the first time in human history, the world marked more overweight people on earth than skinny.

Mexico I believe is in danger of overtaking the United States as the number one nation on earth with the highest percentage of its population obese.

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RE: Why do Americans need such excess? - 3/2/2009 3:46:20 PM   
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Again, it's absolutely lovely to be talked about. I think  .

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RE: Why do Americans need such excess? - 3/2/2009 3:52:53 PM   
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Again, it's absolutely lovely to be talked about. I think  .



Fondly (talked about), Kittin.

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RE: Why do Americans need such excess? - 3/2/2009 3:54:33 PM   
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Fondly, but firmly.

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RE: Why do Americans need such excess? - 3/2/2009 4:04:28 PM   
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Fondly, but firmly.



and fairly, while suggesting that you may like to accompany us 'on the road' no one resorted to stripping you of your dignity......and in our imaginary evening, I ousted my dog from the number 2 spot in my home to make way for you.....

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RE: Why do Americans need such excess? - 3/2/2009 4:10:33 PM   
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Ever heard of Tournedos Rossini? It goes really well with a pint. Or three :-) .

Woof woof.

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RE: Why do Americans need such excess? - 3/2/2009 4:22:28 PM   
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Ever heard of Tournedos Rossini? It goes really well with a pint. Or three :-) .

Woof woof.



I hadn't, but I've had a sneaky google and it looks and sounds fantastic......does it come with chips? I'm putting myself upfront for a spot of cullinary re-education at your hands, Kittin.....

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RE: Why do Americans need such excess? - 3/2/2009 4:26:46 PM   
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Ah, the garlic sauce was just a ruse, you sneaky bastid.

I should have known kS was a meat and 'taters lass.

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RE: Why do Americans need such excess? - 3/2/2009 6:14:57 PM   
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And I thought all you domly types just "force" fed us?



No chance.....I'm an English gentleman...."would you be kind enough to wear these knee pads, tilt your head slightly and open your mouth to a radius wide enough to accept a gift, before I carry you to the floor and gently place you onto your knees.........if it's not too much trouble....thanking you, kindly...."


I imagine a "yes, M'Lord" and a kurtsy is expected too.


I'd settle for a......"well, I'd rather not, but times are hard at the moment so fuck it, why not eh"........a pragmatic blow job for a pragmatic people, which brings us nicely back to the OP.....god didn't put us on this earth to enjoy food and sex.....


mericans had more sex and less food, they may be way more satisfied.

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RE: Why do Americans need such excess? - 3/2/2009 7:56:23 PM   
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Why do the french eat rich foods and are not fat? What do you think it is abut the American Mentality that makes us have such an obesity epidemic?



I have a theory....and it's fantastic as per usual....

We, the English, have an obesity problem, too. Brace yourself....

The French are far too intellectual to eat too much food. They want to pontificate (they will kill you for an idea, too.....there's loads of 'em buried in Paris in some Rue De Commune? thing...and they're proud of it) and drink coffee. That's their tradition: ideas, violence associated with ideas, militant politics etc. I mean, in the hundreds of years that we've had a parlimentary democracy, they've had 3 revolutions. In England, intellectualism is viewed with suspicion; in France, it is held in high regard.

The point is this:

The French have big ideas, they're fought countless wars with their neighbours, suffered invasions, are partial to extreme politics, and tend to operate far above the level of gorging on food (they've had far greater concerns over the years).

The English, on the other hand, are a more peaceful, docile, less miltant, more orderly, more stable (haven't been invaded since 1066) people. Basically, life has been so certain and constant for the English over the centuries, that our main concern is whether or not the fridge is full with food and beer.

It's cultural. Stable and content societies gorge themselves (in the same way man and wife become content, then portly and grow old together as happy as pigs in shit).


Interesting you bring up the French. At community college a couple years back I interviewed the teacher or chef for the schools bakery and cooking department. He's traveled and eaten in France and I recall him stating that in France there is not a big cultural emphasis on eating everything on your plate like there is in the U.S. He thought the U.S. emphasis of eating everything on your plate and the increased size of servings had a lot to do with United Statesians bulging at the belt.

I do know that the old timers in the U.S. won't waist food. This is especially so with Black-Americans but also common among elderly White-Americans that lived through the Great Depression.

Personally I think the issue is less to do with consumption per se than its relation to sedentary lifestyle. Everyone is pro-Darwinian until it comes to things that question their comfort e.g. animals were and are meant to move and not sit behind a steering wheel and desk all day.

Years ago I read a history book on the building of the transcontinental railroad in the U.S. The labor that the Black-Americans, Chinese, Irish, Mormons, and former Civil War veterans put into completing the thing is amazing. One thing I recall with surprise is the amount of food they consumed - and I mean these men ate hardy. But given the labor they put in which burned calories fast, I'm sure few became obese, but many strong and built constitutionally well.

Old Black Bahia fishermen in Brazil, and old White Midwestern farmers have well defined, strong, muscular bodies shone brilliant under sweat and sun.

The French are also the people that have given us the athletic art form (and body culture philosophy) of Parkour. And outstanding form of exercise. I plan on one day taking it up myself. But that's more true to the Homo sapien sapien  being part of kingdom animal than moving from a car to a desk and sitting all day.

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RE: Why do Americans need such excess? - 3/2/2009 8:01:37 PM   
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My experience in France and French colonies is that a meal is something enjoyed over a relatively long period of time, and may be the sole entertainment for the evening. 



The real matter with the French and food is that they view food as an art form. It's very cultural: food is a national currency in France; words/books/newspapers are a national currency in England. Some nations don't place the same importance on food because their focus is elsewhere.


Add Spain to that list. According to Anthony Bourdain Spain has surpassed France as the greatest culinary place in the Western world.

Anthony Bourdain's "No Reservations" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27ayvxWcWvQ

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RE: Why do Americans need such excess? - 3/2/2009 8:13:59 PM   
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I think lots of things come into play here.

A couple of things the french do from my understanding is 1. they generally only eat one large heavy meal per day...


You should see the way the Colombians eat breakfast! I was surprised they eat so much for breakfast actually. I can't remember where in this Bourdain episode they show the massive breakfast though. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rNL9aNND_A

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RE: Why do Americans need such excess? - 3/2/2009 8:18:41 PM   
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Why are you so concerned over what other people do? If I had to list the greatest problems in the world today, somewhere along the line would be that people just won't mind their own damned business and let their neighbors, mind theirs.


I agree - to an extent. The cost of obesity per diabetes and other health related cost actually effects all Americans. Put it this way, the U.S. medical community has concluded that if the United States had to take care of obese people in full health costs, it would break the U.S. economy.

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RE: Why do Americans need such excess? - 3/2/2009 8:47:29 PM   
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Parkour was created in the poor suburbs of Paris, France and emphasizes courage, agility, grace and ability to negotiate obstacles with beautiful form.  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jquXcwooV6A    

This is how many Brazilians stay in shape.  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYpsHpsE6yo  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=We9NR-CaIgM  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Mf_PTB8juc    

This is how many in the United States stay in shape.  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TA-V6Nf5u0&feature=related  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVkYjp4mqnc&feature=related  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_Il2-705YM

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RE: Why do Americans need such excess? - 3/3/2009 5:26:40 AM   
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According to Anthony Bourdain



Never heard of him (until now, that is)  .

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