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VanessaChaland -> RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele (3/10/2009 5:08:38 AM)
What is the issue of whether or not Rush's fan base has a degree or not? A degree does not prove anything regarding intelligence, logic, reasoning skills or critical thinking. It only suggests that someone was able to plod through some courses that enabled them to get a piece of paper that states they are "qualified" for a particular job. I mean seriously, there is no shortage of people with degrees that are too stupid to figure out how to load a dishwasher, rake leaves and scrape ice from a car windshield. There are a plethora of people who dropped out of high school who make millions. We have been inundated the last 8 years with people with advanced degrees that have no spine, no backbone, no conscientious scruples, who never had an original thought, that are not paragons of virture, are of questionable moral lassitude that were/are hardcore GOP/Rush/Ditto head/fans/groupies. Many of whom are now in jail or soon will be. Whats your point? A cult follower is a cult follower is a cult follower. Moonies, Kool-Aid drinkers, any specific doctrine, star struck groupies of any band, poet, author, TV star, religious leader, pundit, whatever. Rush is one of the highest paid "mouths" in the world. So what? His opinions mean squat. :)

slaveboyforyou -> RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele (3/10/2009 5:26:47 AM)
quote: What is the issue of whether or not Rush's fan base has a degree or not? A degree does not prove anything regarding intelligence, logic, reasoning skills or critical thinking. It only suggests that someone was able to plod through some courses that enabled them to get a piece of paper that states they are "qualified" for a particular job. Well actually....a degree does improve your lifetime earnings on average. I often hear folks poo-poo college, and it's usually folks that never went. It's statistically a fact that folks with college degrees earn more in their lifetime than those without one. Yeah, they're are exceptions to every rule, but the rule remains: quote: The report titled "The Big Payoff: Educational Attainment and Synthetic Estimates of Work-Life Earnings" (.pdf) reveals that over an adult's working life, high school graduates can expect, on average, to earn $1.2 million; those with a bachelor's degree, $2.1 million; and people with a master's degree, $2.5 million. http://usgovinfo.about.com/library/weekly/aa072602a.htm When someone says to me that college graduates wasted their time, or they pull the "common sense" argument out of their hat, I just roll my eyes. I don't defend myself when I get a job over someone because of my education. You don't like it...tough shit. I'm proud of the fact that I took the time to obtain a degree. A university degree is not a vocational course. You may think that, but it's not. I did more than "plod through some courses." I worked and went to school; I earned my education. It's very obvious that having an education is more beneficial than not having one.

RacerJim -> RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele (3/10/2009 6:01:20 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Owner59 At least not till President Obama gets thousands and thousands of Americans killed or kills an economy, as bush has. Then one can call him whatever names their hearts desire and still maintain credibility. Let see if I get this one right .... According to my interpretation of these last two sentences, it was ok to call Bush insulting names because you disagreed with his policies and actions .... but it's not ok to call Obama by his actual name if you disagree with his policies and actions? Hypocrisy seems to know no bounds. Firm Demoncrap hypocrisy knows no bounds indeed! Let's see if I've got this one right... Barack Obama/Barack Hussein Obama has also used the name Barack Dunham, Barry Dunham, Barack Soretoro and Barry Soretoro at various times in his life. However, because POTUS candidate Barack Obama put all pertinent official records under lock and key, searching for the truth about now POTUS Barack Hussein Obama's real identity has been like researching a fictional character. We do, however, have this interesting piece of information. According to POTUS candidate Barack Obama's own web-site during the campaign, he was born on August 4, 1961, at the Kapiolani Medical Center in Honolulu, Hawaii, to Barack Obama, Sr., a Black Kenyan of Nyang’oma Kogelo, Siaya District, Kenya, and Ann Dunham, a White American from Wichita, Kansas. Kapiolani Medical Center didn't exist in 1961 AND according to Hawaiian law at the time his mother was too young (by three months) to convey U.S. citizenship status to him. NObama is a FRAUD

OrionTheWolf -> RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele (3/10/2009 6:17:29 AM)
You really should check your facts better: " Concerned about the welfare of Hawaii's mothers and their babies, Queen Kapi'olani opened the Kapi'olani Maternity Home in 1890. From its inception, the hospital has played a vital role in the health of Hawaii's women and children." http://www.kapiolani.org/women-and-children/about-us/default.aspx quote: ORIGINAL: RacerJim Kapiolani Medical Center didn't exist in 1961 AND according to Hawaiian law at the time his mother was too young (by three months) to convey U.S. citizenship status to him. NObama is a FRAUD

kittinSol -> RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele (3/10/2009 6:35:09 AM)
Fast reply: it was all about the money. "One of the missteps that had committee members and party strategists most concerned was when Steele seemed to dismiss Rush Limbaugh, the talk radio host. Limbaugh fired back, saying on his show that a significant number of his listeners would not contribute to the RNC. The Steele-Limbaugh controversy was parodied in a biting sketch on NBC’s “Saturday Night Live” this weekend, a skit of which many Republicans took note. The incident, said another prominent RNC member, would cost the party a significant amount of money from small-dollar contributors who listen to Limbaugh’s show. The RNC has counted on money from Limbaugh’s fans for decades. Republican strategists fret that fundraising will slow significantly under Steele." http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/-2009-03-09.html

kittinSol -> RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele (3/10/2009 6:44:19 AM)
Never ending story: Rush lashes back at Gingrich. What a class act [8D] . "I'm frankly getting tired of talking about Newt. I mean, it's a pointless exercise," Limbaugh said of Gingrich's dismissal of him on "Meet the Press." "I'm surprised by nothing when I'm dealing with people in the media who think they're in politics. ... They are fly-by-night operators, and most of them stand for nothing until they see a poll about what the American people want, and then they go out and try to say one way or another what the American people want while trying to falsely hold onto an ideology at the same time — and you can't count on them. You can't depend on them. They will sell you out; they will throw you overboard to save themselves, faster than anything. And they'll use you on their way up as often as they can at the same time." http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0309/Rush_whacks_Newt_He_wishes_they_were_running_TV_ads_against_him.html Looks to me like they're doing it to themselves [8\|] .

Owner59 -> RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele (3/10/2009 8:43:02 AM)
"I'm surprised by nothing when I'm dealing with people in the media who think they're in politics" <smirk> Now that,.....is funny.Considering Rush just described himself there.lol It`s going to be an "interesting" year.

TreasureKY -> RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele (3/10/2009 2:41:32 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kittinSol Never ending story: Rush lashes back at Gingrich. What a class act [8D] . "I'm frankly getting tired of talking about Newt. I mean, it's a pointless exercise," Limbaugh said of Gingrich's dismissal of him on "Meet the Press." "I'm surprised by nothing when I'm dealing with people in the media who think they're in politics. ... They are fly-by-night operators, and most of them stand for nothing until they see a poll about what the American people want, and then they go out and try to say one way or another what the American people want while trying to falsely hold onto an ideology at the same time — and you can't count on them. You can't depend on them. They will sell you out; they will throw you overboard to save themselves, faster than anything. And they'll use you on their way up as often as they can at the same time." http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0309/Rush_whacks_Newt_He_wishes_they_were_running_TV_ads_against_him.html Looks to me like they're doing it to themselves [8\|] . This is a prime example of why a few of the posters here request links to sources so further research can be easily accomplished. Fortunately, in this particular case I knew where to get the truth. Kitten... the quote you gave above was from a blog... and the author of that blog altered what was originally said by Rush. Here a link to the full transcript and here's the section that was misquoted... RUSH: Yeah. You know, I'm frankly getting tired of talking about Newt. I mean, it's a pointless exercise. CALLER: So were you surprised also that he would...? RUSH: No. Let me tell you something. I'm learning a lot here in the last three weeks. I'm surprised by nothing when I'm dealing with people in politics, absolutely nothing. CALLER: Really? RUSH: I'm surprised by nothing when I'm dealing with people in the media who think they're in politics. No, as has always been the case, Anna Lee, the strength and the courage, the energy that I get is from my audience. I wrote a book once, and one of the chapters is "My Success is Not Determined by Who Wins Elections," 'cause they come and go. They are fly-by-night operators, and most of them stand for nothing until they see a poll about what the American people want, and then they go out and try to say one way or another what the American people want while trying to falsely hold onto an ideology at the same time -- and you can't count on them. You can't depend on them. They will sell you out; they will throw you overboard to save themselves, faster than anything. And they'll use you on their way up as often as they can at the same time. So... If you bother to read this, you'll see that the Rush is talking about those who are elected. And while Newt isn't currently an elected anything, it's in his history and it appears he's looking to return to it in 2012.

SpinnerofTales -> RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele (3/10/2009 4:00:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: RacerJim Demoncrap hypocrisy knows no bounds indeed! NObama is a FRAUD Just three quick points that you may want to consider. The party currently in power is not the "Demoncrap" party, it's the Democratic Party The President of the United State's last name is not NObama, it's Obama and third after a while beating the "let me change the words around to show my scorn of everyone and everything I disagree with" really is not all that witty and certainly doesn't add much to a conversation.

DomKen -> RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele (3/10/2009 4:32:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: RacerJim according to Hawaiian law at the time his mother was too young (by three months) to convey U.S. citizenship status to him. NObama is a FRAUD I see the other lie is already dealt with so I'll just handle this one. Hawai'i became a state on August 29, 1959. Therefore in 1961 when President Obama was born Hawai'i was already a state and everyone born in any US state is automatically a US citizen. BTW the law you're misusing wasn't a Hawi'i law but a federal law governing citizenship of children born to US citizens while outside the USA. Just to show how absurd this whole controbersy is here's the birth announcement from the local paper, produced automatically by the paper from hospital data. http://file.sunshinepress.org:54445/obama-1961-birth-announcement-from-honolulu-advertiser.pdf President Obama is a natural born US citizen and meets the qualifications laid out in the Constitution for holding the office.

Aylee -> RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele (3/10/2009 4:45:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: RacerJim according to Hawaiian law at the time his mother was too young (by three months) to convey U.S. citizenship status to him. NObama is a FRAUD I see the other lie is already dealt with so I'll just handle this one. Hawai'i became a state on August 29, 1959. Therefore in 1961 when President Obama was born Hawai'i was already a state and everyone born in any US state is automatically a US citizen. BTW the law you're misusing wasn't a Hawi'i law but a federal law governing citizenship of children born to US citizens while outside the USA. Just to show how absurd this whole controbersy is here's the birth announcement from the local paper, produced automatically by the paper from hospital data. http://file.sunshinepress.org:54445/obama-1961-birth-announcement-from-honolulu-advertiser.pdf President Obama is a natural born US citizen and meets the qualifications laid out in the Constitution for holding the office. I find it interesting that the birth announcement does not list his father as "Sr." when it lists other fathers as "Sr." I wonder why that it.

MasterVirago -> RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele (3/10/2009 5:03:30 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Aylee I find it interesting that the birth announcement does not list his father as "Sr." when it lists other fathers as "Sr." I wonder why that it. http://file.sunshinepress.org:54445/obama-1961-birth-announcement-from-honolulu-advertiser.pdf I don't really know if it's the same situation. But when i worked in healthcare, If a man already had a son that was his 'jr.', then he would be listed as Sr. on birth certificates for any children following. But if the son born was to be the 'jr.', the father was listed using his legal name, but the son would be listed as jr. The father had to have the Sr. legally added to his name. I only know this because we were not able to chnage the name on the father's medical records until he did so. Some never had it legally changed and a warning would pop up when they called in, to verify it was the father or son we were talking to. But I have NO idea if this is a similiar situation.

Aylee -> RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele (3/10/2009 5:18:29 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MasterVirago But if the son born was to be the 'jr.', the father was listed using his legal name, but the son would be listed as jr. The father had to have the Sr. legally added to his name. I only know this because we were not able to chnage the name on the father's medical records until he did so. Some never had it legally changed and a warning would pop up when they called in, to verify it was the father or son we were talking to. But I have NO idea if this is a similiar situation. Thanks. I do know that he is not considered "Jr" but is instead titled, "II" (as in 'the second') And that could explain it as well.

Owner59 -> RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele (3/10/2009 6:26:36 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Aylee quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: RacerJim according to Hawaiian law at the time his mother was too young (by three months) to convey U.S. citizenship status to him. NObama is a FRAUD I see the other lie is already dealt with so I'll just handle this one. Hawai'i became a state on August 29, 1959. Therefore in 1961 when President Obama was born Hawai'i was already a state and everyone born in any US state is automatically a US citizen. BTW the law you're misusing wasn't a Hawi'i law but a federal law governing citizenship of children born to US citizens while outside the USA. Just to show how absurd this whole controbersy is here's the birth announcement from the local paper, produced automatically by the paper from hospital data. http://file.sunshinepress.org:54445/obama-1961-birth-announcement-from-honolulu-advertiser.pdf President Obama is a natural born US citizen and meets the qualifications laid out in the Constitution for holding the office. I find it interesting that the birth announcement does not list his father as "Sr." when it lists other fathers as "Sr." I wonder why that it. "I wonder why that it." Just to fuck with the paranoid....[:D] Make them lose sleep and girlfriends look weird...[:D]

MasterShake69 -> RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele (3/10/2009 7:06:13 PM)
you might know that Rush Limbaugh doesn’t have a degree. quote: ORIGINAL: VanessaChaland What is the issue of whether or not Rush's fan base has a degree or not? A degree does not prove anything regarding intelligence, logic, reasoning skills or critical thinking. It only suggests that someone was able to plod through some courses that enabled them to get a piece of paper that states they are "qualified" for a particular job. I mean seriously, there is no shortage of people with degrees that are too stupid to figure out how to load a dishwasher, rake leaves and scrape ice from a car windshield. There are a plethora of people who dropped out of high school who make millions. We have been inundated the last 8 years with people with advanced degrees that have no spine, no backbone, no conscientious scruples, who never had an original thought, that are not paragons of virture, are of questionable moral lassitude that were/are hardcore GOP/Rush/Ditto head/fans/groupies. Many of whom are now in jail or soon will be. Whats your point? A cult follower is a cult follower is a cult follower. Moonies, Kool-Aid drinkers, any specific doctrine, star struck groupies of any band, poet, author, TV star, religious leader, pundit, whatever. Rush is one of the highest paid "mouths" in the world. So what? His opinions mean squat. :)

TheHeretic -> RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele (3/10/2009 7:09:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SpinnerofTales Just three quick points that you may want to consider. The party currently in power is not the "Demoncrap" party, it's the Democratic Party The President of the United State's last name is not NObama, it's Obama and third after a while beating the "let me change the words around to show my scorn of everyone and everything I disagree with" really is not all that witty and certainly doesn't add much to a conversation. Nor, Spinner is the party recently out of power the Rethuglicans, Refucklinazis, or any of the other charming little concoctions dreamed up by the hate-mongers of the left. The President who left office was not a chimpanzee, no matter how many websites and on-air "journalists" might have made an opposing claim. If you don't like where the bar is set these days, Spinner, maybe you should have said something while it was on the way down. [;)]

MasterShake69 -> RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele (3/10/2009 7:11:10 PM)
didnt liberals give McCain grief saying he couldnt run for president because he wasnt born in the USA ;) what goes around comes around :) quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: RacerJim according to Hawaiian law at the time his mother was too young (by three months) to convey U.S. citizenship status to him. NObama is a FRAUD I see the other lie is already dealt with so I'll just handle this one. Hawai'i became a state on August 29, 1959. Therefore in 1961 when President Obama was born Hawai'i was already a state and everyone born in any US state is automatically a US citizen. BTW the law you're misusing wasn't a Hawi'i law but a federal law governing citizenship of children born to US citizens while outside the USA. Just to show how absurd this whole controbersy is here's the birth announcement from the local paper, produced automatically by the paper from hospital data. http://file.sunshinepress.org:54445/obama-1961-birth-announcement-from-honolulu-advertiser.pdf President Obama is a natural born US citizen and meets the qualifications laid out in the Constitution for holding the office.

kittinSol -> RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele (3/10/2009 7:54:29 PM)
Just wanted to pop by and say that it's hugely amusing to read about 'the hate mongers on the left 'on a thread dedicated to the largest, vilest, hate mongerer on the right :-) . All this in a strict spirit of balance and harmony, of course [;)] .

MasterShake69 -> RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele (3/10/2009 8:10:11 PM)
when hate mongers on the left eat there own ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXBXD2zizIY

Owner59 -> RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele (3/10/2009 9:22:30 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic quote: ORIGINAL: SpinnerofTales Just three quick points that you may want to consider. The party currently in power is not the "Demoncrap" party, it's the Democratic Party The President of the United State's last name is not NObama, it's Obama and third after a while beating the "let me change the words around to show my scorn of everyone and everything I disagree with" really is not all that witty and certainly doesn't add much to a conversation. Nor, Spinner is the party recently out of power the Rethuglicans, Refucklinazis, or any of the other charming little concoctions dreamed up by the hate-mongers of the left. The President who left office was not a chimpanzee, no matter how many websites and on-air "journalists" might have made an opposing claim. If you don't like where the bar is set these days, Spinner, maybe you should have said something while it was on the way down. [;)] Poor cons....[image]http://www.collarchat.com/micons/m17.gif[/image] It`s either [sm=bite.gif][sm=tantrum.gif] or it`s [sm=dunno.gif][sm=help.gif] or they`re [sm=fight.gif][sm=slappy.gif] beating each other up.

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